[HN Gopher] Heroku Free Alternatives
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       Heroku Free Alternatives
        
       Author : engagespot
       Score  : 198 points
       Date   : 2022-10-22 17:05 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | esfandia wrote:
       | Which one of these free alternatives would work best for a Spring
       | Boot deployment, ideally with a PostgreSQL database?
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | mardix wrote:
       | If interested in self hosted alternative, which can be hosted on
       | Digital Ocean, Linode, Hetzner, check out Sailor[1]. Sailor[1] is
       | a tiny PaaS to install on your servers/VPS that uses git push to
       | deploy micro-apps, micro-services, sites with SSL, on your own
       | servers or VPS, similar to Heroku
       | 
       | [1] https://github.com/mardix/sailor.
        
       | rubenfiszel wrote:
       | https://windmill.dev: open source developer platform to turn
       | scripts in Python, Typescript and go into endpoints, shareable
       | internal apps, workflows and schedulable jobs.
        
         | mbb70 wrote:
         | Pretty sure you meant https://windmill.dev
        
           | rubenfiszel wrote:
           | I do, thanks :)
        
       | daveidol wrote:
       | Thanks. This would be a lot more useful with a comparison of
       | features or trade offs (e.g. how many resources do you get? does
       | it suspend? what about databases? etc.) instead of just the
       | marketing taglines for each service.
        
         | buffalobuffalo wrote:
         | Agreed. I am looking for a very specific use case. These lists
         | don't really provide much insight into whether or not a service
         | fits.
         | 
         | For reference, my use case/requirements:                  - I
         | want to be able to deploy dockerized apps to an AWS region.
         | - I should be able to define different process types with
         | different env vars/instance scale        - I don't want to have
         | to worry at all about underlying infrastructure        - I want
         | to be able to pipe the logs out to some other unified logging
         | - I want to be able to deploy from a CI pipeline.
         | 
         | So far nothing else I've seen besides heroku fits the bill.
        
         | funerr wrote:
         | Shameless plug, I created my own awesome list that covers many
         | of these providers - I curated products that developers would
         | like:
         | 
         | https://github.com/agamm/awesome-developer-first#deployment-...
         | 
         | I might add the limits too - a cool idea.
        
         | culi wrote:
         | This is my main problem with "awesome lists". I appreciate all
         | the work that goes into cataloging things but without any
         | exploration functionality (i.e. search, filter, sort), it's
         | nearly useless. Tbh I don't recall a single time I really got
         | something from an awesome list and I definitely haven't ever
         | referred back to any of the lists I've saved/starred
         | 
         | They might be fun for random exploration if you're killing
         | time, but not really a tool
        
           | granshaw wrote:
           | Right. Really what's needed is one of those feature
           | comparison sections with check marks or not as seen on
           | landing pages.
           | 
           | Put it in an airtable. Done.
        
           | derefr wrote:
           | I don't believe "awesome lists" are intended to make your
           | decisions for you; rather, they're intended as an input for a
           | business analyst to gather that data (i.e. to thoroughly
           | follow all the links, read entries for competitors in a
           | solution-space, and build a feature-matrix themselves) and
           | then make those decisions. In that use-case, they've been
           | invaluable to me personally.
           | 
           | Of course, you could get that same discoverability from
           | language-package manager tool/website, if such systems ever
           | allowed users (not developers!) to tag or otherwise multiply
           | categorize packages, the way that e.g. Spotify allows users
           | to create discoverable public playlists.
        
           | TillE wrote:
           | They're far from useless, awesome-whatever is usually great
           | for getting an overview of what _kind_ of tools exist out
           | there and what some popular choices are.
           | 
           | If you're already aware of all that, sure, they don't add
           | much information. Concise comparison is pretty
           | difficult...except in cases like this.
        
       | ldjkfkdsjnv wrote:
       | Why not just use AWS? The free tier goes pretty far for a basic
       | webapp. Plus basically any extra infrastructure you might need. I
       | have a whole distributed data ingestion startup that when not
       | used costs 2$ to host on AWS. The front end and backend APIs are
       | basically free, its only the ML workloads that cost anything
        
         | metadat wrote:
         | Or go with the Oracle OCI free-tier and get even more resources
         | for $0. The free 24GB ARM instances are generous and capable.
         | Just make sure to select a home region during sign-up which has
         | them (Phoenix / PHX probably gives the best odds).
         | 
         | that said, perhaps not everyone is a sysadmin and security
         | expert. In fact, this was the whole beauty of Heroku; "git push
         | heroku" and you're done.
        
           | ldjkfkdsjnv wrote:
           | Maybe, but if you do enough fishing around on github repos,
           | you can find CDK code that will spin up a whole secure
           | website with a database.
        
             | metadat wrote:
             | What is CDK?
        
               | guessmyname wrote:
               | AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) --
               | https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/
               | 
               | > _AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) is an open-source
               | software development framework used to model and
               | provision your cloud application resources with familiar
               | programming languages. AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK)
               | accelerates cloud development using common programming
               | languages to model your applications._
               | 
               | If you have used or read about Hashicorp Terraform, this
               | is basically the same thing but limited to AWS. The
               | "Getting Started" website shows a bit of code if you want
               | a preview -- https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cdk/v2/guide/get
               | ting_started.htm...
        
               | scarface74 wrote:
               | While the AWS SDK is limited to AWS, Hashicorp ported the
               | CDK to Terraform.
               | 
               | https://developer.hashicorp.com/terraform/cdktf
        
           | troysk wrote:
           | dokku does that well. not sure if it works on ARM arch
           | though.
        
             | josegonzalez wrote:
             | Dokku works on ARM and ARM64, in addition to AMD64.
             | 
             | Note: I'm the maintainer of Dokku.
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | fbdab103 wrote:
           | Yeah, but then I have to be looking over my shoulder that
           | Larry Ellison is going to spring some kind of legal/financial
           | trap.
           | 
           | I will pay more to avoid Oracle.
        
           | cercatrova wrote:
           | You couldn't pay me to use anything Oracle based. I'd much
           | rather take my chances with AWS or another host than use
           | Oracle.
        
             | metadat wrote:
             | What is the distinction between Bezos vs. Ellison? They are
             | both sociopathic jerks. In any case, more power to you,
             | friend.
             | 
             | In my eyes, a rented server is a rented server regardless
             | of which data center or network provider is behind it. It's
             | not emotional, merely an optimization game.
        
               | fbdab103 wrote:
               | Debatably, Amazon is focused on delivering a good product
               | ("customer focused"). Oracle feels far more likely to
               | "trick" you into a costly financial arrangement where you
               | are offered a deal you cannot refuse.
        
               | metadat wrote:
               | I've found OCI to be roughly on par with AWS for compute
               | and networking. I've had the free tier account and
               | corresponding instances for more than 5 years now with
               | zero issues.
               | 
               | With that said, it's generally good advice to not count
               | or rely on anything free for important things.
               | 
               | Hence the motivation behind this story; Heroku used to be
               | free and now it's evaporating away back into the ether.
               | 
               | My only goal here is to provide helpful information.
               | Cheers.
        
         | nosecreek wrote:
         | Free tier is limited to 12 months though, isn't it?
        
         | derefr wrote:
         | Because an IaaS is not a PaaS, and people who were previously
         | dependent on Heroku probably don't have the DevOps skillset
         | required to use an IaaS?
         | 
         | I know Elastic Beanstalk and Lightsail both exist; but they're
         | both much more complicated than `git push heroku master`. And
         | that's not even counting what you have to do/learn to be able
         | to wire up a DB or Redis instance or Email deliverability on
         | AWS.
        
           | ldjkfkdsjnv wrote:
           | I should just start a startup that converts heroku into an
           | AWS instance then because its straightforward
        
         | Waterluvian wrote:
         | Infrastructure is a distraction to what Heroku users actually
         | care about: sharing their thing online. AWS takes us in the
         | wrong direction in terms of minimizing that distraction. It's
         | also kinda scary to screw up and be on the hook for lots of
         | money.
        
           | dragonwriter wrote:
           | > Infrastructure is a distraction to what Heroku users
           | actually care about: sharing their thing online. AWS takes us
           | in the wrong direction in terms of minimizing that
           | distraction
           | 
           | Isn't that what AWS Elastic Beanstalk is about? AWS supports
           | a wide variety of different approaches.
        
             | whatever1 wrote:
             | Beanstalk has a lot of surprising costs like loadbalancing.
             | 
             | I was trying something on a simple Django project that
             | nobody else accessed except me for like 3 times. AWS
             | charged me $30 that month. Nobody knows what load they were
             | balancing since I barely used the app.
             | 
             | I shut down everything.
        
       | troysk wrote:
       | TejPage.com[https://TejPage.com] - currently in beta, supports
       | heroku buildpacks and docker containers is providing services in
       | India using baremetal servers located in India. We use dokku
       | running on ubuntu to provide the services. We slowly rolling it
       | out. Performance on baremetal is great!
        
       | dieselgate wrote:
       | I have used Heroku free in the past but and thinking of using a
       | digital ocean droplet in the future for Rails apps in a docker
       | container.
       | 
       | Anyone have better options than a droplet? My budget is around
       | $5/month ideally
        
         | yawnxyz wrote:
         | I moved my CouchDB and Pocketbase instances previously running
         | on the cheapest DO droplets to Fly.io, and they're both faster
         | and I haven't paid Fly.io anything to run them.
         | 
         | (They're small projects, so not running into paid tier yet)
        
       | justusw wrote:
       | Is there a service that supports SSO?
        
         | chrisseaton wrote:
         | Have you looked at any of them? All the ones I just tried
         | support at least one SSO options.
        
       | taosx wrote:
       | I really enjoy fly.io so far and I got the impression that the
       | primitives they have can take me really far, the only thing I'm
       | missing is better documentation and more examples but I'm sure
       | they will improve as usage grows. One thing that I can't wait to
       | try is the machines api which has the ability to scale to zero.
       | 
       | Currently I have a directus app with sqlite and litestream on it
       | but will probably move away from that to something custom as I
       | don't have a good story regarding migration and ci/cd.
        
         | ncann wrote:
         | One downside of fly is it doesn't have direct deploy from
         | GitHub push. You can set it up through GitHub action, but it's
         | a lot more work than direct GitHub integration.
        
           | taosx wrote:
           | That's the path I took and I don't really mind using github
           | actions but deployment is just a pain compared to other apps
           | I built in compiled languages. (really excited to try deno in
           | the future where I have a single bundle)
        
           | zackees wrote:
        
       | Cyph0n wrote:
       | I migrated my Heroku app to GCP Cloud Run. Works like a charm,
       | integrates well with Github, and has a generous free tier.
        
         | jsmith99 wrote:
         | GCP have a few good choices for a Heroku alternative. App
         | Engine standard also has a free tier of 28 instance hours a day
         | and has convenient deploy and tracing features built in. But
         | GCP has no free tier transactional SQL database.
        
       | fhd2 wrote:
       | I was very happy with fly.io - migrating my Rails app from Heroku
       | was an absolute no brainer, took me like half an hour.
       | 
       | Then I tried Django, and all hell broke loose... Still some ways
       | to go to catch up with Heroku on all fronts I suppose, but for
       | Rails, clear recommendation.
        
       | andersco wrote:
       | For me, I was mainly using the free Heroku Postgres for side
       | projects. I tried some of those listed here but they were not a
       | fit for me. I ended up going with cockroach db and am liking it
       | so far, esp that I can easily create an unlimited number of
       | clusters that are free to start. https://www.cockroachlabs.com/
       | (I have no affiliation with cockroach labs)
        
       | mufty wrote:
       | Happy to have come across this Thanks for sharing
        
       | arkadiyt wrote:
       | I will continue to rail against Fly.io for their lack of cron job
       | support. They recently announced scheduled machines but I tried
       | it and it simply ... didn't work. Spent several hours trying to
       | deploy a machine and got nowhere.
        
         | garganzol wrote:
         | Please don't spread misinformation playing a FUD book.
         | 
         | Nothing stops you from using cron in your Dockerfile:
         | RUN apt-get install -y cron
         | 
         | Actually I just did it a few weeks ago and it works as
         | expected.
         | 
         | fly.io is universal, it just runs your Dockerfile. Everything
         | else is up to you.
        
         | jokethrowaway wrote:
         | I found some rough edges as well trying to deploy a rust app.
         | 
         | Having heard about fly.io from fasterthanlime I was expecting
         | things to be smoother but there were a few gotchas.
         | 
         | Eventually I managed to configure things in the right way but
         | it was a far cry from heroku buildpacks.
         | 
         | I'm trying to get my clients (1M+ spending per year) to switch
         | from azure (absolute dumpster fire) to fly.io but I'm not sure
         | it's mature enough just yet.
         | 
         | At that point I'd rather have to configure standard machines on
         | hetzner than finding the quirks of a random paas
        
           | garganzol wrote:
           | We are amid a similar switch from Azure to Fly.io and it is a
           | smooth sailing so far.
           | 
           | The best aspects of fly.io are 1) effortless multi-regional
           | deployments 2) technological freedom 3) price. For example:
           | Azure = $140, Fly.io = $10 for the same deployment. We are in
           | love with those guys and gals.
           | 
           | But it's not all sunshine and roses. Some fly.io users have
           | intermittent problems during deployments (see forum). I
           | believe those issues will be rectified and improved with
           | time.
        
         | chrisseaton wrote:
         | > I will continue to rail against Fly.io for their lack of cron
         | job support.
         | 
         | Don't need to 'rail against' someone building a product that
         | doesn't exactly fit your needs.
        
         | anyfactor wrote:
         | This is what I did with Heroku and will continue to do if I am
         | trying out fly.io or render (1 dollar for cronjob). I know you
         | could get free cronjob on Heroku if you provide them your
         | credit card info.
         | 
         | So, here is what I did. Added a simple API layer in front of my
         | script. The API layer takes in a secret message to a specific
         | endpoint that initiates a background process. Initially, I used
         | my raspberry pi to periodically make the API requests. But I
         | plan to try out: https://cron-job.org/en/
        
           | nosecreek wrote:
           | I've been using cron-job.org this way on my own side project
           | and it's been working great.
        
           | jokethrowaway wrote:
           | I'd consider initiating them from free GitHub actions
        
             | anyfactor wrote:
             | Isn't GitHub actions free for only public repositories?
        
         | hairofadog wrote:
         | It's on my list to evaluate Fly.io. I'm surprised by this.
        
       | llIIllIIllIIl wrote:
       | I've tried Render recently and overall i liked the experience
       | with setup and configuration of my stack.
       | 
       | Although the performance was abysmal. It's either their compute
       | or postgres, but my import of 25mb json via a script took 22
       | minutes ($450/month) on job plan, while my 2GB digital ocean box
       | did the same in 3 minutes.
       | 
       | Also email support takes 3 business days to respond.
       | 
       | But render has great potential. If they fix the performance and
       | straighten out the support, they would definitely win over a lot
       | of heroku customers.
       | 
       | Probably will just migrate to Dokky and be done with it.
        
         | anurag wrote:
         | (Render CEO) Very curious about the performance issue. Would
         | you mind sharing details over email? (address in profile)
        
       | favourable wrote:
       | Clickable links
       | 
       | https://render.com/ - One of the top Heroku alternatives with a
       | free plan to get started.
       | 
       | https://fly.io/ - Run your full stack apps (and databases!) all
       | over the world. No ops required.
       | 
       | https://railway.app/ - Railway is the cloud that takes the
       | complexity out of shipping software.
       | 
       | https://www.cyclic.sh/ - Connect your GitHub repo. We will build,
       | deploy and manage the hosting.
       | 
       | https://qoddi.com/ - Qoddi is a fully managed App Hosting
       | Platform running on a tier 1 network at 10% of the cost of
       | similar solutions.
       | 
       | https://www.deta.sh/ - Build & deploy your ideas on the
       | universe's most developer friendly cloud platform.
       | 
       | https://adaptable.io/ - Just connect your GitHub repository and
       | let Adaptable handle the rest.
       | 
       | https://www.alwaysdata.com/en/ - All your services in one place.
        
         | mooreds wrote:
         | I just deployed my first app to render. Was a good experience.
         | 
         | However, they delete your database after 90 days if you do not
         | have a paid plan. From https://render.com/docs/free#free-
         | postgresql-databases
         | 
         | "Render's free database plan allows you to run a PostgreSQL
         | database that automatically expires 90 days after creation.
         | Free databases are suspended after 90 days (unless they are
         | upgraded to a paid plan), and are no longer reachable at this
         | point."
         | 
         | The paid plans do start at $7, and you can share a database
         | across many apps, though.
         | 
         | And if you have static site or a site without a database, it
         | looks like it is forever free.
        
           | ncann wrote:
           | I tried out Render and I must say I was not impressed. Every
           | deploy took 3-5 minutes even with a Hello world Node app.
           | Maybe it was that slow because I was using the free tier? In
           | comparison, fly's deploy was also slow the first time but was
           | significantly faster for subsequent deploys.
        
             | anurag wrote:
             | Free tier deploys are slow (but not on purpose). We're
             | planning to unify our free and paid architectures so builds
             | are fast across the board.
        
           | nikita wrote:
           | You can try Neon(neon.tech). Disclaimer I'm CEO. We
           | architected Neon such that it's very cheap for us to keep the
           | database forever.
           | 
           | It's still behind the waitlist but it's coming off in a few
           | weeks. Also if you onboard via hasura.io there is no gate.
        
             | mhrmsn wrote:
             | This looks pretty cool! From the docs it sounds like one
             | can pick the underlying cloud provider and region, is that
             | true?
        
             | johtso wrote:
             | Another great option with a similar approach that's now
             | publicly available with a generous free tier is CockroachDB
             | serverless
        
         | 8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote:
         | Request for startup: something like Render, but that is HIPAA
         | compliant from day one.
        
           | bongobingo1 wrote:
           | fly advertises HIPAA
           | 
           | https://fly.io/docs/about/healthcare/
        
           | geoffeg wrote:
           | You might check out https://www.aptible.com/. It's not quite
           | as ridiculously simple as Heroku but they are HIPAA
           | compliant.
        
           | anurag wrote:
           | (Render CEO) We now offer a standard BAA for HIPAA
           | compliance. Email support@render.com to get started.
        
         | Sytten wrote:
         | We have been using render in production for about 8 months
         | (paid services). Overall happy but some things are annoying:
         | 
         | - Latency of the oregon region is very high. A simple health
         | endpoint is around 500ms from north america and europe, 1.3s
         | from Asia/Australia (we have been monitoring it for many months
         | with better uptime)
         | 
         | - Services tend to die at least once a week, so you do need at
         | least two instances all the time
         | 
         | - Logs are often delayed for a long time, though it has been
         | more severe recently.
         | 
         | - Build time is just horrible, our rust service takes around
         | 40m to deploy. I get that it is free, but at least give me a
         | docker registry so I can build it elsewhere and push the image
         | 
         | - No option to pay for support 24/7, so if there is an outage
         | during the US night you are on your own
        
         | mhrmsn wrote:
         | How does alwaysdata work? The pricing just references different
         | storage tiers - how is that related to vCPUs or RAM or the
         | number of apps, DBs etc. deployed? Couldn't really find
         | anything on their site...
        
         | anyfactor wrote:
         | I wish fly.io provided more clarity about their free tier.
        
           | selykg wrote:
           | What's unclear about it? I read the pricing page and it seems
           | clear to me.
        
             | anyfactor wrote:
             | I wish they provided more clarity considering they are seen
             | as a _Heroku alternative_ , let me explain that.
             | 
             | I am not saying that it fails to provide clarity to someone
             | who is willing to pay for it, but the rule of thumb of
             | pricing pages offering a "free" product is to explicitly
             | mention this = "$0". Am I being picky? Yes. Why? Because it
             | is a Heroku alternative, and Heroku did mention free in an
             | obvious way in describing their pricing plans.
             | 
             | When you mention overage charges immediately after the free
             | tier, it kinda feels a little bit weird. In the pricing
             | plans section, they don't mention a free plan.
             | 
             | https://fly.io/plans
             | 
             | https://render.com/pricing
             | 
             | https://www.heroku.com/pricing
        
               | tptacek wrote:
               | We're happy people are running workloads on us that they
               | used to run on Heroku, but we are our own thing; we've
               | been around for years, long before Heroku killed their
               | free tier.
        
               | anyfactor wrote:
               | My apologies. I totally understand fly.io being a
               | distinct company with their offering and history.
               | 
               | To me, fly.io is an alternative to Heroku as the title of
               | the thread is "on: Heroku Free Alternatives". So I was
               | comparing it to Heroku and their pricing section UX.
        
         | hkhanna wrote:
         | We switched from Heroku to Render about 6 months ago. It was a
         | great experience initially, but there are a lot of sharp edges
         | we've encountered since then, to the point that if I were
         | switching away from Heroku today, I'd consider something else.
         | 
         | For example, we had a monitor set up in Papertrail that
         | notifies us if it doesn't see our application's heartbeat log
         | entry in a 10-minute period. We had to disable that monitor
         | because Render will regularly have outages related to logging
         | where logs simply don't make it to the log stream. Their status
         | page is all green and I've unfortunately had to reach out to
         | support on more than one Friday night.
         | 
         | Deploys take a little too long, around 5 minutes on the paid
         | Pro Plus tier.
         | 
         | And, minor gripe, but the web UI feels like an SPA, and I think
         | it's built to be one, but the frontend state isn't stable and
         | will often show the wrong information. From time to time,
         | you'll need to manually refresh the page to get the correct
         | information.
         | 
         | The security issue that happened with Heroku back in April and
         | the subsequent flubbing of communication around the issue made
         | it so we had no choice but to migrate. But the platform itself
         | was rock solid in my experience. I don't get that same feeling
         | from Render.
         | 
         | I'm holding out hope that it improves in the coming months!
         | 
         | EDIT: I double checked the deploy times because of the comment
         | below, and it's actually closer to 5 minutes, not 10, so I've
         | updated my comment accordingly. 5 minutes is much more
         | reasonable.
        
           | anurag wrote:
           | I'm sorry you ran into these issues and feel your
           | frustration. The tl;dr is we hit completely unexpected scale
           | overnight when Heroku's free tier news broke, and had to find
           | and fix unpredictable bottlenecks quickly. We're in better
           | shape now, and I feel confident about the rough edges fading
           | away over the next few weeks.
           | 
           | For example, we've worked hard to get logging to a stable
           | state over the last couple of weeks, and I hope you've
           | noticed the improvements already.
           | 
           | Regarding deploys, I'm surprised they're taking this long on
           | paid plans. I'd love to follow up if you could share details
           | over email (address in profile). We have internal SLOs around
           | build times and we've made (and observed) improvements
           | recently, so I'm wondering if this is specific to how your
           | build is being cached.
        
             | hkhanna wrote:
             | Totally understand re the unexpected scale, and Render did
             | pretty well, all things considered.
             | 
             | I double checked the deploy times and it's closer to 5
             | minutes, so I updated my comment accordingly.
             | 
             | I'm rooting for you!
        
         | ricklamers wrote:
         | One more, my personal favorite.
         | 
         | https://northflank.com/ - The comprehensive developer platform
         | to build and scale microservices, jobs and managed databases
         | with a powerful UI, API & CLI.
        
         | aantix wrote:
         | Can you include Hatchbox ( https://hatchbox.io/ )? Coupled with
         | Linode.
        
         | rozenmd wrote:
         | I recently migrated OnlineOrNot's uptime checks to run (mostly)
         | on fly.io, strong recommend for ease of use and reliability!
         | 
         | I wrote about the experience here: https://onlineornot.com/on-
         | moving-million-uptime-checks-onto...
        
         | pigtailgirl wrote:
         | -- fwiw had an awful interview process with railway - long call
         | with the CEO - asked some follow up questions via email - got a
         | reply to move forward - put in 6 hours of work - ghosted --
        
         | bongobingo1 wrote:
         | Is delta just ... free? I cant see _any_ price anywhere on the
         | site, which just leaves me suspicious.
         | 
         | They do seem to be pushing some sort of creative-focus, maybe
         | they intend to just keep it really small user base, invite
         | only, just people who actually make things vs a platform just
         | to run your SaaS on?
        
           | rolisz wrote:
           | I've been using deta for a (quite small) side project for a
           | year now. It's free, but it has quite the limitations: max
           | RAM of 512 MB (recently upgraded, before it was 128), and
           | their database is a custom thingy, which doesn't have too
           | many features.
        
       | satvikpendem wrote:
       | This topic came up a few weeks ago and I commented [0] that I
       | started using Coolify (https://coolify.io), an open source self-
       | hosted PaaS that's similar to CapRover and Dokku but in my
       | opinion the developer experience is a lot simpler since it has a
       | GUI unlike Dokku (non-Pro version, anyway) and the deployment was
       | easier than CapRover since it connects directly to your
       | GitHub/GitLab account via their API.
       | 
       | I've used a lot of the alternatives listed here but each one had
       | some drawback or another. In contrast, I got a cheap 5 dollar
       | Hetzner server and it's more powerful than any of what the free
       | options here give you (Hetzner gets you 2 AMD vCPUs and 2 GB
       | RAM), plus unlike AWS I never have to worry about whether I'm
       | gonna randomly pay $10k this month due to a traffic spike. The
       | only thing that was missing before was a good PaaS solution for
       | the server (and I used to use Dokku before primarily) but Coolify
       | solves that neatly.
       | 
       | [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33077118#33077464
        
       | asdojasdosadsa wrote:
       | Hey, great list!
       | 
       | Just wanted to give a shoutout to Netlify, great free tier and
       | very easy to use
        
       | cebert wrote:
       | I know of Heroku, but am a little removed from it because I'm so
       | invested in AWS. There's been a few Heroku alternative articles
       | on HN recently. Is my understanding correct that it's still
       | around and there haven't been any plans communicated to kill the
       | service? Are the concerns more that Salesforce purchased them?
        
         | fredoliveira wrote:
         | It's not just that Salesforce has acquired Heroku, but that
         | they also will be retiring the free plans, as per the following
         | links:                 https://www.heroku.com/free
         | https://blog.heroku.com/next-chapter
        
       | bsnnkv wrote:
       | I submitted a post to HN last week that provides a technical
       | overview of migrating from Digital Ocean Kubernetes to Fly.io.[1]
       | 
       | The submission contains a lot of interesting comments on the
       | perceived pros and cons of using a service like Fly.io from a
       | variety of viewpoints.
       | 
       | I'm happy to also answer any questions here about my DO k8s ->
       | Fly.io migration experience.
       | 
       | [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33235042
        
       | radarsat1 wrote:
       | Anyone know something like these but that supports GPU? I'm
       | struggling a bit to figure out the best way to host a demo that
       | involves a deep learning component. Usage is expected to be
       | bursty so I don't want to constantly have to rent an unknown
       | number of instances just because I don't know when people will
       | use it. Seems like a good use case for "serverless" but those
       | (Lambda, etc) don't seem to support GPU either. Maybe I need some
       | DL-specific backend service instead of going for a regular web
       | host?
        
       | monlockandkey wrote:
       | The best alternative to Heroku is a cheap VPS with Digital Ocean
       | or Linode. Throw on the open source PAAS software
       | https://dokku.com/ and boom, cheap, simple and easy.
        
         | hippich wrote:
         | +1
         | 
         | Also, dokku author is very responsive in GitHub issues list.
        
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