[HN Gopher] Interactive Submarine Cable Map
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Interactive Submarine Cable Map
Author : gnososphere
Score : 126 points
Date : 2022-10-06 16:35 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.submarinecablemap.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.submarinecablemap.com)
| RyanShook wrote:
| If you want to learn more about the first transatlantic cable
| check out How the World Was One by Arthur C. Clarke. Reading it
| now and really enjoying it: https://amzn.to/3EiACjU
| jaffee wrote:
| That's _Sir_ Arthur C. Clarke to you!
| bombcar wrote:
| I like that if you zoom in on the US, you don't see states but
| you do see Indian Nations.
|
| Also, this cable is neat:
| https://www.submarinecablemap.com/submarine-cable/gulf-of-me...
| dtgriscom wrote:
| Are the North Pacific cables from the US to Japan really that
| evenly spaced, or is it "chust for pretty"?
| alhirzel wrote:
| I wonder if there is a version of this that includes domestic
| cables? Navigational charts generally show them (as well as
| various "DO NOT ANCHOR" signage denoting them). It would be cool
| to see what the more "minor" or "non-international" underwater
| infrastructure looks like.
| krastanov wrote:
| Is there a version of this that includes the bandwidth provided
| by each cable? What is the total cable bandwidth between the East
| Coast North America and Europe?
| topspin wrote:
| First thing I looked for as well.
| renewiltord wrote:
| Actually really cool. I wish it had a quick X to Y search. Japan
| to Hong Kong, for instance.
| AdamH12113 wrote:
| Interesting that there are a couple cables directly connecting
| China and Taiwan. I wonder how those agreements were worked out?
| tastyfreeze wrote:
| Every time this pops up I wish that it was merged with the
| overland cable maps for a global network view. Turns out
| something like that exists.
|
| https://www.infrapedia.com/
| divbzero wrote:
| Infrapedia looks incredible and far more detailed. When zoomed
| in, Infrapedia accurately displays the ends of cables down to
| the street and building.
| Havoc wrote:
| Anybody know why they don't terminate in big population centers
| even if they're near a river, but rather some random place
| outside of it?
|
| e.g. London...zero direct landings.
| advisedwang wrote:
| * Cheaper to put telecoms&DC facilities out of expensive areas
|
| * Little benefit from landing in the urban area
|
| * Cities often have extra regulatory requirements
|
| * Higher risk of cable breaks if you are in an area with lots
| of development or in a river with dredging
| zahrc wrote:
| The CLION terminates in Rostock which is quite hit and near a
| river, called Warnow.
|
| https://www.submarinecablemap.com/submarine-cable/c-lion1
| supergeek wrote:
| In the US there are quite a few landings just outside of NYC
| and LA. I'd guess London is too far inland, and it's cheaper to
| run fiber over land.
|
| There is probably also an incentive to keep the cables away
| from major shipping lanes where they'd disrupt the ability for
| ships dropping anchor. Notice around Seattle some cables snake
| up and through the sound, but it's also extremely deep water.
| That landing is also far north of the city proper, so any ships
| waiting near port are a ways from the landing site.
| bombcar wrote:
| As others have mentioned, the more you get close to a
| population center the more activity is happening, even
| underwater in rivers.
|
| Anchors are being drug, there are other already existing lines,
| it's all quite complicated.
|
| If you have a fatpipe already running OUT of the city center,
| it can be much easier to join up to that elsewhere, and then
| dip into the drink.
| booboofixer wrote:
| I imagine a map of some major long haul cables on land would be
| interesting too.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan-China_Fiber_Optic_Pro...
| 1970-01-01 wrote:
| Somewhat related is the Starlink live coverage map.
|
| https://starlink.sx/
| loufe wrote:
| I work up at the north of Hudson's Bay in Quebec, where we're all
| eagerly awaiting the arrival of the fibre connection. For those
| curious, all cables in grey seem to incomplete projects. For
| instance, the Kattittuq Nunavut cable only just got funding.
| statusfailed wrote:
| If this interests you, you will probably enjoy my favourite Wired
| article of all time: "Mother Earth Mother Board"[0] (By Neal
| Stephenson! in 1996!)
|
| [0]: https://www.wired.com/1996/12/ffglass/
| aesch wrote:
| It's cool seeing the map of the cable he writes about, FLAG:
| https://www.submarinecablemap.com/submarine-cable/flag-europ...
| walrus01 wrote:
| This is literally the article that resulted in my mid-1990s
| teenage self being motivated to work in ISP core network
| engineering, which is what I've been doing now for twenty
| years...
|
| I wish Stephenson would write more things like this in addition
| to his novels.
| gnososphere wrote:
| https://github.com/telegeography/www.submarinecablemap.com
|
| Built with data from TeleGeography:
| https://www2.telegeography.com/
| nathas wrote:
| Is there a large format print version of this available? I'd love
| this as a big poster.
| ocius wrote:
| Really impressive! World-spanning infrastructure. Beautiful map,
| also.
| bombcar wrote:
| I love how the cable-layers carefully made all those US-EU
| cables perfectly parallel.
| insane_dreamer wrote:
| The effort that it must have taken to lay the "Polar Express"
| cable for such a thin population -- you think they'd just use
| satellite access.
| standardUser wrote:
| That made me think that laying underwater cable must be very
| economical. There's lots of loops that look completely
| unnecessary, like the Gulf of Mexico. But maybe it was cheaper
| than installing cables on land? And the terrain of Northern
| Russia is probably a lot harder to deal with than Texas.
| kzrdude wrote:
| The length of it is exaggerated on the map due to map
| projection (obligatory comment). In reality it's about as long
| as the one connecting Oregon to Taiwan (which is long, but not
| record-setting.)
|
| Probably a pretty important project to do that one for Russia
| anyway, it connects all parts of the country.
| briffle wrote:
| Sure does explain why the first Datacenter for Google and
| Facebook were both in Oregon. that is a ton of pipes to Asia.
| kijiki wrote:
| Also tons of cheap hydro-power. There used to be lots of
| Aluminum smelting up there, but that mostly moved out of
| country in the late 70's/early 80's.
| reaperducer wrote:
| Submitted to HN 30 times since 2011. I wonder if that's a record.
| axelav wrote:
| It's a classic but I do enjoy having a look at it every few
| years.
| kozziollek wrote:
| Especially when somebody launches new cable (Google,
| Equiano).
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