[HN Gopher] Psychedelics: A Personal Take (2021)
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Psychedelics: A Personal Take (2021)
Author : yamrzou
Score : 104 points
Date : 2022-11-02 13:11 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| cglan wrote:
| I'll play devils advocate and say mushrooms have not really
| helped me at all, and in many situations where I've been ~ stable
| ~ or mostly okay, they've dredged up a lot of feelings and
| emotions and traumas that I managed to tuck away very nicely,
| brought it all up to the surface and then proceeded to make me
| erratic and depressed and overly moody for months on end.
|
| I find that often times the extraordinary ability to be
| introspective on mushrooms is a detriment. I have the same issue
| with a lot of the push to be introspective lately. It keeps me in
| my head and away from properly enjoying things.
|
| I think mushrooms can be a good tool, and at worst a fun drug but
| they're not a cure all and they don't work for everyone.
| kinakomochidayo wrote:
| Huh interesting. If I was in the same position, I would've
| started talking to a therapist and start processing the past
| just so I won't have to deal with it later in the future.
| cglan wrote:
| sometimes I'd agree, but like I replied a bit lower, these
| memories only bother me with the extremely heightened
| emotions that mushrooms give me, not normally so it really
| doesn't feel like something I'm repressing. It already feels
| dealt with and in the past, it just doesn't need to be
| brought up. Sometimes things are in the past and they are
| perfectly good staying there
| hlk wrote:
| Being mindful and being introspective are two different things.
| Most people experience anxiety (including me) from being
| introspective since they fail to let go feelings after
| experiencing them. This is a skill that requires exercise and
| IMO psychedelics are helpful to change the game and let people
| exercise this.
| roflyear wrote:
| My goal for 2023 is to be less self aware, really! Too much
| self awareness...
| BurningFrog wrote:
| If it helps, I'm not aware of you at all!
| 09bjb wrote:
| Do you want to be less aware in general? Or spend less time
| ruminating about aspects of your own personality?
|
| I found the book "Self Awareness" by Red Hawk pretty helpful
| in disentangling and disambiguating some of this stuff.
| roflyear wrote:
| It would be good to think about stuff a little less. Do you
| mean "Self Observation" ?
| cglan wrote:
| It's funny but this is my goal too. I couldn't agree more
| roflyear wrote:
| Much love, buddy!
| gdss wrote:
| Had you practiced meditation for a reasonable period of time
| before having done the shrooms?
|
| Preparing the mind is crucial to using psychedelics responsibly
| and avoiding that the negative emotions that come up take over
| you
| slibhb wrote:
| I find comments like this irritating.
|
| If someone wants to say "I dropped acid and it helped me,"
| fine. People are allowed to share personal experiences,
| though it's a mistake to universalize them.
|
| But this "oh you didn't meditate enough" or whatever is such
| nonsense. It's a claim about these drugs and how they work
| that you have no grounds to make.
| joombaga wrote:
| It also ignores the potential negative side effects of
| meditation. It's not without its own risks.
| deurruti wrote:
| Get comfortable with being uncomfortable
| GameOfFrowns wrote:
| While your advice sounds totally reasonable, it's at the same
| time incredibly dismissive. In my opinion, it's not much
| different from "Have you tried being confident/not being
| depressive, bro?"
|
| If you need courage to face your demons but only facing those
| demons will give you the courage to do the thing in the first
| place, then how to solve that circular dependency?
| y-c-o-m-b wrote:
| I've only taken shrooms once and didn't change anything for me
| either psychologically. I feel like Salvia helped a little bit
| with enlightenment, but I had to take it semi-regularly. What
| did change was the onset of HPPD:
| https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hallucinogen_Persisting_Perception_D...
|
| I haven't taken any hallucinogens in over a decade, but my HPPD
| symptoms still persist to this day. I have visual snow
| syndrome, warping, palinopsia/tracers, and phosphenes. They're
| not debilitating, but extremely annoying and for a lot of
| people it sends them into suicidal ideation or panic.
|
| As with everything else, YMMV. You might be perfectly fine or
| you might be one of the rare ones like me that acquire
| unexpected side effects despite the fact that many people tout
| these drugs as having mild or temporary effects. Choose wisely.
| brnaftr361 wrote:
| I had HPPD for a minute when I was 19. I haven't replicated,
| but I went really hard into DHA enriched soy milk for a
| while. I don't know if there's anything there to really
| connect it, but my symptoms resolved. Phytoestrogens may have
| done something, and the DHA may have done something, perhaps
| a combination, or maybe the AA profile of the milk... Or
| maybe it was just rebound capacity thanks to my young age
| (admittedly the most probable explanation). This is despite
| continuing drug use.
|
| I also did a lot of meditation, and pretty extensive sessions
| (40-60m) of it for a few months.
|
| Some things to consider if you're interested.
| y-c-o-m-b wrote:
| I've taken DHA enriched soy milk, so unfortunately that
| didn't help. Based on the link I posted, there's two types
| of HPPD. Type 1 is temporary and recovers, type 2 is
| chronic. I have type 2. I haven't tried any of the
| prescription meds though as most doctors are unfamiliar
| with this condition and the one neuro-ophthalmologist (who
| was hands down the best doc ever) I saw is no longer in
| practice sadly.
| PragmaticPulp wrote:
| I think HPPD is going to get a lot more attention as
| psychedelics continue to grow in mainstream popularity. The
| significance of HPPD as a potential long-lasting side effect
| of psychedelic use has been downplayed a lot in the past, but
| I've been seeing more uptake of the topic in mainstream
| discussions.
|
| Andrew Callaghan of "ALL GAS NO BRAKES" suffers from HPPD and
| has started to discuss it openly:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUbod5t_2oM&t=1247s
|
| I think hearing HPPD stories from popular media figures like
| Callaghan can help seed healthy discussions about the risks
| of psychedelic use. In the past few years, the media has been
| way too optimistic about the potential positives of
| psychedelics while almost ignoring the risks and downsides.
| p0nce wrote:
| Have taken shrooms thrice, 16 years ago, and got HPPD right
| from the first time. Still have the visual snow, increased
| palinopsia, and "coloured dots" that last about 1 second,
| from time to time (those have decreased exponentially over
| the years). It's not really annoying at all in the end but
| obviously the visual system didn't recover. At the time the
| sun was thrice the size for me. Would have been great to have
| only those symptoms...
| FactoryReboot wrote:
| " I managed to tuck away very nicely" There is a fine line
| between compartmentalization and repression.
| cglan wrote:
| for sure, but these memories only bother me with the
| extremely heightened emotions that mushrooms give me, not
| normally so it really doesn't feel like something I'm
| repressing. It already feels dealt with and in the past, it
| just doesn't need to be brought up
| soulofmischief wrote:
| If the trauma surfaces and you have a negative reaction,
| it's likely the trauma could still be affecting your
| behavior and thus your life in some way.
|
| It's your decision if the pros outweigh the cons in your
| situation, but in my experience tackling trauma head-on in
| a safe environment has measurably improved my overall
| health.
| papascrubs wrote:
| TBH I prefer a macrodose. It's great as a tool if you want to
| be introspective and change. But I agree that microdosing, at
| least for me would drive me to be too introspective at times.
| Balance is good. I've found psychedelics more useful as a point
| in time tool than as a constant. Macro w/ a goal works better
| for me than a micro dose.
| riskneutral wrote:
| So it didn't do much for you. I know many people who report
| similar experiences.
|
| Like OP, for me personally it has profound effects on me and
| helps me improve and maintain my mental health.
|
| Everyone is different.
| aszantu wrote:
| took psychedelics a few times and learned something every time.
|
| Guided meditation can be bliss - when u want to sleep and the
| patterns don't go away, the meditation will carry you into the
| underbelly of your consciousness. The voice becomes light that
| sometimes shines like rays into the underwater forests or cave
| systems of the subconscious.
|
| I once did some hypnosis where you meet your inner guardian and
| explore the inside of your subconscious. You're allowed to ask 3
| questions, I wasn't prepared. Having experienced violence in my
| past I asked the wrong questions and the guardian threw me out.
| The trip ended there at the same moment and I felt miserable. I
| learned that you can't force answers.
|
| Whenever I took something I got headaches, these became more
| weird over time. My teeth were screaming for help, I asked them
| what they wanted and they told me they didn't want to be alone.
| Turns out that I got nerd neck and that's cutting off the oxygen
| to my face. Now I can feel it, my nose goes cold, headache
| starts, eyes feel weird, the inside of my mouth is cold. Haven't
| found the right diagnosis yet, but it likes me to drink warm
| beverages, sports, yoga, breathing exercises and cold water
| showers - can't do those when sober.
|
| I learned that my place is no fun or cozy, it's a wasteland when
| sober. Trying to make it better. No idea, I'd like to have some
| low budget low energy automated system that generates music,
| something to decorate time with.
|
| McDonald's Toilet can be the most calming and peaceful place on
| earth.
|
| Don't talk to conspiracy theorists or esoteric ppl when high.
|
| Have your dog around, they're wonderful guides.
|
| The hardware is boss, stop micro-managing.
|
| The list goes on and on... I do some art, but I don't know how to
| catch all this
| TEP_Kim_Il_Sung wrote:
| We are compound beings, made of many cells. It is nice to be
| able to talk to your teeth, I hope they are feeling better.
| lonetripper wrote:
| After being severely depressed for over a decade and wanting to
| die, seeing that the healthcare system had failed me and feeling
| utterly disconnected, rejected, unloved and anhedonic, I went to
| Amsterdam. After reading a lot about psychedelic experiences, it
| was the only thing left that I thought could give me a way out of
| my misery other than actual death.
|
| I bought shrooms, ate them alone in a room and soon felt the
| effects. First, some dizzyness and nausea, then, slowly, an
| increased brilliant feeling radiating from my stomach and soon
| encompassing my entire body. With it, a mental focus on small
| patterns, light projected through leaves of a tree outside into
| the room. For the first time that I could remember, actually
| feeling well inside my body, and feeling energetic, comfortable,
| not nervous. I looked at the wallpaper but my negative feelings
| about it were amplified a lot, I knew set and setting were
| important, so I dared to go outside into a park. For the first
| time that I could remember, I could smile. And someone smiled
| back. I sat down, and watched, and thought. For the first time
| that I could remember I felt connected to the world, in a way I
| died. I could see patterns if I wanted. Dare I say, I felt a bit
| human.
|
| It even seemed like people were there for me. This made me sad
| and contemplative, being aware of my past and present, but I
| could think about these things without extremely negative
| emotions disturbing my thoughts. I saw people in groups and for
| the first time _believed_ I could be part of it if I wanted.
|
| Unfortunately these feelings faded soon after the trip, my life
| riddled with even more rejection and pain. I took shrooms again,
| but the second time I knew what to expect, and it didn't feel
| very special. The saying "if you get the message, hang up the
| phone" made some sense, since I felt I already got it the first
| time.
|
| The third time, I took a bit of DMT with someone who was there
| for me in the right moment. It was the first time in my life I
| dared to be close with someone. Yet again, I was rejected, but it
| didn't matter.
|
| A few weeks ago I took LSD. I enjoyed some music and patterns.
| Enjoyment, but exhausting enjoyment. Maybe I haven't gotten the
| full message after all. Ultimately, I think these substances can
| show someone that life can be worth living, that happiness is
| possible again, and help in reconsidering ones relationship to
| ones own body, other people and the world. For me, they did not
| have significant permanent effects however. I do not recommend
| taking these substances alone, especially if you are in a
| mentally extreme condition.
| filoleg wrote:
| Not as dramatic, but shrooms helped me realize how fun dancing
| can be (like at clubs and concerts and such). And that
| realization stayed with me forever, even though I haven't done
| shrooms even once since then.
|
| Until that point, dancing for me was something that just you do
| socially because that's what people do, and (in my head) most
| people did it drunk because that was the only way it felt
| bearable to do.
|
| I know it wasn't some lifechanging discovery, but it definitely
| was one of those realizations that I thought i would never
| reach in my life (or that it was possible at all, i assumed it
| was something you either like or you don't, without much wiggle
| room for a change).
| say_it_as_it_is wrote:
| What isn't mentioned is the state of mind that Ava was in before
| tripping and whether any integration work was done after. You
| can't just take a heroic dose of shrooms and expect
| transformation. You need to psychologically prime yourself for
| the experience.
| willsmith72 wrote:
| I'm curious about the background. Is psilocybin legal? Prescribed
| by someone? In what country? Where would someone start?
| yboris wrote:
| It's easy to grow your own (see the "Uncle Ben's Tek" on
| Reddit, see link below).
|
| It is legal to purchase the spores and have them shipped across
| state lines in the US because the spores do not contain
| psilocybin. Somewhat fool-proof, takes very little space, can
| be done in under 2 months.
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/unclebens/comments/el1da3/part_1_ho...
| lake_vincent wrote:
| It is legal in the US state of Oregon, and I think maybe one or
| two others I can't recall. You start by finding a doctor who
| specializes in the therapeutic use of psychedelics, and giving
| them a call! Watch How to Change your Mind by Michael Pollan.
|
| Be safe, be smart, and consult a professional. I don't
| recommend doing it "street-style" where you buy it off the
| black market and take it at a rave :)
| dengxiaopeng wrote:
| Many other commenters have provided high-level background
| answering your question, but if you want to see how
| legalization/decriminalization is unfolding across the US, this
| is a detailed map:
| https://psychedelicalpha.com/data/psychedelic-laws
| hunter2_ wrote:
| Legality varies. For the US, see
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_decriminalization...
|
| But also, spores (which lack that chemical) are often legal, so
| if you want to avoid an illegal purchase, you could just get
| spores and grow your own.
| humbleguy wrote:
| It's legal-ish is San Francisco and Oakland.
| kaushikc wrote:
| My personal experience:
|
| Apologies in advance because it is really impossible to put it in
| words. When I consumed golden teachers the first time, I was
| physically in my room but the mental layer was lifted up and it
| flew up into the outer space, and as I had passed many far away
| galaxies I was there and eventually into a void. I saw some
| seriously scary creatures in the darkness of the void and there
| were millions around me, somehow from the deepest parts of my
| mind, what I perceived to be the scariest(I never told exactly
| what to anyone) had materialised in millions right in front of
| me. I was facing my worst fears a million trillion times
| amplified. Suddenly everything including me burst into smallest
| of particles so miniscule and it was just patterns and then I
| found my mental state inside my own blood stream feeling all the
| movement and rapid flows. Came out of there and I felt the
| suffering of death of this planet and fear of every person and
| every living creature that lived in the past until now combined
| on this planet at once right then. Sounds like my worst nightmare
| but throughout the journey there was a back voice guiding me to
| manage me and suggest me and everything I went through was almost
| consensual, like the depth was only offered to me when I
| consented to it and as if there was a friend to help me. There
| was a point I was getting auditory feedback and I was turning
| away from that depth and I did not consent to and so I didn't go
| into that part. When I was facing my fears the voice suggested to
| observe that they were actually harmless and they were just
| existing and simply doing their own thing. Something really deep
| inside of me was fixed. There is a lot more to the experience
| that I actually cannot put in words.
| brokenmachine wrote:
| This body holding me
|
| Reminds me of my own mortality
|
| Embrace this moment, remember
|
| We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion
| lee wrote:
| I LOVE listening to Tool while on psilocybin.
|
| This song especially gives me frisson even when I'm sober.
|
| There's something so beautiful about listening to the right
| music on psychedelics.
| par wrote:
| "I took psilocybin for the first time around 1.5 years ago. After
| that my life changed."
|
| Stopped reading right there. These over exaggerations and
| platitudes are really eye roll inducing.
| [deleted]
| martin1975 wrote:
| erowid.org... for many many more experiences with psychedelics
| and all other types of drugs. Make sure you read both the
| negative and positive experiences and try not to self-diagnose.
| AmpsterMan wrote:
| Just a small thing on my part, but LSD has helped me enjoy music
| much more in my daily life. Basically, listening to it while high
| helped me notice the patterns, rythms, lyrics, etc. much easier
| and I've been able to transfer that to my daily life.
| agnos wrote:
| I feel like all these articles about magical self-transformation
| through psychedelics are misleading and somewhat inaccurate. I
| would have liked to see more about the actual psychedelic
| experience itself rather than the aftermath. As an occasional
| "field researcher" of psychedelics, I'm skeptical of these
| magical claims like "curing" depression with mushrooms or
| discovering love after taking LSD without saying much about what
| actually changed in their thought processes or how that happened.
| Maybe I've yet to have that trip that will make me understand the
| magic, but I haven't read many accounts of the actual psychedelic
| experience that have been particularly compelling.
|
| Psychedelics do seem to break down lifelong mental models and
| thus increase your level of self-awareness but I've personally
| never been able to integrate these trip experiences to anything
| meaningful in my daily life. The insights I've gained from
| psychedelics have had little to no impact on my overall mental
| health, emotional regulation, interpersonal relationships, etc.
| There seems to be a large gap between the psychedelic state of
| mind and the "ego" mind that we must embrace in daily life. Sure,
| I've had interesting trips that made me question the nature of
| consciousness and reality. I've alos had trips where I broke down
| all my mental models and experienced pure randomness/chaos, which
| I believe is just somewhat incompatible with my Earthly
| existence, which makes integration difficult.
|
| This "self-awareness" is a common theme I've experienced in trips
| is just the pure randomness of reality/existence. There is no
| "reason" why anything happens. There's no reason you are you, and
| there's no reason to be anything different. I think if you truly
| explore self-awareness, you will reach this point. You are a
| configuration that has no inherent "reason" to be that particular
| configuration. You can hope to transform into a different
| configuration, but there's no compelling reason to be anything
| else because at the core, everything is arbitrary. The best you
| come out with is a sense of disillusionment or depersonalization.
| Maybe you can overcome this point in the journey and reach
| "enlightenment". I've yet to experience what's past this, but
| maybe someone else can shed some light on that.
|
| Actually, I wonder if more self-awareness can be a bad thing for
| some people, and if that's what it comes down to. Often times
| when I feel the most self aware, I'm the most lost in my own head
| and disconnected from reality and other people. This isn't
| objectively a bad thing, but I don't see how it leads to
| realizations about love and connectedness, which I think are the
| real antidotes to things like depression and emptiness.
| brotchie wrote:
| I'm in the same boat as you: how exactly did the psychedelic
| experience affect a long lasting change. Here's my story of how
| psilocybin cured my existential depression. I had other
| insights during the trip, but this is my after-the-fact
| reasoning about why the trip was effective at alleviating
| depression.
|
| I've often struggled with existential depression: Along the
| lines of "The sun is going to explode in a few billion years,
| what's the point in doing anything today?" This didn't really
| affect my day-to-day life that much, but I often struggled to
| be motivated because of this overhanging existential "what's
| the point?"
|
| Dosage: 5g dried golden teachers, ground with burr grinder,
| soaked in lemon juice, and then consumed in one go.
|
| Felt like nothing was happening all that much for an hour, but
| then a gradual come-up of an altered state, euphoria. My senses
| started merging: words had taste, sounds had color, etc. then I
| felt I was losing touch with reality (later realized this was
| my ego fighting to hold on).
|
| Things that I thought were intrinsic to the human conscious
| experience started to break down: I lost an understanding of
| the concept of time (looking at my bedside clock was
| nonsensical), as the trip became more aggressive, I actually
| started losing the concept of 4D space-time. There was no
| differentiation between having my eyes open or closed. I felt
| like I had been blasted into a high dimensional space of many
| possible realities.
|
| My brain couldn't make sense of this new experience. This was
| actually REALLY scary, not in a bad trip sense, but in a "holy
| shit, I'm kind of lost in this incomprehensible set of
| realities and have no way of navigating back home." I
| distinctly had the feeling like I was a god-like being that was
| literally constructing reality with my thoughts.
|
| Ultimately I remember just completely relaxing into it and
| finding a crazy inner peace: white light, no sense of personal
| identity, no sense of time.
|
| As I was coming out of the trip, I started to "rediscover"
| things: Oh! Time is just the relative ordering of events. Oh,
| THIS particular reality I'm in has 3 spatial dimensions.
|
| Out of all the infinite, confusing, scary possibilities of
| existence, I returned to my life here on earth in this body.
| This made me feel so so grateful for THIS existence, in THIS
| body, in THIS reality. Almost felt like I'd again found the
| oasis of our reality in the desert of all possible realities.
| The gratefulness I felt after being on some metaphysical trip
| that had felt like a lifetime and being able to return to the
| familiar made me appreciate how wonderful existence is and how
| great it is to inhabit this reality.
|
| tl;dr; Being blasted out into a scary confusing set of all
| possible realities and somehow finding a path back to this
| familiar reality made me really appreciate what I'd previously
| taken for granted.
| [deleted]
| mistermann wrote:
| There ability to achieve a mental state of unknown can be
| useful for contemplating such questions in my experience.
|
| These have been helpful to me:
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ineffability
|
| https://iep.utm.edu/gettier/
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na%C3%AFve_realism_(psycholo...
| RomanPushkin wrote:
| One guy was supposed to write a comment here, but he had a really
| bad trip that flipped up his mind, so we'll never know about his
| opinion. Everyone else had a more or less positive "experience".
| [deleted]
| joegaebel wrote:
| I'm surprised to see the lack of support in the comments. In my
| take, this article was very well written and goes a long way to
| describe the refreshing and enlivening aftermath of a peak
| experience with Psilocybin. It also mirrors the experience of the
| research subjects at Johns Hopkins.
|
| One study, conducted on terminally ill cancer patients, found
| that most of them rated it as one of the most important
| experiences of their lives [1], rating it alongside the birth of
| their children, their wedding day, etc. Additionally, the
| depression easing effects were shown to persist up to a year by
| this study.
|
| I wouldn't be surprised if experiencing one of the most
| important, enliving, and connective experiences of your life
| wouldn't go on to reduce depression and anxiety for the rest of
| your life.
|
| [1]
| https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/hallucin...
| rileyphone wrote:
| This mirrors my experience with shrooms and depression,
| specifically the quote:
|
| > I felt like I was exhaling after a life spent holding my
| breath.
|
| Splendid stuff you can grow yourself for <$100, but it's also
| exciting to watch it become more legal in places and easier to
| access. Seems that we're finally recovering from the exuberance
| of the 60s.
| roody15 wrote:
| Disclaimer just my take:
|
| I wonder if the human mind is like a antenna or receiver of
| sorts. Outside of our physical world or perhaps at a distance so
| great may exists some greater entities.
|
| Gods if you will, or perhaps spiritual entities.
|
| I wonder if in certain states of dreaming or on certain
| substances our brain/receiver is more receptive to these
| "signals".
|
| Perhaps bad trips ... occur since you are in a receptive state
| "drugged lsd, etc" and a negative spiritual entity is able to
| access in this state.
|
| Perhaps in a good trip ... you are able to increase your signal
| reception to a greater will, a more benevolent, a spiritual
| entity that is more positive, creative, loving, forgiving, etc.
|
| When you are cut off from these forces or the signal is
| diminished perhaps ... depression sets in... no sense of
| purpose.. etc.
| potsandpans wrote:
| Would not expect to find a post like this on here. My totally
| unqualified intuition puts me somewhat in the panpsychist camp,
| that I'd crudely outline as "the brain does not produce
| consciousness but is more of an antenna that receives it."
|
| While I dont ascribe any spirituality to these "entities" as
| you describe, I do wonder if they exist in some physical form.
| If they do we'll no doubt find and classify them eventually.
| FactoryReboot wrote:
| Reminds me a bit of the old modest mouse song stars are
| projectors. That song had a related idea that our consciousness
| is in the cosmos and beamed down to us. Drugs could be
| interrupting that beam or something like you said. It's an
| interesting thought.
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| humbleguy wrote:
| I have been microdosing LSD for about 4 months now regularly with
| great success and it's now my go-to for focus and mood
| improvement.
| GameOfFrowns wrote:
| What's your regimen and how do you measure the effectiveness in
| an objective manner? I tried microdosing LSD for a few weeks
| and even at the smallest dose 10ug I felt like every dosing day
| was a lost day productivity-wise as I became even more
| unfocused than usual.
| humbleguy wrote:
| I drop a stamp into 10ml of vodka and take 1ml every 3rd day.
| I don't have an objective way of measuring an effectiveness
| of it, of course. However, I do feel that when I need to
| focus I can focus much easier. I don't feel jitters and the
| next day I also feel elevated mood and overall just more
| positive.
| fieryskiff11 wrote:
| ogsalmanxxx wrote:
| xD
| par wrote:
| > so... i've been on acid for about 100 days now
|
| uhhh.... tth_tth
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