[HN Gopher] Tell HN: Reddit started asking logged-in users to us...
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Tell HN: Reddit started asking logged-in users to use the app
The "new" Reddit mobile web interface got worse (again). I'm logged
in and now every time I open the webpage I'm asked if I want to
"continue in browser" or "open in app (recommended)". I don't have
the app installed and I don't want such dark patterns force me to
install it. Previously that happened only to unregistered users.
Author : agluszak
Score : 57 points
Date : 2022-10-14 11:18 UTC (11 hours ago)
| luuuzeta wrote:
| Aside from niche subs or subs that aren't easily politicized due
| to their nature, Reddit is trash.
|
| https://teddit.net/ is a must if you want to browse Reddit on
| mobile. Also https://old.reddit.com/ although it doesn't work as
| well on mobile.
| [deleted]
| easrng wrote:
| https://farside.link/libreddit is closer to the new reddit
| layout if you like that (it's better for browsing image/video
| heavy subreddits imo)
| nluken wrote:
| I always laugh when I see the huge "USE NEW REDDIT" header when
| I'm not logged into old reddit. I will stop using reddit if
| they ever force me onto the new interface.
| gorgabal wrote:
| I never figured out how to login on teddit. Do you need to host
| your own instance or something?
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| Always has! Well for a few years anyway
| agluszak wrote:
| For logged in users? I started having this problem now. For not
| logged in - yup, it's been there since the redesign
| M2Ys4U wrote:
| Yeah, I've had this (very annoying) prompt when logged in for
| a long time now
| agluszak wrote:
| But there was an option to disable them
| more_corn wrote:
| Until yesterday there was a setting to disable the mobile app
| nag.
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| Alas I didn't know that. Why they didn't go for the more
| obvious "don't ask again" on the nag I don't know.
| alpentmil wrote:
| for android use RedReader - opensource - lightweight (in
| PlayStore)
| napolux wrote:
| for iOS Apollo is the answer.
| criticas wrote:
| I love Apollo, but it's not a complete answer. If you attempt
| to visit an 18+ reddit on mobile, it will redirect you to
| either HOME or Reddit's official client. Not the "iOS App
| you've selected for Reddit", the official Reddit App.
| [deleted]
| ThePowerOfFuet wrote:
| You have it misconfigured; check the NSFW option in reddit
| web's preferences.
| julianlam wrote:
| Better than rif is fun?
| greazy wrote:
| Very frustrating they removed the setting to turn off that
| annoying notification.
|
| But I'm not surprised. Reddit is trash
| rchaud wrote:
| No different from any other social media site that needs to
| track logged-in users to show them ads.
|
| Reddit is great, the business model around it is trash.
| iwillbenice wrote:
| > Reddit is great
|
| By what standard? Every non-technology subreddit (and a few
| tech ones) have turned into absolute echo-chamber dumpster
| fires. There is absolutely no conversation occurring in those
| echo-chambers. The level of control and removal of dissenting
| opinions is ridiculous. Just look at any thread and note all
| the [REMOVED] posts.
| RockRobotRock wrote:
| As if HN isn't a gigantic echo chamber filled with a very
| similar demographic of people to Reddit? Just like any
| social media site, there is a lot of good and a lot of bad.
| StanislavPetrov wrote:
| The big difference is that HN has a competent, paid
| moderator that moderates almost entirely according to a
| set straightforward, transparent rules. Reddit is
| "moderated" by a collection of volunteers who moderate
| according to vague, arbitrary "standards" that largely
| hinge on the cultural and political beliefs of the
| moderator and on astroturfers trying to control
| narratives.
| rjh29 wrote:
| 'Every' is a bit of an overstatement. I subscribe to about
| 100 subs and they are all non-political and not echo
| chambers at all. I mostly stick to subs with <300k users
| and many of them only allow text-based posts and promote
| balanced discussions. It all depends on who is moderating.
|
| If I feel like a sub is starting to turn bad I just leave.
| There are hundreds of new interesting subs being created
| every week. THERE is where the value is.
|
| 99% of everything is crap - that truth holds everywhere -
| you just have to find the 1% that's worth it. For that 1%,
| there really isn't any other site with that level of
| discussion and community. For sure some Discords offer it,
| but I much prefer the forum format.
|
| Here are some examples that I like personally. You should
| of course find your own.
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/howdidtheycodeit/ - people ask how
| stuff in games was coded
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/ArchitecturalRevival/ - photos of
| horrible modern buildings being replaced with beautiful
| older-style ones
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/etymologymaps/ - maps showing how
| languages evolve
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/ - people asking
| what random items are
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/ATBGE/ - things that are ugly but
| show incredible technical or artistic skill
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/ - people asking
| about memes/happenings that you might have missed, and
| providing excellent summaries
|
| + your niche subs for your local area / favourite TV show /
| musical instrument / sport etc, although some can be a bit
| too 'echo chambery' if too large.
| [deleted]
| rchaud wrote:
| By the standard of entertainment value.
|
| Reddit is a big site with a diverse age distribution and an
| Eternal September cycle of user churn.
|
| I have no interest in YouTuber drama, or discussing the
| finer points of communism v fascism because I've already
| gone through that phase of my life (freshman year). Maybe
| that's why I don't see all the [removed] comments; I'm just
| not on those boards.
| iwillbenice wrote:
| I'm not sure what you mean by "those boards", but the
| mass redaction and removal of comments is a site-wide
| thing at this point. It isn't unique to a certain type of
| community, demographic, or interest.
| rchaud wrote:
| It absolutely is not. Maybe on a thread about The Little
| Mermaid and whatever other culture war nonsense topic
| grown adults bicker about, but I don't see anything like
| that on r/webdev, r/android, r/buttcoin or other popular
| subs.
| iwillbenice wrote:
| I'm not purposely trying to be adversarial with you, but
| you listed 3 technology subreddits as examples, when my
| original comment was referencing non-technology
| subreddits.
|
| To the point of bickering - that's human nature. I expect
| humans to argue over the shade of blue, sneakers of the
| month, or whatever. What I don't expect humans to do is
| regress mentally to some child-like viewpoint of erasing
| and censoring any opposing viewpoints.
|
| Reddit is radically different than it was 10 years, and
| not in a healthy, engaging way. Browse some non-
| technology subreddits and you will quickly spot the echo-
| chamber effect and group think in action.
| RockRobotRock wrote:
| corgihamlet wrote:
| I would have said (amateur) porn, but fetish-specific
| subreddits are now rampant with girls promoting their
| OnlyFans with the same post repeating over and over again.
| Nothing like the wild days of /r/gonewild.
| jasec57322 wrote:
| For many searches I use site:reddit.com, because Google's
| results have declined massively since the easy-days of
| 2015; Reddit has a large userbase and I can find what I'm
| looking for most of the time much quicker by appending
| site:reddit.com than wasting my time with the sponsored-
| blogs on Google.
|
| If anybody knows of any better forum/site for this, I'd
| like to know. (Currently I use Google/DuckDuckGO,
| Wikipedia, Reddit & hackernews, libgen/z-lib, some torrent
| sites, and some niche wikis & forums to find what I'm
| looking for).
| BrotherBisquick wrote:
| > Reddit is great
|
| If you like men in dresses standing on your neck.
| hacym wrote:
| I've had this pop up for like a year.
| hallway_monitor wrote:
| I gave up and installed the app. Still holding out on Facebook
| even though the web version on mobile is pretty bad.
| luuuzeta wrote:
| >I gave up and installed the app.
|
| If you've to use an app, then go for a third-party app such as
| RedReader, Dawn for Reddit, Relay, etc.
| more_corn wrote:
| Never give up
| dewey wrote:
| I have had that for a year at least. The only way to use Reddit
| for me is Apollo on iOS.
| dartharva wrote:
| Use third party FOSS Reddit apps that don't have original
| Reddit's garbage gimmicks - Boost, Infinity, Dawn, RedReader,
| Slide, Diode, Stealth, etc.
| egberts1 wrote:
| bye Reddit.
| FunnyBadger wrote:
| more_corn wrote:
| Just delete your account and add them to your pihole blacklist.
| Your life will improve dramatically.
| 1_1xdev wrote:
| Even if you have the app installed, the link to open in app just
| opens the app store. What a dumpster fire of a mobile web
| experience.
| thanatos519 wrote:
| I don't have that problem on https://i.reddit.com/
| pier25 wrote:
| It's amazing that this old and ugly app feels better than the
| React SPA monstrosity they have as the official mobile site.
| sam0x17 wrote:
| It's done this for like 5 years AFAIK, at least for me
| ridgered4 wrote:
| Me as well. It has steadily gotten more aggressive though,
| recently becoming so bad I finally switched to using teddit.
| smileysteve wrote:
| It had a setting to turn this off until this week.
| more_corn wrote:
| Great reason for everyone to delete their accounts and bam
| Reddit from your home network.
| marcusverus wrote:
| How would you go about banning a site on your home network?
| Pi-hole?
| sidcool wrote:
| Reddit has been trying to make me login and install app since
| years. Everytime it asks more than once, I close the webpage.
| It's helping my Reddit addiction and I have been avoiding it for
| years now.
| themadturk wrote:
| Most of my Redditing is on Narwhal on iOS. Never could learn to
| enjoy Apollo.
| _tom_ wrote:
| How much more money is an app user worth, compared to a web user?
|
| It must be substantial, as sites like yelp are actually unusable
| on mobile web, as they constantly try to install the app.
|
| It seems like it's better to lose a customer than to have them on
| web.
| spinlock wrote:
| Being on the homescreen increases DAU/MAU by about 50%.
|
| Push notifications increase DAU/MAU by multiples.
|
| Those are the killer features for social media.
|
| I'd also assume that the walled garden of the app store cuts
| down on a lot of bots/other shenanigans going on.
| jasec57322 wrote:
| Installed apps have lots more stable monetisation options (e.g:
| getting paid to load an sdk which runs a proxy), and not to
| mention they can more easily scoop-up alot more data.
|
| Most of the claims companies like Reddit make about
| security/anti-spam benefits is simply not true. Once you
| require user to create an account/login it makes no real
| difference. Everything you need for the frontend can be done
| with JS, HTML & CSS, and the apps themselves on ios/android are
| nearly-always just that.
|
| As for losing customers, I need to use Reddit to make Google
| effective - and Reddit knows this. They have a massive amount
| of power to force mobile users to use an app if they wish to.
| Given it comes with massive revenue-potential, why wouldn't
| they?
| theknocker wrote:
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