[HN Gopher] My PhD Genealogy
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My PhD Genealogy
Author : hkc
Score : 61 points
Date : 2022-10-19 20:08 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| seydor wrote:
| Academia is not that big, is quite incestuous, and such trees or
| descent are not rare. I think there was a website that listed
| people's academic family
|
| here is one for neuroscience: https://neurotree.org/neurotree/
| kragen wrote:
| I spent some time in 02016 digging through different sorts of
| academic lineages. It turns out, for example, that you can also
| trace Leibniz back to Copernicus:
| https://dercuano.github.io/notes/academic-lineage.html
|
| Thrun's page seems to have an error about Leibniz: "Gottfried
| Wilhelm Leibniz 1966, 1967, 1976"
|
| It would be nice to be able to trace figures like al-Tusi back to
| Plato and Imhotep, to know if there really was an unbroken line
| of personal mentorship the way there is in the Buddhist lineages,
| or if at some point the oral line was severed. Perhaps during the
| Roman rampages through Greece, the line of transmission of
| philosophy only survived in Alexandria, or less plausibly,
| somewhere in India, only to resurface in Arabia while Europe was
| sunken into its Dark Ages. Or perhaps it had to be recovered from
| the few manuscripts the Christians hadn't yet recycled into
| hymnals, like the Archimedes Palimpsest.
|
| We know that somewhere between Eudoxus and Galileo the idea of
| freely postulated axiom systems was lost, and it was not really
| fully rediscovered until the 19th century.
| bgriirtuh wrote:
| Can you provide a reference for the claim that the concept of a
| freely postulated axiom system was implicit in Eudoxus? I'm
| very curious!
|
| I assume the 19th century rediscovery you refer to was Boole,
| Hamilton et al and their work in logic and the beginnings of
| abstract algebra.
| languageserver wrote:
| no where on the site does it tell us that a lineage actually
| is. Does it mean that the mathematicians knew eachoter? that
| they adviced? cited?
| ghufran_syed wrote:
| usually it means that the "parent" was a phd supervisor for
| the "child" researcher who studied for a PhD under that
| supervisor
| telotortium wrote:
| I feel that the possibility of tracing academic lineage back to
| antiquity in the West is very dim, for the same reason that
| tracing descent from antiquity[0] in Europe has proven
| impossible - too few records survived. Even in the Catholic
| Church, the longest unbroken chain (i.e., for which records
| survive) of apostolic succession (i.e., which bishop
| consecrated each bishop) goes only back to the 1400s with
| Guillaume d'Estouteville, even though France in the 1400s was
| long after the Dark Ages and many records survive from the High
| Middle Ages onward.
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_antiquity [1]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_d%27Estouteville
| tim_hutton wrote:
| > "02016"
|
| Thank you for preparing for the Y10K problem.
| thedailymail wrote:
| Leibniz - Bernoulli - Bernoulli - Euler - LaGrange was a pretty
| good run!
| lpolovets wrote:
| I started browsing https://www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/
| after reading this post. Some of the genealogies are wildly
| impressive. For example:
|
| https://www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=38586
|
| Bernoulli -> Euler -> Lagrange -> Poisson and Fourier
| dekhn wrote:
| He just needs to make a movie with Kevin Bacon and publish with
| Erdos to round things out.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s%E2%80%93Bacon_numbe...
| melling wrote:
| Erdos has been reading Proofs from the Book for a couple
| decades, and is unable to publish.
|
| Perhaps some of these people are available:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_by_Erdos_number
| uptownfunk wrote:
| This makes me want to get a PhD to join the family.
| breck wrote:
| Here are some simple visualizations of this data:
| https://gist.github.com/breck7/b88155a58cbf83d32283b9ea50bf8...
| josters wrote:
| I really like the simplicity of this.
|
| I suppose this was done by hand. Having such an overview while
| doing the research would be really beneficial for discovering
| novel ideas and connections. I haven't come across such a tool as
| of yet.
| motoboi wrote:
| I would love to have an ideas and people genealogy where you
| can select a thinker like Rousseau and have a graph of the main
| ideas in his works and their predecessors.
|
| Think about his amour de soi. Did it existed previously
| anywhere else? Who talked about something similar earlier?
|
| I'd die for something like that.
| johndbeatty wrote:
| I wanted something like this as well, and I have a prototype
| of something much simpler (using node2vec to generate
| embeddings using data from Wikidata and DBpedia (and
| Twitter)). It doesn't really do what you want, but you might
| find it interesting.
|
| Rousseau:
| https://pov.is/e/93f9822c-1ed8-4bc9-aec9-064e7bb6807c Amour
| de soi: https://pov.is/e/82e9f674-ebbf-4c36-b225-ec1653ce3367
|
| You can go backwards and forwards in time using by-year view
| (though missing data in Wikidata makes this a bit difficult):
| https://pov.is/e/93f9822c-1ed8-4bc9-aec9-064e7bb6807c?i=Q5&o.
| ..
| basementcat wrote:
| Much of this information is available from the Mathematics
| Geneology Project.
| https://www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=100193
| ray__ wrote:
| There is academictree.org, which provides "academic genealogy"
| for quite a few disciplines-is this the type of tool you're
| looking for?
| biomcgary wrote:
| Thank you! I had never looked up my academic genealogy
| before, which includes Rosalind Franklin, Linus Pauling, and
| Michael Polanyi.
| searine wrote:
| https://academictree.org/flytree/ does something similar for
| genetics or the base site for dozens of other disciplines.
| laurentoget wrote:
| we are cousins!
| mandevil wrote:
| You can really see the results of the ebbs and flows of
| generations in this genealogy. The massive post-war three part
| economic, technological, and population booms just jumps out of
| this data. Ph.D's granted in this genalogy, per decade. 1870's: 1
| 1880's: 2 1890's: 0 1900's: 3 1910's: 0 (they were fighting a
| war, no time for dissertations) 1920's: 2 1930's: 2 1940's: 1
| (They were fighting a war, no time for dissertations) 1950's: 0
| (Baby bust from the great depression) 1960's: 4 (The intra-war
| and postwar kids, with funding and jobs) 1970's: 2 1980's: 0 (Too
| soon to be have their own students for a 1995 Ph.D)
| etrautmann wrote:
| The field of Neuroscience tends to track lineages with
| Neurotree.org
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