[HN Gopher] Ancient lineage of small fungi upends ideas about it...
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       Ancient lineage of small fungi upends ideas about its genetic
       relationships
        
       Author : wglb
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2022-10-27 01:27 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | jeffhwang wrote:
       | One of the joys of the last 50 years of biology is learning how
       | evolutionary relationships we long took for granted need
       | revision.
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       | First it was confirmation about Margulis' endosymbiotic origin of
       | mitochondria and chloroplasts. Then the discovery and
       | classification of archaea. Now it's upending our understanding of
       | fungal phylogenetics! For people interested in biology, it's a
       | wonderful time! (Well except for massive species die-off, loss of
       | biodiversity, destruction of ecosystems, etc...)
        
         | beambot wrote:
         | > First it was confirmation about Margulis' endosymbiotic
         | origin of mitochondria and chloroplasts. Then the discovery and
         | classification of archaea.
         | 
         | Sounds neat. Can you elaborate on these two topics or provide
         | links digestible for a layperson?
        
           | adrian_b wrote:
           | Regarding the "confirmation about Margulis' endosymbiotic
           | origin of mitochondria and chloroplasts", I assume that OP
           | has meant that after this event (her paper was published in
           | 1967) it became clear that the original view of the evolution
           | of the living beings as along a tree has been overly
           | simplistic.
           | 
           | Even if the most common form of evolution is the appearance
           | of several new species by differentiation from a common
           | ancestor, there are also many cases when a new species
           | appears as a hybrid of 2 previously distinct species.
           | 
           | This hybridization happens most frequently between closely
           | related species, by the normal process of syngamy between
           | reproductive cells (i.e. fusion of gametes), and this does
           | not change much the form of the evolution tree, but in a few
           | cases the hybridization has occurred between extremely
           | distantly related living beings, as a consequence of the
           | evolution of a symbiosis relationship towards the integration
           | of 2 distinct cells, until they have merged into a hybrid
           | cell, which reproduces as a unit and which can no longer be
           | separated into the former independent constituents without
           | causing death.
           | 
           | Because of these very long range hybridization cases, the
           | evolution tree has merged branches, so it is no longer a tree
           | in the graph theory sense, even if most smaller parts of it
           | are still trees.
           | 
           | Besides these cases of complete hybridization, the form of
           | the evolution tree is complicated by partial hybridizations,
           | i.e. by the so-called lateral transfer of genes, which is
           | frequently mediated by viruses, between unrelated species,
           | e.g. between snakes and frogs, as reported right now in
           | another thread on HN.
           | 
           | So, like in a code repository, in the evolution of the DNA
           | the most frequent event is creating forks, which are then
           | edited separately (i.e. separate DNA mutations in distinct
           | species), the next most frequent event is to copy and paste
           | some code fragment from a branch to another branch (i.e.
           | lateral transfer of genes between distinct species), and the
           | least frequent event is the merge of 2 distinct branches,
           | which is less and less frequent the more the branches have
           | diverged since forking, because that increases the chances of
           | fatal bugs in the merged code (i.e. species hybridization
           | events).
           | 
           | It should be noted however, that while Margulis' supposition
           | about the endosymbiotic origin of mitochondria and
           | chloroplasts has been confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt,
           | she got carried away by the enthusiasm of understanding these
           | important events in the history of the living beings and she
           | had also made a third proposal, that also the flagella of the
           | eukaryotes are the result of an endosymbiotic event. This
           | third supposition was wrong.
        
             | alehlopeh wrote:
             | The merging of separate evolutionary branches makes sense
             | to me on a cellular level, but how does a species propagate
             | from a single individual?
        
               | chc wrote:
               | Binary fission.
        
               | agarsev wrote:
               | Mutations also happen in one individual. This gene then
               | enters the pool of the population, and it can spread. The
               | genes from a hybrid individual diffuse into the
               | population when it reproduces. Speciation happens when a
               | population accumulates enough changes to be distinct from
               | other populations of the same original species.
        
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