[HN Gopher] Scientists are finding fungi in cancerous tumors
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Scientists are finding fungi in cancerous tumors
Author : gmays
Score : 77 points
Date : 2022-10-10 16:26 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com)
| dominotw wrote:
| Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth? (nature.com)
| - 82 comments
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| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33133477
| kkoncevicius wrote:
| As far as I can gather from reading this - contamination cannot
| be ruled out.
| dominotw wrote:
| > Although the researchers developed methods to filter any
| potential contaminants out of the sequencing data, she would
| like to see the results replicated using samples taken in a
| sterile environment.
| solmanac wrote:
| I'm going to assume they are fighting the tumors and take it as a
| sign to increase my dosages of reishi and chaga powders.
| black_puppydog wrote:
| Feed the chaganaut!
| riskcomplex wrote:
| This isn't terribly surprising since one of the first things a
| cancerous tumor does (often) is create an "cold" immune
| environment to evade detection by the hosts immune system. This
| is why certain infections can actually kill a tumor: no immune
| system to kill the new pathogen and it ends up destroying the
| cancerous cells.
| hanniabu wrote:
| This supports the thesis that cancer can be a byproduct of your
| microbiome
| mbreese wrote:
| _> Bhatt tells Nature News that the researchers took most of
| their samples from databases that didn't aim to minimize fungal
| contamination during collection. So, she'd like to see if other
| studies can get the same results with samples taken in a sterile
| environment. _
|
| For me, this is the real question. I expect for a certain level
| of bacterial and fungal contamination in sequencing experiments.
| Hell, I've even seen sequencing reads contaminated by the
| sequencing facility and not from tissue collection lab.
| hondo77 wrote:
| Great./s Now the people who told me that drinking baking soda in
| water would cure my cancer "because cancer is a fungus" are going
| to go wild over this.
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| anthk wrote:
| Some Spanish "magufo" (think of Alex Jones but without the far
| right ideology and being a fake practicioner) are like that,
| search for Pamies in Google/DDG. I'm worried about the reaction
| from these snake-oil scammers, too.
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| EDIT: I found an article in English:
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| https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/18/inenglish/15398...
| clumsysmurf wrote:
| Something similar to this was recently found in the mouth
|
| "Across-kingdom partnership between bacteria and fungi can result
| in the two joining to form a "superorganism"
|
| ...
|
| They were stickier, more resistant to antimicrobials, and more
| difficult to remove from teeth than either the bacteria or the
| fungi alone
|
| ...
|
| What's more, the assemblages unexpectedly sprout "limbs" that
| propel them to "walk" and "leap" to quickly spread on the tooth
| surface, despite each microbe on its own being non-motile"
|
| https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/microbes-cause-cavities-can...
| nomel wrote:
| They also sometimes test delicious:
| https://asm.org/Articles/2020/June/The-Sourdough-Microbiome
| pazimzadeh wrote:
| That is really cool. Reminds of this paper:
|
| Swimming bacteria promote dispersal of non-motile
| staphylococcal species
| https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28398350/
| formerkrogemp wrote:
| Lycan is also an assemblage of fungi and cyanobacteria or algae
| if I'm not mistaken..
| cossatot wrote:
| Lichen are. (Lycan are werewolves I think.)
| _dain_ wrote:
| I told you people not to turn your back on fungi and you didn't
| listen. now look what they're doing
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31197031
| macawfish wrote:
| Are there not also sometimes fungi in non-cancerous human
| tissues?
| wil421 wrote:
| There are around 50 fungi in our guts alone[1].
|
| >Mahmoud Ghannoum, Ph.D., an NIH-funded researcher since 1993,
| who's spent his career studying fungi in the body (there are
| about 50 different species living in our gut specifically). Dr.
| Ghannoum is credited with uncovering the significant interplay
| between bacteria and fungi, which affects the critical balance
| of the body's microbiome. (Much of this interaction occurs at a
| digestive plaque wall that Ghannoum discovered with his
| research team at Case Western Reserve University in 2016.)
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| [1] https://goop.com/wellness/health/new-in-gut-health-fungis-
| im...
| jjtheblunt wrote:
| definitely are (athlete's foot, ringworm, candida, ...)
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