[HN Gopher] D-Wave Launches in AWS Marketplace
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       D-Wave Launches in AWS Marketplace
        
       Author : donutloop
       Score  : 66 points
       Date   : 2022-10-30 11:13 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | civilized wrote:
       | Seems like they're shrugging off the question of whether quantum
       | computing has any advantages over classical, and going straight
       | to "use it or you're missing out".
       | 
       | As far as I know, there's still no convincing evidence that
       | today's quantum computers do _anything_ better than classical
       | computers. For example, Google made a very narrow claim of
       | quantum superiority and even this was undermined by subsequent
       | research [1].
       | 
       | [1] https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/googles-quantum-
       | supremacy-...
        
         | s1dev wrote:
         | It is worth noting that all known classical algorithms to solve
         | this problem scale exponentially with the problem size, and
         | fundamentally there is no reason why putting 60 or 70 qubits in
         | the fridge is particularly more difficult than 53. The point is
         | that while classical algorithm advances can take off orders of
         | magnitude off the runtime, this has to be done _every_ time
         | there is a small increase in the size of the quantum computing
         | device in order to kill a supremacy claim.
         | 
         | (To clarify, I personally think optimization is not a remotely
         | near-term application)
        
         | williamscales wrote:
         | Furthermore, I believe there's some question as to whether the
         | kind of computer that DWave has made is even a true quantum
         | computer.
        
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       | Kalanos wrote:
       | Is this different than what has been available through Braket?
       | https://aws.amazon.com/braket/quantum-computers/dwave/
        
         | barbazoo wrote:
         | > Leap will be available in AWS Marketplace soon, and Amazon
         | Braket customers will be directed to the AWS Marketplace to
         | access the D-Wave system.
        
       | ramesh31 wrote:
       | So is quantum computing a real thing?
        
         | peterth3 wrote:
         | D-Wave is not a universal quantum computer. It's a quantum
         | annealer [0].
         | 
         | [0] https://www.quora.com/Why-is-D-Waves-quantum-computer-not-
         | co...
        
         | klyrs wrote:
         | Of course it is! But, can it catch up to the 60-year head start
         | that classical computing enjoys? That remains to be seen.
        
         | powera wrote:
         | There is no known reason why it is theoretically impossible.
         | 
         | However, despite many people claiming otherwise, there are
         | currently no situations (other than contrived benchmarks) where
         | a quantum computer is better than a digital computer.
        
       | theGnuMe wrote:
       | What can I do with it?
        
         | marricks wrote:
         | Isn't it, anything but slower and more costly than anything you
         | could do with a convention computer?
         | 
         | Oh wait, it's just a very small subset of problems, nvm.
        
         | Y_Y wrote:
         | A fine question!
         | 
         | > Our solvers include the binary quadratic model solver, the
         | discrete quadratic model solver, and the constrained quadratic
         | model solver.
         | 
         | Apparently this include graph colouring and travelling salesman
         | problems, as well as things expressible in
         | https://github.com/MQLib/MQLib .
        
           | throwntoday wrote:
           | What was the time complexity of the solution to salesman
           | problem?
           | 
           | Or are quantum algorithms not measured in the same way?
        
             | conformist wrote:
             | The problem is np hard and d-wave runs quantum annealers,
             | so the ultimate benchmark is likely wall time.
        
           | binarymax wrote:
           | How far off is the tech to be able to run Shor's algorithm?
        
             | xyzzyz wrote:
             | It is not general purpose quantum computer, so it will not
             | run Shor algorithm.
        
         | Q6T46nT668w6i3m wrote:
         | Constrained optimization
        
         | pkrumins wrote:
         | You can find the prime factors of the number 15.
        
       | remram wrote:
       | Are there a lot of entries in the AWS marketplace that you can't
       | run on AWS, but instead access remotely? I thought it was mostly
       | things like AMIs (Windows, etc) or managed services you run on
       | top of EC2 VMs (databases systems, etc). But this is actually
       | hardware operated by a third party...
        
         | electroly wrote:
         | I'm not sure how this deal works behind the scenes, but AWS
         | already rented access to D-Wave devices previously via AWS
         | Braket. I wonder if they're continuing to operate the hardware
         | for this. I agree it would be an odd choice to put this in the
         | AWS Marketplace if they're not.
        
           | cavisne wrote:
           | The actual quantum computers don't live inside AWS
           | datacenters
           | 
           | https://aws.amazon.com/braket/faqs/ (under security)
           | 
           | Most of AWS Braqet is orchestrating emulators (ie fake
           | quantum computers running on EC2).
        
         | everfrustrated wrote:
         | Various SaaS vendors are available via the AWS marketplace,
         | including ones that aren't running on AWS.
         | 
         | For example we pay for Datadog (using their EU region which
         | happens to be on GCP) via our AWS bill. As we have 30 day
         | invoicing with AWS this makes it all very convenient.
        
       | raziel2701 wrote:
       | At this point in time there's no one that has enough logical
       | qubits to do a useful quantum computation. It might be a few
       | decades before someone figures out how to scale up the number of
       | useful qubits. In the meantime a bunch of QC start ups will pop
       | in and out of existence like particles. Very tough field, but
       | that's exactly where I want to see more resources allocated:
       | towards solving difficult problems.
        
         | mrfox321 wrote:
         | Your comment is off topic.
         | 
         | D wave is not a quantum computer. It is a specialized hardware
         | for solving certain classes of optimization problems using
         | quantum annealing.
        
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