[HN Gopher] A Twitter engineer who created cartoons poking fun a...
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A Twitter engineer who created cartoons poking fun at his own
company was fired
Author : jmuk
Score : 48 points
Date : 2022-11-03 19:01 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| aaron695 wrote:
| comprev wrote:
| "Don't bite the hand which feeds you"
|
| It's not rocket science.
| pvaldes wrote:
| I think that the work of this employee was to bite this hand. A
| company can have good reasons to allow it internally as a
| social control measure.
|
| Kings used jesters as a way out to break tense moments and
| fights between their subjects; also to read the social
| undercurrents and detect hits against them.
|
| The jester was also uniquely allowed a free card pass to
| transgress and jump over the rules. The fool jumping over the
| rules and providing comical relief reduces the desire to the
| rest of employees to break the same rules. They can fantasize
| about doing it, without actually doing it or suffering
| consequences. They can be also educated about the consequences
| as a moral of the history.
|
| The cons of the job is that if the king is demoted, the king's
| personal buffon became useless, and first candidate to
| exemplary beheading or, in this case, being fired.
| sn0w_crash wrote:
| Publicly insulting the company you work for will lead to
| immediate termination almost anywhere.
|
| Not sure what the news is here.
| manv1 wrote:
| Do what you want, and your employer can do what they want.
|
| In some ideal dream world the management would just grin and move
| on. In another ideal dream world the employee would be part of
| the solution instead of taking potshots at management.
|
| In real life this person could be considered a toxic employee
| that sucks the life out of everyone. Fire them fast. If they
| don't like their environment they can find another one.
| realgeniushere wrote:
| Self test for whether you're full of it or not: if you think this
| was unjust, do you feel the same way about Google firing Damore?
| If not, why?
| fasthands9 wrote:
| >He wrote that after he tweeted a cartoon last year, Twitter HR
| asked him to take it down, along with one he had posted
| internally.
|
| I do not understand the perceived right some people think they
| have to publicly harm the entity that is paying them. A private
| company is paying you to make them money and you accepted the
| role because you thought it was the most money you could make. If
| they decide that you have gone out of their way to create
| PR/money problems for them then of course they will/should let
| you go.
| Barrin92 wrote:
| maybe he was emulating the chief twit, who continues to
| denigrate the company even after he bought it
|
| or are we already ad the mad king stage where everyone is
| forced to laugh when Elon posts a bad meme about twitter but if
| one of the peasants makes the same joke you get fed to the
| dragons?
| BeefWellington wrote:
| I worked at IBM years back. If there's one thing that binds
| current and former employees together it was the shared stitch
| & bitch about the company's way of doing things.
|
| That would frequently happen in large public slack channels and
| to my knowledge (first and second hand) nobody was ever
| punished for that kind of talk. However, that was internal,
| between employees. Often it was about frustrations with how the
| company was run, sometimes using satire.
|
| If that sort of thing happened in front of a client (which I
| never saw personally), I firmly believe that person would
| rightly be shown the door. It's one thing to complain about
| your company's problems internally, it's another to publish
| them.
| hoono wrote:
| Comments are full of bootlickers, as usual.
|
| Clearly you're all paid to worship the ground your CEO walks on.
| PicassoCTs wrote:
| If one got no skills, social ones may keep you afloat in any
| more complex hierarchical organization. And its part of the
| village psyche since the dawn of time. Having two plans, two
| bosses, two options or opinions, steers some deep dread
| instinctive fear of infighting and the tribe breaking apart in
| some.
|
| Its a retardation, but a understandable one, though those
| suffering from it, do subtract from whatever they are part.
| mrlonglong wrote:
| Looks bad for Musk, firing someone like that.
| jleyank wrote:
| This is to be expected. Elon wants to say whatever he wants. He
| wants his friends and associates to be able to say what they
| want. The rest of you all... No, do as you're told. Note that
| _he_ bought Twitter, not you.
| willcipriano wrote:
| So business as usual at Twitter then? I still recall the chorus
| of the "private platform" folks, you can even go into my
| comments, I warned them this would be the outcome.
| [deleted]
| kakali wrote:
| This is the same person who did comics at Google. Their work was
| a highlight during my time there. Google even used their comics
| for basic employee training.
|
| I'm surprised folks say that we can't be critical of own
| employer. Our employers are not lords or kings. We choose to work
| for them and can replace them.
| tssva wrote:
| > I'm surprised folks say that we can't be critical of own
| employer. Our employers are not lords or kings.
|
| No one is saying you can't be critical of your own employer.
| They are saying there are repercussions to being critical and
| loss of employment is a common one which should be expected.
|
| > We choose to work for them and can replace them.
|
| They choose to employ us and can replace us.
| chrisco255 wrote:
| > They choose to employ us and can replace us.
|
| It's really a mutual agreement, innit? The relative power in
| the situation is merely a supply / demand equation, for
| talent / jobs.
| simplotek wrote:
| > No one is saying you can't be critical of your own
| employer. They are saying there are repercussions to being
| critical and loss of employment is a common one which should
| be expected.
|
| Why do you feel that the expected outcome of being critical
| is being punished instead of addressing the root causes of
| these issues? I mean how do you expect problems to be pointed
| out and addressed?
| wildrhythms wrote:
| I think it was clear the person you're replying to is saying
| that the repercussions for being critical toward your
| employer is what makes it effectively 'not allowed'.
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