[HN Gopher] Amazon's Kindle Scribe is an E Ink tablet for readin...
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Amazon's Kindle Scribe is an E Ink tablet for reading and writing
Author : ssully
Score : 106 points
Date : 2022-09-28 16:15 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| kixiQu wrote:
| I'm curious how the performance / writing experience is relative
| to the high-end e-ink tablets people are falling in love with
| these days (remarkable etc.). I don't feel the need to write on
| my kindle enough to justify it unless it's properly pleasant.
| aaroninsf wrote:
| > wonders if they licensed the color tech yet > click > nope >
| close tab
|
| Wake me when the patent expires. What a fail.
| turtlebits wrote:
| IMO, color eink isn't worth it right now, especially for the
| difference in price. Unless you really want that faded color
| newspaper look, it's not appealing at all.
| rospaya wrote:
| Yet they're gonna sell millions of these as they did with any
| other Kindle. For a lot of people that's not a dealbreaker.
| Eric_WVGG wrote:
| dunno. I think when you present the "drawbacks" of monochrome
| e-ink, they start to sound like obvious advantages (low power,
| easy on the eyes, unreal battery life). It can't compare to a
| color LCD, but it doesn't have to.
|
| Color e-ink makes the drawbacks of an e-ink display much more
| stark. It begs comparison and loses, badly.
|
| Mark me down as a long-term color e-ink skeptic.
| w0m wrote:
| i haven't used my kindle since (kids); but used my old one
| daily for years and lack of color was a huge win. If you want
| color; you want an iPad.
| [deleted]
| dividedbyzero wrote:
| I read lots of popular science and I'd love to have colored
| illustrations or the occasional photograph rendered in color.
| smilekzs wrote:
| Counterpoint: even if they only give you 4 colors (red, dark
| green, dark blue, black), it'd be already immensely useful
| for note-taking.
|
| This is one of the reasons I'm still not using my Remarkable
| 2 much.
| elicash wrote:
| I've heard this discussed before on HN, but is there a single
| patent? Or is it more like a collection of patents over the
| course of decades?
| _virtu wrote:
| I hope this puts remarkable in their place after gibbing their
| loyal early adopters with a subscription model. I am aware
| they've reverted it but at this point I have no sympathy for
| them.
| bArray wrote:
| How I hope it works is that the "PDF mark-up" can be exported as
| a PDF. This would allow me to insert papers/reports, comment on
| them and then send them back to students. What I can't do is
| upload these documents to the cloud - so I hope this is
| addressed.
|
| In terms of cost, I was hoping for something maybe $200. At $400
| it's getting close to a relatively good tablet or even a usable
| laptop.
| donkarma wrote:
| yamtaddle wrote:
| This made it occur to me that a tablet that mimics the form of
| electric typewriters--a fixed-width LCD screen, a bit akin to
| those on simple calculators, with the full page above it, and
| text from the LCD appended to the "page" when you move to the
| next line--might actually be awesome for writing, coupled with an
| external keyboard. Potentially-very-low input latency while
| typing, and no page-flickering except when changing lines. You
| could even scroll back to edit.
| digdugdirk wrote:
| Could I interest you by chance in an Alphasmart word processor?
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaSmart
| yamtaddle wrote:
| Right--that, but stick a big e-ink display above it. USB port
| and bluetooth so you can use an external keyboard (though a
| compact attached keyboard/stand isn't a bad idea, even if
| it's kinda a shitty keyboard).
|
| Like this, but instead of printing your finished line to
| paper it "prints" to e-ink:
|
| https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY1WDEwMjQ=/z/IA8AAOSwQ59ZZBmO/$.
| ..
|
| But, you know, not huge.
| cstross wrote:
| The Freewrite folks are currently doing a fundraiser on
| Indiegogo for Freewrite Alpha, their take on the Alphasmart
| concept, only using e-ink:
|
| https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/freewrite-alpha-
| distracti...
|
| (I personally wouldn't touch one -- I need multiple lines
| of text in order to frame my thoughts in context, never
| mind that I _like_ being able to dive online to do
| impromptu research as I write -- but I can see it appealing
| to some folks. 100 hour battery life is the obvious draw.)
| [deleted]
| jelliclesfarm wrote:
| I will wait for 2-3rd generation before buying it. I bought
| kindle early at $400 before it became a brick and I can just use
| my tablet/phone anyways. Remarkable has failed me twice. I am on
| fence with e Ink tablets. Perhaps it's not for me.
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| > Remarkable has failed me twice
|
| How so? I have a Remarkable 2 (pre-cloud subscription) and
| really like it. What happened for you?
| m463 wrote:
| I have a remarkable 2 and like it quite a bit.
|
| Only thing I don't like is swipe to turn page is not great.
| rvz wrote:
| > I will wait for 2-3rd generation before buying it.
|
| Smart strategy.
|
| I waited for the reMarkable 2 to get better, but it just gotten
| worse and all it offered was an under powered and non-
| upgradeable and laughable 8GB of maximum storage + a cloud
| storage subscription for more storage.
|
| The Kindle Scribe already starts with 16GB and is cheaper than
| the reMarkable 2 with the equivalent accessories coming with
| it. I guess the one that can actually deliver a proper e-ink
| tablet that just works, it would be unsurprisingly Amazon,
| hence why it is already an immediate best seller.
|
| I'll wait until whoever releases a color E-ink tablet,
| something that the reMarkable 2 has failed to deliver on,
| despite some early competitors already selling them but support
| and features from them isn't going to be as good as Amazon's.
| drewzero1 wrote:
| I've been looking into the Boox Nova Air C, which seems like
| a pretty promising color e-ink tablet, depending on your
| screen size requirements (7.8"). It runs Android though which
| may be a good or bad thing depending on one's needs.
| criddell wrote:
| Both the Remarkable and the Scribe are only 10" devices. If you
| are going to read and markup PDFs, a 13" screen makes so much
| more sense because it's very close to letter/A4 size.
| meltyness wrote:
| remarkable has very capable software, as such the
| "microfaiche / pinch-to-zoom" style operation is pretty
| effective. It can compensate somewhat without too much hassle
| for reading and annotating double-column works without eye
| strain.
| radicaldreamer wrote:
| Sony Digital Paper was such a product but very few outside of
| Academia and some Japanese business customers bought it.
| criddell wrote:
| Fujitsu Quaderno is one you can still get and is supposedly
| pretty good.
| AlanYx wrote:
| The current (gen 2) Quaderno A4 is really excellent and
| pretty inexpensive ordered from Amazon JP given current
| exchange rates.
| B1FF_PSUVM wrote:
| I tried to look it up -
| https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=fujitsu+quaderno+a4 - and
| only the smaller A5 seems to be available
| francogt wrote:
| I've had one for many years and found it to be the perfect
| device to read and take notes on PDFs: 13" screen, super
| lightweight, easy to send PDFs to it and from it through
| the app and writing on it feels similar to writing on
| paper. Unfortunately the pen's tip broke off and there
| doesn't seem to be any way to fix it or buy new ones. It is
| mostly useless without it.
| criddell wrote:
| Is it not this:
|
| https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1288294-REG/sony_d
| pta...
| MerelyMortal wrote:
| It's not waterproof!?
|
| The design is reminiscent of the Kindle Oasis which is IPX8,
| their other premium offering is the Paperwhite which is also
| IPX8. The Scribe costs more and isn't water proof. I can't
| imagine what about the digitzer makes it unable to be waterproof,
| unless Amazon just thought it wasn't worth it.
| syntaxing wrote:
| For that prices, makes little sense to me why you wouldn't buy a
| Kobo Eclipse instead.
| FalconSensei wrote:
| Looking at it, seems like Scribe is $339 and Elipsa is $399.
|
| Also, if you already have a huge Kindle library, makes little
| sense to change reader and lose it
| tjoff wrote:
| It never made any sense to have a huge library locked to a
| vendor.
|
| And there are ways to convert your library so you don't have
| to make the same mistake twice.
| FalconSensei wrote:
| Unless you pirate, for most publishers, there's no way to
| buy books without DRM. If you buy books for Kobo, you are
| locked on Kobo.
|
| Also, last time I tried, Kobo's phone app was just not
| good. There was no vertical scroll like Kindle, the
| animations were not smooth. The online store is also a bit
| weirder for me to navigate - but that might be just me.
|
| And last, if it was not bought at their online store, it
| won't have sync between devices, AFAIK
| tjoff wrote:
| There are trivial ways to strip the DRM though. And I
| always do that regardless if the DRM is native for my
| device.
|
| If that wasn't an option I'd never buy a single ebook.
| DennisP wrote:
| But you can strip Amazon's DRM too, so I don't see why
| the two platforms aren't equivalent.
| kcartlidge wrote:
| For me the main difference I've found is that ebooks
| stripped of DRM tend to end up in EPUB form as the
| presumption is you're ensuring the books remain
| accessible on future platforms so you're going for an
| open and 'standard' format.
|
| At which point it's then common to tidy up things like
| the book metadata (eg correct the genre or add a series
| identifier). That in turn means the DRM-free EPUB version
| becomes the better version, so the native and network-
| free support of side-loading EPUB books on the Kobo etc
| is a useful thing.
| dividedbyzero wrote:
| Don't other readers support Amazon's format as well, if
| de-DRM-ed?
| dividedbyzero wrote:
| It's ridiculously absurdly convenient. Someone recommends a
| book to me or I see one mentioned, I quickly Amazon it, one
| click to send a sample to my Kindle. Amazon has everything,
| I can't remember when I last couldn't get something there.
| When I finish a book, I always have a bunch of samples, and
| Amazon gives you a decent portion of the book, so they're
| actually useful. If I like a sample, it's two or three taps
| to buy it and continue reading. I don't know any other
| store that sells such a wide selection of ebooks in both my
| native language and English to a EU resident. I'm reading a
| lot more than I did before my Kindle because I don't have
| the friction of finding book recommendations in my notes
| and finding a store and getting the purchased book on the
| device, and the device is fun too.
|
| De-DRM-ed backups aren't necessarily a bad idea though, I'm
| with you on that.
| kwertyoowiyop wrote:
| This is the first time I've seen 'Amazon' verbed. Amazon
| marketing execs are now experiencing an unexplained
| sensation of joy. :-)
| FalconSensei wrote:
| > It's ridiculously absurdly convenient.
|
| Exactly. While de-drm-ing things for backup is nice
| (although I could just torrent it anyway if that's the
| case), some people often forget why we use kindle and the
| it's 'ecosystem'. Great selection on many languages, good
| device, good apps for mac/windows/android/iphone/ipad,
| extremely convenient, constant sales on books, etc...
| themadturk wrote:
| As an aspiring author, I believe in paying for books to
| support authors. I may also believe that I own the books
| I've paid for. Take from that what you will...
| tjoff wrote:
| It really isn't convenient to be locked into an
| ecosystem.
|
| You should test your backup. And the best way to test a
| de-drmed book is by reading it.
| dividedbyzero wrote:
| Of course it's convenient, the big walled gardens are as
| successful as they are because they are very convenient
| as long as you're fairly typical (like the vast majority
| of people), you don't get kicked out (seems very
| unlikely) and they don't stop operating (not a big worry
| with Kindle). Scrounging books from ten different shops,
| giving my credit card to each, managing everything
| myself, no sync with my phone, higher prices, not finding
| some books because they're only on Kindle, that's
| inconvenient.
| outcoldman wrote:
| I guess it is time for me to upgrade my Kindle Oasis (1st gen I
| assume), which I never use to this Kindle Scribe, which I also
| probably never going to use.
|
| But the main issue with the Kindles was not being able to read
| PDF (technical books, technical articles), and I dreamed about
| the DX when it was available only in US, and I also did not have
| money to buy one. After I moved to US 13 years ago, the DX
| version was out of shelves. So, pretty excited to give Scribe a
| try!
| kabdib wrote:
| I bought a DX so that I could read PDFs and whatnot. It went
| unused; it was VERY slow and most papers still required
| (slowwww) scrolling when viewed at a readable scale.
| clint wrote:
| I have never once wanted to read a PDF on my Kindle and I'm not
| entirely sure why anyone would. Mostly because reading PDFs on
| something like kindle would be a shit show (I assume this is
| entirely why they haven't added that functionality).
|
| I've owned probably 10+ kindles, including the DX, and I think
| its honestly the bit of technology I used _the most_ outside of
| my iPhone.
| tjoff wrote:
| Haven't added the functionality? I've used it a lot. There
| are apps to trim away all margins which makes it semi-decent.
| solarkraft wrote:
| Because many things are only as PDFs. We can hate it as much
| as we want, it is like that.
| hwbehrens wrote:
| > * why anyone would *
|
| Just to give you some context as a counterexample, I often
| need to read 10-50 pages of dense, size 10, double column
| scientific PDFs with many graphs and figures. These
| documents, which are typically either A4 or letter size, look
| abysmal at nearly any scale <90%. Color is also regularly
| required to parse many graphs properly.
|
| I use my Kindle exclusively for reading documents which are
| primarily lightly-formatted text (e.g. novels, textbooks,
| etc) but it's atrocious for PDFs. When needed, I switch to an
| iPad Pro that I use exclusively for reading (and annotating)
| these PDFs, which is likewise horrible for reading "regular"
| text.
| desindol wrote:
| 10 kindles? What happened to 9 of them?
| themadturk wrote:
| I've owned at least six or seven. They wear out (I think
| only the first gen and DX had a replaceable battery), get
| broken, get lost. They are superseded by better models
| (front lighting on the Paperwhite was a game-changer).
| FalconSensei wrote:
| I loved the DX. Used it for 8 years, I think. Great size for
| reading manga.
|
| Now I read manga on iPad, and use the paperwhite for books
| only
| nharada wrote:
| My 10 year old DX just kicked the bucket, I'm actually
| really bummed about it.
| MerelyMortal wrote:
| I have a pristine, barely used DX with cover (Kindle DX
| Graphite?), maybe I should throw it on eBay? There are
| already a couple of listings if you're so inclined.
| drewzero1 wrote:
| Did the Oasis really not have that functionality? I have a
| Kindle Touch (2011) and read PDFs on it all the time. Depending
| on the text size, it's usually more comfortable to read them a
| half-page at a time in landscape mode, but if the margins are
| cropped a full page view is often perfectly readable.
| [deleted]
| Aromasin wrote:
| Wait... you can't read PDF's? This seems like insanity to me?
| Why would they not enable such a basic and fundamental feature?
| jljljl wrote:
| You can, but it's a very unpleasant experience on the
| Kindle's small screen. The DX was much better at this because
| it could comfortably display a full page of a PDF without
| needing to scroll
| themadturk wrote:
| The Kindle is perfectly capable of letting you view PDFs.
| Many humans are not perfectly capable of reading material
| laid out for a letter/A4 sized sheet of paper on a six-inch
| screen. Yes, there are ways around it, but not everyone finds
| them satisfactory.
| datalopers wrote:
| It's about as pleasant as reading a pdf on a phone. Yes,
| supports it, but you're either constantly panning your
| viewframe or have superhuman vision.
| Marazan wrote:
| I'd actually prefer reading a PDF on a phone over a
| standard sized kindle.
|
| All I ask for is a A4 sized e-reader that doesn't cost five
| million pounds to buy.
| clint wrote:
| Everyone thinks they want to read a PDF on something that
| isn't a desktop or an A4 sheet of paper, and then they try it
| and realize that there are basically no PDFs that are laid-
| out in a way that could be feasibly consumed on such a
| device.
|
| In addition to that, writing heuristics to try and make it
| possible to unify the experience of reading any arbitrary PDF
| is such a quagmire/shitshow that basically no one is willing
| to step up and try to make it possible.
| zwaps wrote:
| I have read a gazillion of pages of PDFs on my Remarkable
| over the years, fwiw
| wellthisisgreat wrote:
| So with 300 PPI it's the highest PPI eink notebook on the market?
|
| I wonder what's the response rate for the pen as it ultimately
| decides the utility of this device as a notebook
| azinman2 wrote:
| Ya I'm wondering what ppi competitors are, and latency wasn't
| mentioned. Would also be good to know latency and ppi compared
| to an iPad Pro.
| gadders wrote:
| I really want one of these, but not for $400-ish. I think the
| sweetspot for me would be around $150-ish. Fully understand if
| it's not achievable.
| [deleted]
| djhworld wrote:
| For me all the drawing features etc. are kinda useless if it
| becomes a pain to export them to other things.
|
| The Amazon blurb around this
|
| > Get access to your notebooks through the Kindle app sync
| feature (coming early 2023).
|
| Suggests some kindle app will be required, I just hope you can do
| stuff like export to images/svgs or PDF
| ajsnigrutin wrote:
| https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/
|
| This seems like a better option to me.... stll not "user
| ready", but shows promise, and not a lot more expensive.
|
| (not affiliated, just really like the idea)
| mikestew wrote:
| I'm confident that Amazon will get sync working long before
| the PineNote becomes a daily driver for most folks. I love
| fiddling with my PineTime, but the key word is "fiddling",
| and I don't see that the PineNote is any further along than
| the watch is.
| nottorp wrote:
| Just for the record, Kobo, reMarkable and Onyx have had similar
| e-readers that you can take notes on for quite a while.
| anonporridge wrote:
| The reMarkable would have been lovely to have during my
| university days.
|
| A laptop can be a source of distraction during lectures, and
| paper isn't as easily searchable.
| benji_is_me wrote:
| I used my reMarkable 2 tablet all throughout university (I
| only recently graduated). Searchability is an area that e-ink
| tablets can surely solve, although the reMarkable's software
| wasn't particularly helpful in this regard (perhaps it has
| improved now). You can only convert 1 page at a time using
| their OCR and they only recently added the ability to tag
| documents.
|
| My favorite feature was actually simple: I don't have to
| erase everything to rearrange the layout of my notes. Being
| able to simply select a portion of the page, resize, and move
| it was killer. Another great feature is simply not having to
| lug separate notebooks around. The ability to organize and
| sort documents was very helpful.
| B1FF_PSUVM wrote:
| Thanks, this is very helpful.
|
| I recently looked for an excuse to get a reMarkable 2, and
| couldn't find one for me ... maybe next time I'm tempted.
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| Amazon clearly felt threatened by the _tens_ of people with a
| Kobo Elipsa and the _dozens_ of people with reMarkable tablets.
| tiahura wrote:
| Remarkable 2 doesn't have a backlight. Kobo's software is fine
| (mostly), but the design or manufacturing seems to be a notch
| below. On my Kobo the touchscreen is enragingly inaccurate.
|
| And, direct access to the Amazon library is not an
| insignificant advantage.
| e-_pusher wrote:
| What do you mean by the kobo screen being inaccurate? Is this
| for the stylus of the touch itself? I was considering buying
| a kobo but this comment scares me a bit now.
| alephxyz wrote:
| I've had 3 kobos and never encountered touch screen issues.
| Just make sure not to drop it down a staircase.
| jolmg wrote:
| > Remarkable 2 doesn't have a backlight
|
| Do e-ink displays with a backlight even exist?
| nottorp wrote:
| It's a front light technically. Still, the device is self
| lit or not.
| jsymolon wrote:
| I have a SuperNote that is a decent PDF viewer and notetaker.
|
| https://goodereader.com/blog/reviews/supernote-a5x-digital-n...
| noduerme wrote:
| I love the Onyx as it runs full Android. Also its built in apps
| and ink settings have a slightly steep learning curve and what
| seem like weird UI decisions at first, but turn out to give a
| lot of control over the experience.
| eli wrote:
| I can only speak to the reMarkable. I like it, but it's
| definitely a note taking device that also has some basic
| support for reading documents. As an e-reader it's not anywhere
| close to a Kindle.
| goosedragons wrote:
| Kobo is also an e-reader company like Amazon and so their
| ePub support is fantastic. Boox's is OK but since it's
| Android you can literally use any ebook app you want
| including Kobo and Kindle so it's not a huge deal. The PDF
| reader on Boox devices is very good too with features like
| autocroping of margins.
| ranger_danger wrote:
| Ironic that the original Kindle was already e-ink and had more
| features, like hardware page-turning buttons and "free for life"
| (yes I know) cellular connectivity.
| themadturk wrote:
| I am displeased by Amazon removing the cellular connectivity,
| and was always willing to pay the premium to get it on new
| devices. Of course, on the Kindle 1 (which had page-turn
| buttons and a removable battery) 3G was the only means of
| connectivity (along with USB, if I remember correctly); wifi
| didn't come until later.
| layer8 wrote:
| I love the concept of those e-ink devices, but what kills them
| for me is the poor contrast (something like 10:1), much worse
| than writing with a black pen on actual white paper. Due to poor
| eyesight, e-ink is unusable for me without strong built-in light
| to boost contrast, and then I might as well use an LCD/OLED
| tablet with better capabilities.
| jmcphers wrote:
| I was really hoping for a Kindle with USB-C and page turning
| buttons; inexplicably this still does not exist.
| devindotcom wrote:
| FYI the Kobo Libra 2 is just this if you don't need the Amazon
| ecosystem. If you do, you're out of luck for now though.
| jmcphers wrote:
| The main reason I stick with Amazon is that it has the best
| integration with my local library, which is where I get 90%
| of my books. Like most libraries, they are OverDrive based.
|
| I can check out a book from the library on my phone and have
| it appear wirelessly on my Kindle moments later. Last I
| checked all non-Kindle devices require you to basically
| download an .epub file onto your computer and then sideload
| it with a cable to check out a library book, which is too
| much hassle for something I do several times a week.
| themadturk wrote:
| The Oasis, with page-turn buttons, hasn't been refreshed since
| mid-2019; the latest Paperwhite, with USB-C port, was released
| two years later. I expect the next Oasis will have USB-C.
| jmcphers wrote:
| I was really hoping for a new Oasis in this announcement! I
| currently use a Voyage, a long-since-discontinued Kindle that
| was a hybrid of the Paperwhite and the Oasis, with a
| symmetric design and haptic page turn "buttons" on the left
| and right bezels.
|
| With the arrival of the Paperwhite Signature Edition I'm
| wondering if Amazon is going to phase out the Oasis line
| entirely, just as they did with Voyage. It can't be selling
| that well as virtually every feature is now as good or better
| on the Paperwhite line.
| kabdib wrote:
| The Kindle Paperwhite uses a USB-C connector. (It probably
| still uses USB 2.x for data transfer, though -- I'm not sure
| why that would matter to anyone).
| hwbehrens wrote:
| I believe only the Kindle Oasis has physical page-turning
| buttons, and it (inexplicably) still uses Micro-USB. I
| suspect this situation is what the parent is referring to.
| sylens wrote:
| I have been trying to figure out a better workflow for grabbing
| websites or PDFs, marking them up, and storing them as notes,
| either by themselves or in something like Craft or Obsidian to
| reference later. I'm not sure this really moves the needle as I
| can't imagine moving stuff to the Kindle and then back again will
| be frictionless.
| barefoot wrote:
| I've had some luck with Remarkable. Remarkable has a reasonably
| good experience for getting a PDF to the device, working with
| it, and then getting it back to the source as a seemingly plain
| PDF.
| rchaud wrote:
| Boox e-ink tabs do the same thing, but they're Android underneath
| so it's not locked down to Amazon and dependent on partnerships
| with Microsoft to add an export button.
| metadat wrote:
| Never heard of boox. They have a wide array of product
| offerings.
|
| https://shop.boox.com/collections/eink-tablet?
| nickspacek wrote:
| I have a Boox that I'm quite happy with. It's quite pleasant to
| write on, and the battery lasts a considerable amount of time.
| The calibration seems to sometimes go off slightly, but I'm
| still not sure if that is the device's issue, the pen, or
| myself.
| e-_pusher wrote:
| What do you mean by the calibration? Like the pen doesn't ink
| where you touch the screen? Which Boox model does this
| affect?
| pedalpete wrote:
| My Boox is about 3 years old now. Most of my reading is done in
| the Kindle app, and I enjoy the writing experience, but feel
| there are ways that an Amazon device could provide better
| integration with note taking in the books I'm reading.
|
| I'm starting to notice the battery on my Boox doesn't last as
| long as it used to, so I'll probably replace it with a Kindle.
|
| I got the Ratta Heart of Metal Pen to use with my boox, and
| it's a really nice writing experience, and I don't have to
| replace tips (I found the boox tip didn't last very long). Just
| added a screen protector and it's been great.
| https://supernote.com/products/heart-of-metal-pen
| andrei_says_ wrote:
| I also own a boox - a four year old device. Supports epub, pdf
| etc. out of the box. The Kindle app works flawlessly.
|
| The O'Reilly learning app works great, too.
|
| Drawing functionality is as good as the current state of eink
| screens.
|
| Pretty sure I wouldn't want to lock myself into the Amazon
| content ecosystem ever again.
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