[HN Gopher] Nabla - Isometric Color Font
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Nabla - Isometric Color Font
Author : ChrisArchitect
Score : 81 points
Date : 2022-10-20 16:05 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (nabla.typearture.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (nabla.typearture.com)
| tiagod wrote:
| The font displays fine but none of the sliders are working on
| Firefox mobile (nor the palette picker)
| pwinnski wrote:
| "Nabla is currently only supported in Chrome."
|
| Oh yay, another Google invention for the web that others now have
| to support or be accused of holding the web back. Is it Thursday
| already?
| alwillis wrote:
| Yes, unfortunately. WebKit's position on this font format:
| https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-March/031...
| pwinnski wrote:
| Myles @ WebKit seems to raise some excellent points, but I'm
| not up on browser internals. The criticism seem very much in
| line with my understanding of motives and incentives within
| Google, which leads to much duplication of effort.
|
| The Nabla web page makes it seem like "Finally! Color fonts!"
| while Myles @ WebKit makes it clear that "Many OT-SVG fonts
| already exist," which seems true[0].
|
| Sigh. I wish people viewed Google more accurately as breakers
| of web interoperability instead of praising the relentless
| Chrome hegemony.
|
| 0. https://helpx.adobe.com/fonts/using/ot-svg-color-
| fonts.html
| red_trumpet wrote:
| Firefox 106 seems to handle the font just fine. I also see the
| gradients, they claim to not work on Firefox yet. But yeah,
| that line at the bottom is a bit weird...
|
| [1] https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Nabla
| jfk13 wrote:
| The font _also_ contains SVG glyphs, in addition to the
| COLRv1 versions, and that 's what you're currently seeing in
| Firefox.
|
| Firefox 107 will introduce COLRv1 support, though at least as
| things stand now the SVG glyphs still take precedence (unless
| you disable that feature).
| TheRealPomax wrote:
| Not really? COLRv1 only officially landed in OpenType 1.9 with
| some changes slated for 1.9.1 - OpenType is a consortium
| consisting of _many_ players, none of them implementing things
| until the spec is actually official.
|
| Except, of course, when it's some company's own suggestion: MS
| will early-implement support for new features they themselves
| propose, Adobe will early-implement support for new features
| they themselves propose, and in this case Google's engineers
| had it implemented before it was officially accepted because
| they proposed it.
|
| Mozilla (and everyone else) waited until the draft become part
| of the spec, then had to spend the time implement a (non-
| trivially complex) new rendering pipeline, and make sure that
| works properly. COLRv1 fonts should work perfectly fine as of
| Firefox 107.
| habitue wrote:
| can confirm, this site works fine in Firefox. I can copy the
| colorful text and paste it as text
| boomskats wrote:
| I know this isn't the most constructive comment, but as a South
| Park fan, I will never not call this font NAMBLA[0]. I know what
| the nabla symbol is, I know it's completely unrelated. But it's
| just too damn close.
|
| [0]:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_As...
| nomel wrote:
| The fact that some of the letters are at different "depths" makes
| this hard on my eyes, since it gives an "impossible geometry"
| look. For three different depths, see Y (forward), N (middle),
| and M (back). Look at the bottom of the character. This seems to
| come from a requirement that the top and bottom of each letter is
| on the same horizontal line.
| fluoridation wrote:
| They're not at different depths. Lowercase y and lowercase g
| reach under the baseline, and so the corners you're looking at
| appear, in the projection, to be at a lower height than, say,
| lowercase s. I don't see anything about uppercase m that makes
| it appear in a different position.
| zhxshen wrote:
| dwringer wrote:
| Cool font, the topmost two banner examples are a little big for
| optimal legibility on my monitor though, and zooming in/out
| doesn't change the size (it does for the lower ones, though).
| Because it expands past my normal reading FOV I keep seeing it as
| "I Some Try" instead of "Isometry".
| username_exists wrote:
| Very cool
| jansan wrote:
| Pretty sweet. As I understand it appearance is simply changed by
| setting the _font-variation-settings_ and _font-palette_ CSS
| properties. Is that correct?
| jfk13 wrote:
| In principle, although the controls don't seem to be working
| for me at the moment (in either Firefox or Chrome). I guess
| it's a work-in-progress... (or maybe it's just me).
| nrabulinski wrote:
| It's only implemented in Chrome for now
| jfk13 wrote:
| COLRv1 is also supported in Firefox 107 (currently in
| beta).
|
| (Though in this case, the fact that the font also contains
| SVG glyphs gets in the way. Setting
| gfx.font_rendering.opentype_svg.enabled to false in
| about:config lets you see the COLRv1 glyphs.)
| jensenbox wrote:
| My Chrome kept "Aw Snapping" on this page. Is it just me?
|
| Error code: SIGILL
| wwwigham wrote:
| Nope, it's not just you! Happens reliably a little bit after
| page load for me, using Chrome on Android, too!
| sho_hn wrote:
| > Engineering > Just van Rossum
|
| Guido van Rossum's brother. He also designed the "Python powered"
| logo (and in his main career, had a hand in widely popular fonts
| like ITC Officina).
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| That's a wonderful logo.
|
| Only programming language I can think of with an instantly
| recognizable logo, other than Java
| Kwpolska wrote:
| I believe they are talking about this logo:
| https://i.imgur.com/2HaRHM7.png
|
| Not exactly iconic or wonderful.
| bdn_ wrote:
| There is this logo as well:
| https://www.python.org/static/community_logos/python-
| powered...
|
| Source: https://www.python.org/community/logos/
| Kwpolska wrote:
| That one wasn't designed by Just van Rossum.
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| ah, I was thinking of the blue and yellow double snake logo
| mminer237 wrote:
| Yeah, the double snake logo was made by Tim Parkin.
| orthoxerox wrote:
| > other than Java
|
| I never understood what that triangular clown was meant to
| be. Can't deny it's recognizable.
| bitwize wrote:
| In my headcanon Duke is a personified Ouija board planche.
| Just like the planche is the go-between for the user and
| the Ouija board, Duke is the go-between for the user and
| the tablet computer for which Java was originally designed.
|
| It might be a bit of a stretch, but he was originally more
| than a mascot but a "software agent" through which the
| user's actions were carried out, a sort of more active
| version of Clippy.
| Kwpolska wrote:
| An even more recognizable logo would be the coffee cup.
| imachine1980_ wrote:
| i'm disagreeing ruby, go, rust, this last two have both
| mascot and logo that are easy recognized
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| Swift.
| systemvoltage wrote:
| I love the python logo. It is not generic and stands out really
| well, especially in an era where logo design has regressed so
| much.
| glasshug wrote:
| Lovely design and nice engineering!
|
| I do worry about how heavy the OpenType spec is getting.
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