[HN Gopher] Apple calls on global supply chain to decarbonize by...
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Apple calls on global supply chain to decarbonize by 2030
Author : mfiguiere
Score : 20 points
Date : 2022-10-25 22:09 UTC (50 minutes ago)
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| lizardactivist wrote:
| Apple letting people know how they're championing environmental
| initiatives, all while their high horse is shitting out earpods
| and other disposable electronics at inflated prices like there's
| no tomorrow unless the billions roll in.
| adamwk wrote:
| Are you talking about AirPods? Everyone I know (myself
| included) keeps theirs longer than most people keep phones
| CivBase wrote:
| Most pairs of cheap earbuds I own are older than the AirPods
| have been around.
| JaggerJo wrote:
| Have my first pair still in use.
| amelius wrote:
| How long you keep them is only one side of the story. The
| other side is how often you buy stuff. You could make an
| argument that the average person buys more electronics
| because Apple started pushing it to the market.
| bamboozled wrote:
| Too little too late.
| it_citizen wrote:
| Slightly unrelated: In your opinion, is Apple part of the most
| ethical large tech companies? Which other company do you put up
| there?
|
| (And yes, I know the bar is probably pretty low)
| cercatrova wrote:
| Ethical in what areas? They're pretty good with their
| environmental reforms after Tim Cook took the helm (I'm not
| talking about removing the headphone jack or lack of chargers
| in boxes, but having mostly paper packaging which he needed to
| convince Jobs to adopt, the book Tim Cook is a great
| introduction), but the way they take 30% off every transaction
| and generally act like an artifical gatekeeper when IMO they
| should be more intercompatible with other companies, is
| unethical to me.
| ben_w wrote:
| I would say yes; the other big names on my list would be
| Netflix, Google, Microsoft, and Tesla/SpaceX.
|
| And yes, that's despite the controversies; none of them seem to
| me to be _actively_ evil, merely giants who tread incautiously.
| 1-6 wrote:
| When future earnings become problematic, shift the topic to clean
| energy initiatives to artificially limit production.
| smoldesu wrote:
| Very convenient, considering the company with the most money
| can buy the most carbon credits!
| ben_w wrote:
| They've been saying this kind of thing since before they were a
| mere single trillion dollar market capitalisation. (Currently
| $2.4 trillion, IIRC).
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| OK then. Put your money where your mouth is, Apple, and send some
| checks to UPS, FedEx, DHL, Foxconn, TSMC, Samsung, 3M, BOE,
| Flextronics, Hitachi, LG, Micron, Molex, Nidec, NXP, Panasonic,
| Pegatron, Qualcomm, Skyworks, Sony, STMicroelectronics, Texas
| Instruments, and all of your other hundreds of suppliers and get
| them carbon neutral. Otherwise it's just a "we call on" when you
| are fully capable of "we funded everybody to the point where."
|
| If this is truly a climate emergency, that cash (what was it,
| $200B in reserves?) is a small price to pay, and would help a
| long way for companies that can't afford it like you can.
| Otherwise keep your mouth shut - it's nothing more than a "we
| really think you should spend your money on..." at best and a
| "spend your profits on this or else" at worst.
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| This is easier to say when you design how things should be built
| versus actually building things, but it is a great goal.
|
| Apple could do so much more for the environment, but it would
| hurt their profits.
| esskay wrote:
| That last part could be said of most corporations. The
| difference is Apple has so far backed it up with concrete proof
| that they genuinely have at very least done something, even if
| its not as much as we'd all like.
| kieranmaine wrote:
| To offer an alternative view to those bashing Apple it appears
| they have made solid progress on reducing emissions over the last
| 5 years. Some concrete stats on their emissions reductions can be
| found on page 84 on this report
| https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_Pr...
|
| Total gross carbon footprint (without offsets)10 (metric tons
| CO2e):
|
| Fiscal Year 2017: 23,200,000
|
| Fiscal Year 2021: 27,500,000
|
| This include Scope 1, 2 and 3 emissions so AFAIK includes things
| like transportation of goods.
|
| For scope definitions see
| https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/what-a...
| stormbrew wrote:
| Disappointing there's no explicit mention of shipping here, which
| is almost certainly a huge part of things and an area where a big
| mover could make a big difference for an entire industry.
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