[HN Gopher] Addiction to ideas (2017)
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       Addiction to ideas (2017)
        
       Author : yamrzou
       Score  : 65 points
       Date   : 2022-10-27 09:27 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | greggsy wrote:
       | Major epilepsy warning on iOS Safari btw
        
         | Hendrikto wrote:
         | I am on iOS Safari, and everything seems in order. What
         | problems did you experience?
        
           | greggsy wrote:
           | Actually, it must have been Dark Reader. Heaving black /
           | white flashing and reloads.
        
       | OrvalWintermute wrote:
       | I learned nothing from that article.
        
         | eternalban wrote:
         | Unfair. Surely, TIL that there is such a thing as professorship
         | in entrepreneurship.
        
       | drekipus wrote:
       | I was just thinking about this the other day. I am (was?)
       | addicted to ideas.
       | 
       | I love to create things and think of interesting situations that
       | could potentially take off. The idea itself is thrilling! There's
       | a self fuelling feedback loop.
       | 
       | But I've learnt to temper myself a bit. Great ideas are common,
       | but to even just implement one "fully" will take many years to
       | then sell on to other people and get investments and so on, not
       | withstanding time it takes to maintain. Something I can't balance
       | with a full job and kids. (Funnily enough, my current job is
       | maintaining software for another person's great idea, but less
       | risky, more upfront money, and more focused on what I want to do,
       | so why do I want to do my own?).
       | 
       | I sometimes think I should start my own software shop so that I
       | can action ideas, but realistically this is more risky, not less.
       | 
       | Because I'm staring at screens all day during work hours, I
       | really cannot bring myself to make prototypes. So instead I just
       | look to fill my pen-and-paper journal with ideas and wireframes
       | and things. I'm thinking of getting an eink tablet to digitise
       | the process.
       | 
       | This helps me to get the idea down and out of the system, and
       | then I look at it a bit more objectively and realise it does or
       | doesn't work, or that I wasn't understanding the original
       | problems fully, or that it was a hammer looking for a nail. If
       | anything seems sensible and is low effort I'll do more to
       | validate it, writing down why it might fail.
       | 
       | I think this helps me the most, and I have an index of ideas I
       | can refer back to when I'm out in the park.
        
       | glitchc wrote:
       | A landing page doesn't work for everything right? A web-based
       | product, sure, but what if it's something tangible? You need to
       | build a prototype.
        
         | mikesabat wrote:
         | Figuring out how to test and validate quickly and inexpensively
         | is still valuable. Yes, trickier if it's not SaaS or software,
         | but still possible.
         | 
         | If you take the YC credo, "Build something people want", there
         | are two assumptions that need to be tested. 1) Do people want
         | it and 2) Can you build it? I think that most times it's best
         | to test #1 first.
        
         | jeffreyrogers wrote:
         | Yeah that's one of my pet peeves with lean-startup type stuff.
         | It's great for consumer products that aren't too different from
         | what people are used to but not that useful for work that
         | requires a lot of R&D (since there what you end up with often
         | depends on constraints you learn about during the R&D process).
         | 
         | Look at a technology that has had a massive impact on the
         | world: fracking. People pursued that for many years with
         | limited results before they were able to do it
         | successfully/economically.
        
       | lob_it wrote:
       | As a life-long learner and technology native (not a digital
       | douchebag), ideas, new concepts, innovation are part of a healthy
       | routine.
       | 
       | The authors misrepresentation of "the next uber" made me laugh.
       | History has shown that living a passionate life pays dividends
       | that are not inferior integers.
       | 
       | Health is a good example of ideas that have the best residuals in
       | life. No mention that 8 hours of quality sleep a night provide
       | more value than tossing and turning.
       | 
       | The author does not appear to be 21st century compatible. Mental
       | illness is at a persons discretion. Not chasing 3rd world goals
       | (mimick/imitation/fake) leaves more capacity for quality time.
        
       | vonnik wrote:
       | Just like nobody can get sober for you, everybody must stumble
       | upon problem discovery and the mom test for themselves.
       | 
       | It's hard to be lost. But less hard than wasting years of your
       | life on a bad idea.
       | 
       | https://vonnik.substack.com/p/a-building-complex
        
       | quickthrower2 wrote:
       | It is a funny world because yes as a solo an idea without money
       | coming in from customers is useless but with investors they might
       | pay millions to help you see if an idea has traction (see all the
       | highly engineered startups running in alpha or with free tier
       | waitlists)
        
       | samsquire wrote:
       | I love writing my ideas down. I also work on software to
       | implement my ideas.
       | 
       | I do all my writing in the open, on GitHub and links are on my
       | profile. I use markdown to write my idea journal. I create a
       | heading for each idea.
       | 
       | If you don't write ideas down, you won't have better ideas that
       | the ideas you did have reveal. We know that many companies pivot
       | or end up doing something they didn't originally intend to. The
       | same is true for ideas. The more you do something the better you
       | get at it.
       | 
       | I am at 725+ computer ideas I enjoy writing about. I'm not the
       | first for them but I enjoyed thinking of them (I didn't read
       | about them elsewhere). I write about Parallelism, multithreaded,
       | software design, software architecture, programming language
       | design, futuristic things software should do.
       | 
       | Ideas are where mathematics, science and theology come from.
       | Someone heard or thought of an idea they like and wrote it down.
       | You benefit from ideas and education everyday. Don't say they're
       | worthless.
        
         | TechBro8615 wrote:
         | Writing software is my favorite way to write down my ideas!
        
       | tehchromic wrote:
       | "Keep in mind that ideally, you want your market to be addicted
       | to you. You don't want to be addicted to your market."
       | 
       | Brilliant
        
       | jamesgill wrote:
       | This reminds me a lot of Daniel Vassallo's 'Small Bets' ideas,
       | especially this one: 'Treat ideas like cattle, not pets':
       | https://twitter.com/dvassallo/status/1583480276134809606
        
         | throwamon wrote:
         | "Treat ideas like cattle... Except this idea."
        
       | russellbeattie wrote:
       | I've had a theory for a long time about how people can react to
       | new ideas. Someone (usually me) comes up with a new idea and they
       | expect one of two types of responses: Confirmation or
       | Affirmation.
       | 
       | Sometimes you just want to hear someone agree with you. You
       | haven't thought it all out, the idea is in its initial stages and
       | you don't want someone to be a wet blanket, you just want to get
       | it out of your head and see if the person might be able to give
       | you additional info or insights on it. You need a sounding board
       | and a chance to just listen yourself talk. You don't need the
       | person at that moment to start finding holes in a nascent idea.
       | This is what I call affirmation.
       | 
       | The other times, you've got an idea and you're ready to commit to
       | it, but you need someone to play devil's advocate. You want them
       | to sanity check the idea and tell you if they find anything wrong
       | with it. You want them to poke holes in the plan so you don't do
       | something dumb. You appreciate it when they really try to grok
       | what you're saying and look for the problems. I call this
       | confirmation.
       | 
       | Ever get annoyed with your SO, friend or coworker because you're
       | telling them some new idea and they give you the wrong kind of
       | feedback? Maybe they're just too agreeable: "What? I'm agreeing
       | with you." Stop it! I want your honest opinion! "Sounds fine to
       | me." ARRGH! Or the other side, when they immediately jump in with
       | objections: "I'm just saying that it's not realistic..." I know
       | that, I'm just trying to... "And secondly..." Stop!
       | 
       | When someone comes to me with something, the first thing I ask
       | them is what sort of feedback they're looking for. Sometimes
       | they're thinking about investing all their money and need someone
       | to make sure their reasoning is sound. Sometimes they can tell
       | they have a germ of a good idea, but not sure where to take it.
       | Giving the right type of feedback is essential.
       | 
       | This goes for GitHub projects or blog posts and lots of other
       | things as well. Sometimes someone is putting something out there
       | in the spirit of experimentation or brainstorming, other times
       | it's something that is supposed to be a solid foundation or a
       | real product. It's always a good idea when reacting to figure out
       | which stage something is in, and contribute accordingly.
        
       | night-rider wrote:
       | Ideas without execution are just that: ideas. Yes, they are
       | valuable, and you can never have enough of them, but without
       | fleshing them out and taking meaningful action on them, they tend
       | to rot, or on a long enough timeline, someone dreams up the same
       | idea as yours and turns it into a million-dollar venture, which
       | you could have done if you took action.
        
       | nonrandomstring wrote:
       | Facing the fact that ideas are ten a penny, it makes sense to see
       | what necessary but perhaps still insufficient accessories an idea
       | needs to prosper. In order of increasing value;
       | 
       | an idea
       | 
       | a good idea
       | 
       | a good implementable idea
       | 
       | a good implementable idea whose time has come
       | 
       | an invention (the concrete verification of an idea)
       | 
       | a design ( a workable invention)
       | 
       | a potential product (reproducible/manufacturable design)
       | 
       | a potentially profitable product
       | 
       | a marketable and profitable product
       | 
       | a marketable, profitable product, backed by money and good luck
        
         | labrador wrote:
         | > Facing the fact that ideas are ten a penny
         | 
         | I've heard this before from inventors. It's the work you put in
         | to realize the idea, they say. But they're inventors. They have
         | a lot of ideas. Average people don't have a lot of ideas. Can
         | we at least appreciate when we come up with an idea?
        
       | 13415 wrote:
       | Weird, I've made the opposite experience than described in this
       | blog post. Most people I know, including family, tend to be
       | skeptical about any idea and immediately come up with thousands
       | of reasons why the idea is bad. Maybe I know too many negative
       | people but I've always figured there are more naysayers than
       | enthusiasts, and it's best to ignore the former.
        
         | paulryanrogers wrote:
         | My theory is that some ideas are so risky that skepticism has
         | become endemic. If optimism is overabundant then people may
         | waste so much effort on impossible fantasies everyone suffers.
         | My guess is there is an optimal balance of both.
         | 
         | Religion in particular feels like a phenomenon built on
         | unchecked optimism. And it has no shortage of waste and
         | grifters, at least IME.
        
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