[HN Gopher] Man says he lowered his town's water fluoride for ov...
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Man says he lowered his town's water fluoride for over a decade
Author : HieronymusBosch
Score : 15 points
Date : 2022-10-21 19:53 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| jleyank wrote:
| Send the guy all of the bills for fillings and the like.
| kbos87 wrote:
| How is there not a single mention of the potential of criminal
| liability on his part?
| V__ wrote:
| How is it possible (even for a small town of only 4100) that one
| person can change the water composition for a decade without
| anyone noticing? Besides the health implication, isn't this a
| huge national security risk if there is no monitoring in place?
| codyogden wrote:
| My parent worked at a water treatment plant in a small town.
| They could have easily screwed around with the chemical
| compositions without anyone knowing. Nearly anyone could have
| brute forced the control room: a single key/lock would need to
| be bypassed. There was no access control or logging to the room
| itself, and everyone who worked there had a master key to all
| buildings and facilities. Lab tests were done on site and were
| recorded manually, so they could easily just lie about the
| results.
| rejectfinite wrote:
| You think somebody checks? On anything, ever?
|
| The guy who did it was the water guy, not some random.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| No governance, controls, or risk management over life critical
| systems. It's everywhere, you just don't know or see it until
| it fails.
| DIARRHEA_xd wrote:
| Any data on cavities per capita in the area over the past decade?
| AdamJacobMuller wrote:
| > there is not a lot of high-quality data looking at all the
| possible effects of fluoridating community water
|
| This guy just inadvertently (or not) created a great study
| pool.
| nkurz wrote:
| One question I had was whether fluoridated water provides
| additional benefit beyond if you are already using a fluoridated
| toothpaste. Obviously, having it in the water would benefit
| people who don't regularly brush their teeth, but it's not
| obvious that it's helpful if you already are getting your
| fluorine from the toothpaste. It's of interest to me because I
| drink non-fluoridated well water, but brush my teeth daily with a
| modern toothpaste. Anyone know?
|
| My quick attempt to research this lead me to this nice Nature
| article from last year:
| https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02924-6. The article
| helps to quantify the positives of fluoridation of water: real,
| but not as large as one might guess. The bulk of the article is
| about someone who sued the EPA to prevent fluoridation of public
| water supplies. From what I can tell the suit is much delayed but
| still in progress: https://fluoridealert.org/issues/tsca-
| fluoride-trial/.
| Trouble_007 wrote:
| The Arstechnica comments are worthy of a read, I particularly
| liked the 'Dr. Strangelove' reference.
|
| 'How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb' :
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Strangelove
|
| _> General Jack D. Ripper : You know when fluoridation first
| began?
|
| Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake : I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
|
| General Jack D. Ripper : Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946,
| Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-
| war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious,
| isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our
| precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual.
| Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core
| Commie works.
|
| Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake : Uh, Jack, Jack, listen... tell me,
| tell me, Jack. When did you first... become...
| well, develop this theory?*
|
| _
| ParksNet wrote:
| People rebel against fluoride, but ignore pesticide residues,
| PFAS contamination, leachates from plastic piping...
| lotsofpulp wrote:
| I found it funny how pro science the voters of Portland, OR /
| Multnomah County were when it came to enacting COVID protocols,
| but have rejected the science of water fluoridation multiple
| times, most recently in 2013.
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