[HN Gopher] Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision
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       Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision
        
       Author : shifty1
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2022-09-28 20:49 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bbc.com)
        
       | vardump wrote:
       | https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/heathrow-cra...
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       | "Two airplanes have hit into each other on the runway at Heathrow
       | Airport this evening (Wednesday, September 28). The nature of the
       | incident was not clear at first, but witnesses report that the
       | wings of two planes hit into each other. _It is not believed to
       | be a serious incident._ "
        
         | paulgb wrote:
         | Maybe @dang could replace the link with that one, the linked
         | one doesn't seem to be handling the load well.
        
       | agsnu wrote:
       | oopsy daisy
        
       | rwmj wrote:
       | BBC News has a better article:
       | 
       | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63069004
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Ok, we'll change to that from https://www.airlive.net/breaking-
         | two-planes-collided-on-grou.... Thanks!
        
       | paxys wrote:
       | Probably not serious enough to discuss. Planes clip random things
       | - and each other - while taxiing at airports all the time.
        
         | nawgz wrote:
         | That's just blatantly false. Every time a plane takes damage
         | they have to do a full analysis of similar damage and
         | flightworthiness. The people on call to do this aren't cheap
         | and great caution is taken in the procedures of moving planes
         | to avoid damage of all natures.
        
         | epolanski wrote:
         | It is actually far from being that common.
        
           | bdamm wrote:
           | No, it's quite common. Planes collide on the ground all the
           | time, at airports all over the world. Normally minor "oops"
           | in ground handling, by the pilots but also can be pushers and
           | such who are ferrying around airplanes. Runway entrance and
           | exits are particularly hazardous and are marked that way.
        
             | epolanski wrote:
             | You need to provide data behind this claim.
             | 
             | Not only you need major mistakes by multiple people and
             | systems for two planes to touch while taxing, but two
             | planes colliding even in an apparently minor way is enough
             | to ground the planes for controls.
        
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             | TillE wrote:
             | > Normally minor "oops" in ground handling
             | 
             | There is absolutely nothing minor or common about a
             | collision of airliners _on a runway_ at a major airport.
             | 
             | Similar mistakes have resulted in serious incidents. There
             | will be a full investigation of this.
        
             | fshbbdssbbgdd wrote:
             | What happens after, does the plane still fly? Are planes
             | engineered to withstand this?
        
               | pb7 wrote:
               | There is zero chance they're flying immediately after
               | this.
        
               | nicoburns wrote:
               | I imagine there's a good chance that the plane _could_
               | fly after this, but aviation is (rightfully) risk averse
               | and expect it 'll have a pass a full inspection before
               | being cleared for flight again.
        
           | spiderice wrote:
           | But.. uncommon enough that people should care about it world
           | wide each time it happens? If this happened at my nearest
           | airport, I would expect to see it in the local paper. I
           | definitely wouldn't expect people more than a couple hundred
           | miles away from me to hear about it.
        
         | antihero wrote:
         | Really? That's absolute madness. Any more info?
        
           | bolasanibk wrote:
           | FAA search page for incidents:
           | https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:12:::NO:::
           | 
           | List of incidents in the past 10 days:
           | https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:93:::NO:::
        
             | jpollock wrote:
             | There haven't been many recently.
             | 
             | Airbus/Boeing accidents while taxing:
             | 
             | https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:11:::NO:::
             | 
             | 2021: 1
             | 
             | 20210220001669I - ON TAXI OUT FROM THE DE-ICE PAD THE RIGHT
             | WING STRUCK AN IMPROPERLY PLACED DE-ICE TRUCK
             | 
             | 2020: 1
             | 
             | 20201220018589I - SUSTAINED RIGHT WINGTIP DAMAGE FROM
             | STRIKING A LIGHT POLE
             | 
             | 2019 - 4 ...
             | 
             | 20190729005662I - G-CKWE STRUCK N819AN?S RIGHT WINGTIP WITH
             | THEIR RIGHT WINGTIP
             | 
             | 20190610006432I - ASAA STRUCK THE RIGHT HORIZONTAL
             | STABILIZER OF THE PARKED EMBRAER 175 WITH THEIR LEFT
             | WINGLET
             | 
             | 20190418002979I - THE AIRCRAFT STRUCK A RUNWAY EDGE LIGHT
             | 
             | They can get pretty funny. The first one I clicked into was
             | "ingested snowbank and a light"
        
             | pistachiopro wrote:
             | Thanks for the link.
             | 
             | By my reading, of the 8 incidents reported in the last 10
             | days for Airbus and Boeing aircraft, 7 were collisions with
             | birds and one was:
             | 
             | > AIRCRAFT LANDED AND POST FLIGHT INSPECTION REVEALED
             | DAMAGE TO RIGHT LANDING GEAR AND FLAPS, HOUSTON, TX.
             | 
             | Nothing about two planes colliding on a runway.
        
             | qw3rty01 wrote:
             | almost all of these are non-commercial; all but 1 of the
             | commercial incidents from the past 10 days are due to
             | striking birds in flight, and nothing with airport taxiing
        
       | runarberg wrote:
       | Also in the Icelandic state news:
       | https://www.ruv.is/frett/2022/09/28/vel-icelandair-lenti-i-a...
        
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