[HN Gopher] The Palm Court $30 burger tastes like the death of S...
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       The Palm Court $30 burger tastes like the death of San Francisco
        
       Author : rmason
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2022-10-13 18:59 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | jmull wrote:
       | This sounds like a good thing to me.
       | 
       | Sometimes you need to go to a fancy restaurant. This place seems
       | to have made it possible to get a good burger while you're at it.
       | Everybody wins?
        
       | baybal2 wrote:
        
       | bdbenton wrote:
       | The final stage of gentrification is the buying up of homes as
       | pure investment properties by corporate and financial entities.
       | 
       | This is why housing is unafforable in LA, greedy landlords,
       | especially the corporate variety. It's why the streets are filled
       | with homeless in the largest cities of California.
       | 
       | First, it's white collar workers replacing blue collar workers.
       | Then, it's vast numbers of empty homes and homeless people side-
       | by-side.
       | 
       | This is what happens when the wealth gap grows without ceasing,
       | the financial industry is the largest in the world.
       | 
       | It is not wholly bad to see my home state of Texas ascend as a
       | tech hub, but California is still a part of the USA.
       | 
       | In many countries, corporate investment of residential homes is
       | illegal. I still care about California, and if you guys want to
       | keep it from steering towards a dystopian technocratic nightmare,
       | you need to reign in corporate real estate investing and
       | monopolistic practices from tech employers.
       | 
       | What is the point of a high SF tech salary if living expenses
       | just do not make logical sense? What about the blue collar
       | workers who make the city run? It's materialistic and self-
       | cannabilizing. Billionaires among record-breaking homeless
       | populations.
       | 
       | Don't think the liberal party is that different from the
       | conservative party, both are beholden to the wealthy class. No
       | matter the ruling party, it takes everyday people working
       | together to make a real change. Real communities working together
       | to solve problems.
       | 
       | People solve problems, politicians are just puppets for corporate
       | interest. We are the people. Stand up for your rights and
       | challenge authority, or it will just keep going this direction.
        
         | strikelaserclaw wrote:
         | we should have laws that heavily regulate using homes as
         | investment vehicles unless we want to become china 2.0.
        
       | yawnxyz wrote:
       | That looks like some stuffed up IKEA + food court. I can't
       | imagine spending $30 for that kind of ambiance, instead of on a
       | very high quality burger. The entire thing feels like "children
       | pretending to be fancy rich adults".
        
       | odysseus wrote:
       | I kinda want that burger. Even if, like the author, I'd feel very
       | out of place walking into such an establishment.
       | 
       | Bet this article is going to draw a lot of people to RH.
        
       | rmason wrote:
       | Have to admit to you there's things done on the West coast that
       | folks in the Midwest are first agog and then find extremely
       | hilarious and this is a perfect example.
       | 
       | Now there's a Restoration Hardware in Detroit and friends
       | restoring houses there recommend it highly. But if someone was to
       | put a fancy restaurant inside and featured a $30 burger it would
       | be talked about long after it was gone.
       | 
       | Millers Bar in the nearby Detroit suburb of Dearborn routinely
       | makes top ten lists of the best burger in America and it doesn't
       | cost half that amount. Millers Bar isn't a fancy place, the
       | burgers come on waxed paper and you've got to ask the waiter for
       | a glass with your beer if you want one. I wouldn't be shocked to
       | find out that Bob Segar, Jeff Daniels or Eminem are regulars
       | there but I've never spotted them.
        
         | joezydeco wrote:
         | Chicago has two RHs with restaurants in them and, as far as I
         | can tell, nobody is that up in arms about them. They're upscale
         | _furniture stores_ and they 're in upscale neighborhoods (gold
         | coast and oakbrook).
         | 
         | I've eaten at RH and I've eaten at IKEA. Same goals as far as I
         | can see it.
        
           | pxmpxm wrote:
           | The Chicago one had about an hour wait to get seated for
           | saturday brunch; clearly those burgers should be selling for
           | way more than $30.
        
       | UncleOxidant wrote:
       | Hasn't this sort of thing been going on in SF for quite a while
       | now?
        
       | deleted_account wrote:
       | The more interesting story is RH combining high-end home decor
       | and...restaurants? (And jets, and yachts?)[1] As for the death of
       | San Francisco, The Ramp is in spitting distance, so if you find
       | yourself at the Palm Court you might have nobody to blame but
       | yourself.
       | 
       | [1]https://rh.com/restaurants, https://rh.com/one,
       | https://rh.com/three
        
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       | tqi wrote:
       | Actually the inability to deal with obvious issues like this one
       | seems more like the death of San Francisco:
       | 
       | https://sfist.com/2022/10/13/glen-park-rat-infestations-bein...
        
       | calrueb wrote:
       | I feel like this article is making a bigger deal out of Palm
       | Court than need be. I have been there; yes, if you do any
       | research at all you know your getting ripped off on food prices.
       | But for a date night of just wandering around the show rooms, and
       | then getting some food it was a good time. SF isn't dying.
        
       | msarrel wrote:
       | I think he's dead right in this article. I noticed when I moved
       | from New York to San Francisco about 5 years ago that the
       | emphasis of "fine dining" is price and exclusivity, not quality.
       | It's as if people only know something tastes good because they
       | paid $30 for it.
        
         | smackeyacky wrote:
         | The $30 isn't for the food, it's to make sure you don't have to
         | interact with "those" people i.e. the poors.
        
         | acchow wrote:
         | I feel the opposite. It's easy to find quality food made with
         | quality ingredients in San Francisco
        
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