[HN Gopher] Canonical Launches Ubuntu Pro
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Canonical Launches Ubuntu Pro
Author : ShowalkKama
Score : 35 points
Date : 2022-10-08 20:37 UTC (2 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (ubuntu.com)
| unpopularopp wrote:
| wow just had a daily apt-get update/upgrade and got a Pro ad in
| the terminal, pretty crazy https://files.catbox.moe/bzqkry.png
| superkuh wrote:
| For all I disagree with canonical's desktop decisions their long
| term support of their distro is currently unmatched. You can't
| get 10 years anywhere else.
|
| Canonical's (free!) Extended Service Maintainance (ESM) program
| has been extremely valuable to me for the last decade. They still
| support security updates on Ubuntu 14.04 (April 2014) till 2024.
| Hopefully this rebranding of parts of ESM won't change that
| support.
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| > You can't get 10 years anywhere else.
|
| That's been Red Hat's thing since forever. And Rocky is free.
| gw99 wrote:
| They'll hire all Rocky contributors in under 3 years and turn
| it into a rolling distribution.
|
| That's how Redhat works.
| stonogo wrote:
| You can't get ten years from Canonical, either. I've been
| burned by drivers being dropped from LTS support mid-cycle.
| Sure, they were obscure drivers, probably with few users. I'm
| not saying the decision didn't make business sense. But I'll
| never rely on an Ubuntu LTS again.
| Wronnay wrote:
| Why should any company buy this? Does that mean, that these
| security updates are exclusive to Ubuntu Pro and everybody else
| won't get Vulnerabilities fixed?
|
| Aren't security upgrades anyway getting deployed - I mean, if
| Canonical would hold bug fixes for Vulnerabilities back, then
| obviously the community would switch to a different Linux Distro?
|
| Especially this sentence makes me wondering: "Many zero-day
| vulnerabilities addressed under embargo, with critical CVEs
| patched in less than 24h on average"
|
| => This sounds like Canonical holds back zero-day vulnerabilities
| for not-paying users!
| fulafel wrote:
| Souns like it's security updates for otherwise out of support
| versions, 16.04, like MS sells (sold?) for Windows XP.
| nicce wrote:
| Hopefully it just means extended duration for getting patches.
| If not... yikes.
| akdor1154 wrote:
| From TFA:
|
| > Ubuntu Pro expands security coverage for critical, high and
| medium Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVEs) to thousands
| of applications and toolchains, including Ansible, Apache
| Tomcat, Apache Zookeeper, Docker, Drupal, Nagios, Node.js,
| phpMyAdmin, Puppet, PowerDNS, Python 2, Redis, Rust, WordPress,
| and more.
|
| So sounds like coverage of a bunch of stuff in their Universe
| repository that is not part of the base system.
|
| Though I found my own thing to whinge about, on
| https://ubuntu.com/security:
|
| > Ubuntu [...] includes access to:
|
| > - ...
|
| > - Knowledge Base: a private archive of expert-written
| articles and tutorials
|
| Wait what?
| emj wrote:
| > > - Knowledge Base: a private archive
|
| Common thing for enterprise customers, I can not speak for
| Ubuntu but usually they are private because they are filled
| with bad articles and tutorials that no one would pay for.
| Sounds good though.
| alpaca128 wrote:
| Apparently they also launched pretty horrible cookie popup dark
| patterns. Come on Canonical, even Google learned to do it
| properly by now.
| stjohnswarts wrote:
| what cookie popup dark pattern are you referring to? I didn't
| see any popups.
| ginko wrote:
| So Debian?
| esbeeb wrote:
| I'm using Linux Mint Debian Edition 5, and recommend it. It has
| the deep sensibility of Linux Mint, but it's _not_ based off
| Ubuntu. The Cinnamon desktop in LMDE5 has much more polish than
| Debian 11's Cinnamon desktop, which I also tried and hated
| within 2 hours (the user management - namely adding additional
| users who don't inherit the group memberships they sensibly
| should - is hot garbage).
| gfaster wrote:
| I'm personally still upset that they made all the ubuntu-
| advantage software a) come preinstalled b) making it impossible
| to uninstall because it's a dependency of ubuntu-minimal[1]
|
| [1]: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntu-minimal
| osigurdson wrote:
| I don't understand why they don't make the default Ubuntu theme a
| bit nicer. It seems that they would merely have to hire a single
| designer to improve this materially.
| echelon wrote:
| I would pay for this.
|
| If they could get rid of the slow LibreOffice garbage and make
| the audio / video system more stable, I'd pay a monthly fee.
|
| I would pay for Firefox too.
| beermonster wrote:
| What is it you think could be improved ?
| micromacrofoot wrote:
| what's not nice about it specifically
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