[HN Gopher] 'Liz Truss hasn't understood a word I wrote', says P...
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       'Liz Truss hasn't understood a word I wrote', says PM's favourite
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       Author : enviclash
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2022-10-01 19:36 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | yieldcrv wrote:
       | Think the UK will get 3 Prime Ministers in 30 days?
        
         | spzb wrote:
         | More frighteningly we might manage to make it three
         | premierships with only two PMs if Boris Johnson's saviour dream
         | comes true.
        
           | enviclash wrote:
           | I have no word for how both terrifying and hilarious that
           | could be.
        
         | enviclash wrote:
         | It does not sound unrealistic at all.
        
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       | tuatoru wrote:
       | "Perlstein said that, if she read his books with the
       | attentiveness she claimed, she would not have risked our pensions
       | and mortgages with a naive belief that tax cuts would stimulate
       | economic growth and raise revenue for the Treasury. Far from
       | paying for themselves, Reagan's income and capital gains tax cuts
       | in the early 1980s sent public debt from 26 per cent GDP in 1980
       | to 41 per cent GDP by 1988."
       | 
       | This suggests quite the opposite to me. Truss has said repeatedly
       | and clearly that she wants to shrink government.
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       | If she has read Perlstein's books, and also Naomi Klein's _The
       | Shock Doctrine_ [1], she is merely applying what she has read.
       | 
       | No one should be surprised either now, or soon when the Bristish
       | PM says that "debt has to be cut, so we are privatising the NHS
       | and cutting pensions".
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       | 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
        
         | enviclash wrote:
         | "And so it has proved again and again. Reagan's tax cuts,
         | George W. Bush's tax cuts, Donald Trump's tax cuts all failed
         | to deliver." Polls also show drops in popularity. What exactly
         | do you think she got right?
        
           | ZeroGravitas wrote:
           | Giving money to the people who will pay for her next election
           | campaign.
           | 
           | > In the 1970s, Irving Kristol, the editor of Public
           | Interest, was explicit that politics must trump economics.
           | The political advantage tax cuts would provide to the
           | Republicans was so historically imperative they should be
           | blasted through whatever the effect on the budget. 'The neo-
           | Conservative is willing to leave those problems to be coped
           | with by liberal interregnums
           | 
           | Even if they get kicked out as a result, that just gives them
           | some economic chaos to complain about from opposition. They
           | kicked off this latest decade of austerity because Labour
           | paid nurses too much and so caused a global recession.
        
           | tuatoru wrote:
           | Preparing the ground to massively cut the size of the state.
           | "Small enough to drown in a bathtub" has been the goal of her
           | ilk for generations.
           | 
           | I thought I had clearly said this.
           | 
           | (There is a great blind spot in the thinking. Military
           | defence, public order, the court system for arbitration
           | between billionaires, essential infrastructure like national
           | roads, and more besides: all of these must be state
           | functions. Truss and her co-religionists haven't heard the
           | maxim, "be careful what you wish for, because you might get
           | it.")
        
       | googlryas wrote:
       | This happens all the time and is just part of the boring non-news
       | cycle.
       | 
       | 1) important person X says their favorite Y is Z.
       | 
       | 2) creator of Z has different politics than X so they do an
       | interview saying person X is stupid and doesn't understand Z.
       | 
       | 3) the cycle moves on 5 minutes later.
        
         | enviclash wrote:
         | Also repeated from another angle: since the 1970s it is a known
         | story that such tax cuts do not deliver the promise.
        
       | jokethrowaway wrote:
       | That's correct - as long as she can't shrink the government and
       | reduce spending.
       | 
       | From my experience, governments rarely get something done, so
       | it's unlikely she will have enough political power to cut the
       | government down.
       | 
       | I'm not following the UK news, but it sounds to me like she cut
       | down taxes to create an emergency situation and force the
       | political apparatus to cut down on spending or face record high
       | debt.
       | 
       | Hats off if it works: if it doesn't, I think western governments
       | are doomed to grow larger and larger until their host country
       | collapses, productive people flee somewhere else and who's left
       | will rebuild a smaller government from the ashes starting the
       | cycle again.
        
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