[HN Gopher] Was It A Cat I Saw?
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Was It A Cat I Saw?
Author : MississippiGary
Score : 58 points
Date : 2022-10-21 06:39 UTC (16 hours ago)
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| pfdietz wrote:
| A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps,
| snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a
| banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a
| Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal--Panama!
|
| -- From Guy Steele, "Common Lisp, The Language (2nd ed.)"
|
| More: https://webhome.phy.duke.edu/~schol/WWW_palindromes.txt
| commandlinefan wrote:
| Whoa... somebody tell me that was machine generated?
| branon wrote:
| I remember reading an article years ago (mid-2000s, must have
| been) about an entire book that used palindromes extensively. I
| believe it was sci-fi-adjacent, only thing I remember distinctly
| was something called "ylyly" in the book.
|
| Ylyly was a planet, I think. Haven't ever been able to find this
| again. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
| alexmolas wrote:
| Barry Duncan: I wrote a palindrome for a friend that's 800 words
| long.
|
| Peter Norvig: Hold my beer [1]
|
| [1]: https://norvig.com/palindrome.html
| onychomys wrote:
| For those who want to skip to the good part,
| https://norvig.com/pal3btxt.html
|
| (...I'm personally not at all sure that we should allow " a
| kCi," as part of the text, that's not a real word, it's a unit
| of measure!)
| LeifCarrotson wrote:
| I was a bit disappointed that Barry's article did not contain any
| palindromes itself. I tried to reverse it and scan for words
| which might form palindromes, but found only one real candidate
| with a manual search before I, an insufficiently
| skilled/trained/devoted reader, glazed over: busy, nay! from "any
| subject". I'll continue to work on my reading, but don't have
| much hope.
|
| Fortunately, I'm a programmer, so a quick script found the
| following words in the reversed text: name, mail, item, sign,
| both, cart, tell, arts, ever, unit, named, refer, demo, busy,
| rail, tube, semi, tons, tire, nuts, bare, tubes, rows, memo,
| stir, baton, verb, mania, erase, astro, carte, peek, warp, stub,
| veil, dime, carp, tyre.
|
| "Mania" from "remain a mystery" was the only notable find IMO.
| Sadly, that would be harder to turn into a palindrome, because
| "yretsy" is not a substring of anything. No deeper secrets seem
| to have been embedded.
|
| Reversed, the text is:
|
| > _elddimehtniteemlliwewtahttnedifnocmaignitirwruonokrowotsuwolla
| lliwdnagnidaerruoynokrowoteunitnoclliwuoyfithginrevoderiuqcatonsi
| ytilibisreverfoyretsamadnaenilpicsidgnitcaxenasignitirwemordnilap
| dnamednoemordnilapaesopmocotelbaebothtgnertsdnaytilitasrevfonoita
| nibmocrailucepasekattitcejbusynayllautrivnoetirwotytilibaehtsiedu
| titpaelbisrevernommocnufongiserusenodnagnirimdahtrowsitahtemordni
| lapaotniyalpdrowromsacrasromuhynoriecudortniothguonedetnelatsieno
| emosfitnemeveihcaelbatonasiesnessekamyltnetsisnoctahtemordnilapgi
| bacitoahcdnagnilwarpsotelbareferpsiesicnocdnakciuqezisstiybemordn
| ilapaegdujottonluferacebdluohsuoyelihwsecnetnestcerrocyllacitamma
| rgsniatnocemordnilapanehwdesserpmimailarutanerommeeslliwecnedacst
| irennigebafotahtnahtyklabsseldnarehtoomseblliwtsimordnilapdehsilp
| moccanafokrowehtylniatrecemordnilapafoytilauqehtenimretedewodwohd
| elaeverneebsahyretsymstiretfaneveuoyotyretsymaniameryamssecorpeht
| tahtrevewohdnimnipeekerewtisaeyeelbisreverahtiwhtrofdnakcabsemord
| nilapdaerotsisemordnilapetirwotgninraelrofdohtemevitceffeenoyawae
| cartelddimehtniteemkcabdnatnorftahteveilebtonnacylpmisdnaemordnil
| aplufretsamaybdennutsyletelpmocerauoyspahreptikcehcsyawhtobemaseh
| tsiyllaertitahterusekamottnawuoyeroferehtdnatnetepmocninaybnettir
| wsawgnidaererauoyemordnilapehttahttcepsusuoyspahrepsegatnavdalaci
| tcarpevahoslanacgnisreversihtesicrexelausivlatnemlufesuagniebotno
| itiddanidrawkcabdnadrawrofemordnilapadaerotuoyrofefasebdluohstiyt
| ilibisreverfoaediehthtiwelbatrofmocyllaniferauoynehwderreferpsyaw
| lasiegasudradnatstubesruocfosnoitamalcxetpurbadnasnoitaiverbbayol
| pmeotyrassecentidnifsemitemoslliwtsimordnilapdecneirepxenaneveelb
| issopsaegaugnalyadyreveotesolcsasitahtgnihtemosecudorpotebdluohsl
| aogstsimordnilapehtnoitautcnupcitarrednagnillepslausunusnoitamalc
| xeegnartssnuonreporpsnoitaiverbbafoesuehtybdekramnetfoerastroffey
| lraeesehtnrutdnatovipemordnilapehtgnittelfodaetsnielddimehtnignil
| buodfororrelatafraenehtsierehtemordnilapehtnisrettellatipacllaesu
| otnoisicedcitsilytsetanutrofnuehtsierehtstsimordnilapgninnigebybe
| damsekatsimehtfoemosezingocerotelbaebdluohsuoygniniartlamrofhcumo
| ottuohtiwdnimonmehtyapdemrofnisimeraelpoepesehtsnoitceridhtobniem
| asehtebtsumemordnilapaninoitautcnupehttahtnoisserpmiehtrednuerase
| mordnilapfosredaerecivonemosemoclliwemitehttiawdesufnocdnayzzidem
| ocebyamuoyelddimehtniteemyehtlitnusdnehtobgniwollofybdetacitsihpo
| sdnarevelcgnieberauoytahtgniknihtdrawkcabdnadrawroftignidaernotsi
| sniuoyfidrawroftidaersdrowrehtonieslegnihtynadaerdluowuoyyawehtem
| ordnilapadaeruoyevignaciecivdatsebehtsierehsemordnilapgnidaerotwe
| nerauoyfi_
|
| Can you see anything in that?
| jahsome wrote:
| There's a famous skateboard video part by Mark Suciu, Verso,
| which has been covered ad nauseum in skate circles.
|
| The video ends in a groundbreaking way with somewhat of a
| palindrome: a series of tricks, with each trick mirroring the one
| before it. He's gone on record stating it took about 2000
| attempts, more than two years, and resulted in numerous injuries.
|
| The final (and first!) trick of the sequence is among the
| simplest in skateboarding: a 50-50 grind.
|
| Final tricks in video parts-- "enders" in the lingua franca-- are
| traditionally reserved for extremely technical or groundbreaking
| tricks on unique or challenging obstacles. Enders are of high
| cultural significance, often analyzed and talked about for
| decades. A skater can quite literally make a career out of a good
| ender.
|
| In Verso, one of the most hyped videos of year, Suciu capped his
| run with a simple trick on an unassuming curb, and the skate
| community at large panned the part.
|
| That was until someone discovered (Or Mark had to explain) the
| mirrored sequence, and people began to dissect the part and
| reveal the brilliant nature of the performance.
|
| I'd struggle to articulate exactly how challenging the sequence
| was, and there are breakdown videos on youtube and comments
| littering the net who do it better anyhow.
| shostack wrote:
| This sounds really interesting but I know nothing about
| skating, the people, or this video. Any links that break it
| down?
| jahsome wrote:
| Here are a couple links. It may be a little heavy on the
| jargon, but Mark's explanation is fantastic, even for the
| layman.
|
| - Breaking down Mark Suciu's "Verso": https://andrew-
| hughes2012.medium.com/breaking-down-mark-suci...
|
| - Mark Suciu's "Verso" Part (note the highlighted comment
| which describes the main "controversial" sequence): https://w
| ww.youtube.com/watch?v=SlcxbZbHTj8&lc=UgwTbcW99Wm9Z...
|
| - Mark Suciu Explains His Verso Part and the 50-50 Ender:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w97Y06WACOE
| ronyeh wrote:
| https://jonagee.com/html/wp_books.php
|
| OTTO: a Palindrama
|
| Was the best book I've read to my kids this year.
|
| My 6 year old has been running around the house talking in
| palindrome. My mind was blown, and I had a few chuckles at some
| of the inventive palindromes. The story barely made sense, but it
| didn't matter. Highly recommended.
| turtlebits wrote:
| Agreed - Jon Agee has another palindrome book titled
| PALINDROMANIA! (that OTTO seems to be based on).
|
| Also spoonerisms are fun for kids too, Jon Agee has book of
| those and it's also great. Shel Silverstein has "Runny Babbit"
| (Goctor Doose always gets a chuckle out of me)
| agentwiggles wrote:
| I loved "Go Hang A Salami, I'm a Lasagna Hog" as a kid, learned
| lots of good ones from there.
|
| Another all time great, when it comes to media based around
| palindromes, is Weird Al's Bob Dylan style parody,
| palindromically titled: Bob.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUQDzj6R3p4
| pfdietz wrote:
| Aibohphobia: the fear of palindromes.
|
| Also: Weird Al's "Bob"
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUQDzj6R3p4
| TGRush wrote:
| Its funny how this is also a palindrome.
| throwamon wrote:
| I'm sure it was unintentional.
| jollyllama wrote:
| Then what will we call the fear of that little robot dog that
| Sony made?
| kleiba wrote:
| "Video unavailable. The uploader has not made this video
| available in your country."
| AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
| The entire song is made up of palindromes. It contains the
| following variation of the post title:
|
| Was it a car or a cat I saw?
| giardini wrote:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAfIikFnvuI
|
| works for me or Google for
|
| "Weird Al" Yankovic - Bob
| sciuromorpha_ wrote:
| This article has broken my brain. I read this and stared at
| it like "this isn't a palindrome? What are you on about?"
| Aaargh20318 wrote:
| This is not a palindrome: "waS I taC a tI saW"
|
| Whitespace and casing is significant.
| abecedarius wrote:
| Some people consider the redivision to add to the appeal. And
| sticking to "perfect palindromes", it's hard to get past the
| level of "POOP, OTTO, POOP".
|
| Em, no redivider on me!
| bombcar wrote:
| There are various palindrome words you can add to those, such
| as racecar.
|
| RACECAR POOP, OTTO, POOP RACECAR!
|
| My kids will love it.
| jahsome wrote:
| POOP is the world's shittiest palindrome.
| chipotle_coyote wrote:
| I believe you're confusing palindromes with Python. It's a
| common mistake.
| kleiba wrote:
| This calls for automatic generation with language models.
| abecedarius wrote:
| I'd like to see an interactive tool to help you compose them.
| My first cut at this was https://github.com/darius/js-
| playground/blob/master/palindro... (not currently online) but
| you could do more.
| asicsp wrote:
| Not sure about language models, but here's one generated
| programmatically: https://norvig.com/palindrome.html
| kleiba wrote:
| A language model could help to create text that's not so
| artificial, I would think.
| msravi wrote:
| There's a 14th century composition of, I think 40 verses or so in
| Sanskrit, that when read forwards relates events from the
| Ramayana and when read backwards, relates events from the
| Mahabharata. The musical notes to which it is set is also
| palindromic. Here's a video explaining one such verse:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4KuL_dUMZc
| alpple wrote:
| was it a car or a cat I saw?
| bitwize wrote:
| "Whether it's read straight or flipped, it's still Woo Young-woo.
| Kayak, deed, rotator, noon, racecar, Woo Young-woo."
| Stamp01 wrote:
| Go hang a salami. I'm a lasagna hog.
| variaga wrote:
| Doc, note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet
| on Cod.
| jhbadger wrote:
| Like Napoleon was said to have said in his exile (why in English
| and in a palindrome is never explained in the story) "Able was I
| ere I saw Elba".
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