[HN Gopher] Signal is testing "stories" feature
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       Signal is testing "stories" feature
        
       Author : dijit
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2022-10-15 18:53 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | anthonyaykut wrote:
       | Man, does _everything_ need likes, hearts, stories and other
       | unnecessary baggage? I am happy with just one spartan, minimalist
       | safe messaging app that does not have any of these and I 'm happy
       | to pay for it as well.
        
       | djohnston wrote:
       | PMs never get promoted for saying "Yeah the product is solid we
       | don't need any more features."
        
       | webmobdev wrote:
       | The idea being to create a social network to attract those who
       | have been avoiding FB, so that their personal data can be
       | datamined too? Folks, please don't forget that when a product
       | that requires an infrastructure that costs money is offered free,
       | your personal data is what's monetising it - whether it be Signal
       | or Proton (though in Proton's case, they do have a business model
       | with non-free services that may be commercially viable).
        
         | permo-w wrote:
         | as far as I know Signal is owned by a non-profit foundation
        
           | nullc wrote:
           | My understanding is that Signal is monetized through the
           | premined cryptocurrency they integrated which isn't owned by
           | the non-profit but by the people directing it.
        
       | aaron695 wrote:
        
       | pastrami_panda wrote:
       | So they're removing the SMS feature but adding Stories? Sounds
       | like we know where this is gonna end up.
        
         | climb_stealth wrote:
         | I wonder how many use Signal as their default sms app on
         | Android. I have been doing so since the start and thought it
         | was seamleas and amazing. Including the feature for message
         | delivery confirmation. The announcement in the app hit me
         | completely unprepared. We can't have nice things anymore.
         | 
         | Stories sounds nice as a feature. It doesn't take away
         | anything. But dropping sms support makes me bitter. I haven't
         | found a replacement yet so happy to hear recommendations.
        
           | wingmanjd wrote:
           | I used to use Signal as my default SMS app (and would prefer
           | to have kept it that way), but I would occasionally miss
           | texts. They typically were group MMS ones, so I split them
           | back out.
        
           | nvllsvm wrote:
           | I too was using SMS in Signal, but only because it was
           | slightly better that the default in GrapheneOS.
           | 
           | That said, I thought it still sucked. Sharing a photo from
           | another app only showed a list of Signal chats and my
           | contacts - with existing SMS chats being absent. There was
           | also no way to bulk delete messages - which was particularly
           | annoying when clearing out the countless Doordash messages I
           | get.
           | 
           | Kind of glad they're altogether scrapping SMS support.
           | Hopefully a better, dedicated app will appear to take it's
           | place as an open source SMS app.
           | 
           | It also allows me to reevaluate whether I even want to
           | consider using Signal since I only talk to two people on it
           | anyway.
        
             | climb_stealth wrote:
             | Hah, good point about reevaluating. I too have only two
             | people that I talk to via Signal itself. It's going to look
             | quite empty in the app. But then that's the way it is for
             | iOS as well. Oh well.
             | 
             | Same on LineageOS. The default sms app is pretty terrible.
        
         | 1MachineElf wrote:
         | Maybe Signal should split into two apps. One keeps SMS for
         | their large Android userbase. The other goes on to become a
         | privacy-respecting TikTok/Snapchat clone. The world needs both
         | of these.
         | 
         | Had Signal been a decentralized service, maybe it would be
         | possible to have both in tandem. The centralized nature of
         | Signal is partly to blame for the fact that it's controlled by
         | a development team who can and will piss off what may be the
         | majority of their users. They have a lot to say about the
         | beautiful simplicity of their protocol, so I'm skeptical of
         | their arguments that it cannot continue coexisting with
         | something like SMS.
         | 
         | After this betrayal, it is foolish to continue putting faith in
         | the Signal team. Continuing to be a user is an endorsement of
         | their pulling the rug from under us. Searching for suitable
         | alternatives, and there are many candidates, is high on my
         | priority list.
        
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       | manuw wrote:
       | The only thing I want are "usernames" and not the binding to a
       | mobile number.
        
       | Nextgrid wrote:
       | As a counterpoint to the (nevertheless valid) comments out here,
       | I'd personally like a product that offers "stories" and other
       | social-media-like features that's privacy respecting and not
       | based on advertising and stealing personal information.
       | 
       | Should it be in Signal itself? Maybe not. But I'd love a Snapchat
       | equivalent (or similar social media product) from the makers of
       | Signal that doesn't stalk its users.
        
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