[HN Gopher] Discover Kentucky Archaeology
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       Discover Kentucky Archaeology
        
       Author : auditor_3d
       Score  : 52 points
       Date   : 2022-09-26 12:54 UTC (2 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (archaeology.ky.gov)
 (TXT) w3m dump (archaeology.ky.gov)
        
       | CSSer wrote:
       | Wow! Very weird to find my home state and birthplace on HN this
       | morning. Some of these places are even new to me. I hadn't heard
       | of Crump's sink, for example, which seems to be a more recent
       | find.
        
       | kennend3 wrote:
       | Got to love Geoblocking, especially this one.
       | 
       | what would be accomplished by geoblocking a states's tourism
       | site?
       | 
       | Isn't the core point of state sites like this to attract
       | tourists? Does geoblocking them help with this goal?
       | 
       | Some years ago Arizona paid to put very large advertisements in
       | downtown Toronto (Canada) to attract cold candians in the
       | winter... things like that may work, geoblocking certainly wont.
        
         | bcook wrote:
         | > what would be accomplished by geoblocking a states's tourism
         | site?
         | 
         | Avoiding GDPR compliance problems?
        
           | kennend3 wrote:
           | A state tourism site complying with GDPR shoudn't be that
           | challenging:
           | 
           | The UK GDPR sets out seven key principles: - Lawfulness,
           | fairness and transparency. - Purpose limitation. - Data
           | minimisation. - Accuracy. - Storage limitation. - Integrity
           | and confidentiality (security) - Accountability.
           | 
           | Dont keep track of any user info and you should be OK?
           | 
           | Many of the blocked countries dont have GDPR regulations, so
           | there is that.
           | 
           | There is also the vast majority of US government sites which
           | are not geoblocked.
           | 
           | https://kentucky.gov/Pages/home.aspx - works just fine from
           | Canada?
        
           | mod wrote:
           | Would it be common for a local government within a country to
           | confirm to the law of another country?
           | 
           | Is there a compelling reason besides being friendly? Like
           | treaties or something?
        
         | chasd00 wrote:
         | i bet you whoever wrote the rfp for the website copy/pasted
         | most of it from some other rfp that listed "prevent login from
         | outside the US" as a requirement since that's needed to comply
         | with some regulations for apps storing data. Even though
         | there's no login the contractor shrugged and "prevented
         | _access_ from outside the US". I'll bet you lunch that's
         | exactly what happened.
         | 
         | edit: and i'll add that the team who put the site together is
         | long gone and the people who maintain content (if any) have no
         | idea what geoblocking even is. So don't bother sending them an
         | email...
        
       | kevmo wrote:
       | Kentucky rules.
        
       | dlyons wrote:
       | Sitting in Louisville, KY hacking away on some Python and
       | Typescript this morning. AMA.
        
         | phlyingpenguin wrote:
         | Which is better: Wick's or Danny Mac's?
        
           | WorldMaker wrote:
           | I don't think Wick's has ever been in the top spot in
           | Louisville pizza. The last Impellizerri's just forever closed
           | (in N'Albany), sadly, but Bearno's was always better than
           | Wick's. (People are welcome to fight me on that. Wick's gets
           | higher rated in people's heads sometimes simply because of
           | its proximity to bars and usefulness as drunk food. Take off
           | the drunk goggles and its not as good as you think.) Then
           | there's all the recent up-and-comers like The Post.
        
             | silisili wrote:
             | You're right...Wick's has always been overrated(and
             | overpriced).
             | 
             | Bearno's is probably my favorite pizza ever. I've since
             | moved all over the US, and haven't found a damn thing that
             | comes close in taste or style. It's definitely a love/hate
             | relationship...you either love a billion tiny meatballs, or
             | don't.
        
           | ducharmdev wrote:
           | Never been to Wick's but Danny Mac's is heaven
        
           | dpcx wrote:
           | Also Louisvillian, Danny Macs imho.
        
         | mrtranscendence wrote:
         | By which factor greater than 1 is Lexington superior to
         | Louisville? I'd say 5x but I'm curious to get a Louisville
         | resident's opinion.
        
           | phlyingpenguin wrote:
           | They've got us on the beer factor and higher education. Not
           | sports, but eff college sports anyway. Looking forward to
           | going down for Lexington SC some though.
        
       | dan353hehe wrote:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20220928125007/https://archaeolo...
       | 
       | For anyone geoblocked
        
       | virgulino wrote:
       | Geoblocking? I am in Brazil and all I see is this:
       | The request is blocked.              0kEE0YwAAAADSrOoEHVCAQrfsFyH
       | 2VJaQR1JVMzBFREdFMDgyMQBjZTgwMzljZS04NTZjLTRkYzktYjgwZC02MzlhMDg1
       | MmY4Mzk=
        
         | jessaustin wrote:
        
           | SoundsLikeAScam wrote:
           | That response doesn't sound right, this reads more like a
           | stereotype of Kentuckians. Can you back up your claims?
           | 
           | I find it hard to believe a government official would respond
           | so unprofessionally.
        
             | rufusroflpunch wrote:
             | > I know Kentuckians aren't the smartest
             | 
             | This is more offensive than the obvious joke you're
             | responding to. Unless you're participating in jokeception.
        
               | mmmpop wrote:
               | It's rude but it has a grain of truth. Now it's silly to
               | think that Kentucky is incapable of producing mind-
               | bogglingly talented people, but you're far less likely to
               | encounter them outside of probably 3 concentrated
               | population areas. I went to college in Lexington and
               | there are a great deal of very smart, very motivated
               | people and the average person you encounter daily can
               | hold a reasonably intelligent conversation. But in
               | fairness to the comment, head east and you run into
               | populations where the average intelligence is a dramatic
               | departure from the average population of your Madisons or
               | Boulders of the world. How much is nature vs nurture is
               | up for debate but I think you'd be kidding yourself if
               | you claimed it was strictly one of the two and not some
               | combination.
        
               | SoundsLikeAScam wrote:
               | Sorry, my comment wasn't helpful in the least.
        
           | phlyingpenguin wrote:
           | Please keep in mind that real people live in Kentucky and
           | joke stereotyping it as you have is both unhelpful to
           | progress and downright hurtful to those of us trying to make
           | it a better place to live.
        
             | rufusroflpunch wrote:
             | I'm a proud Kentuckian, and I thought it was amusing.
        
               | phlyingpenguin wrote:
               | I agree that it's amusing as a joke made in context with
               | friends over a beer. Not so much where the primary
               | audience is the globe.
        
             | jessaustin wrote:
             | I live near my birthplace in the Ozarks of southern
             | Missouri. I've spent a lot of time in Kentucky, as well.
             | I'm not "punching down" ITT. One way to "make it a better
             | place" would be to leave a comment on the form like I did.
             | Kentucky residents probably have other options as well...
        
               | mmmpop wrote:
               | I'm from the hills of KY and I left for a reason, so I
               | find this not-insulting especially if the teller of the
               | joke is also from some backwoods.
               | 
               | But I have a soft spot for the people whom I left
               | obviously, and won't tolerate highbrow coast-dwellers
               | being jerks for no good reason. These hill folks tend be
               | victims of their own boredoms caused by an independent
               | nature that was once a highly desirable trait when we
               | talk about survival... but victims of inevitable progress
               | and deserve help/pity instead of scorn. Except those who
               | deserve scorn, ya know??
        
         | robga wrote:
         | Interesting that the apparent base64 encoding doesnt decode to
         | anything sensible. Sort of thing you'd see on a CTF challenge
         | ...
         | 
         | What's the encoding and/or content all about?
        
         | r0n22 wrote:
         | Same getting blocked in Canada
        
           | randlet wrote:
           | Same. Too bad as I recently spent a couple of days
           | motorcycling through Kentucky and there were some beautiful
           | parts of that state.
        
         | twic wrote:
         | Brit here, also blocked, with a similar message, but to be
         | fair, if that website had any good ancient artefacts on it i'd
         | be over there to steal them in a flash, so maybe it's for the
         | best.
        
         | brudgers wrote:
         | Since it is a government website, I suspect that foreign IP
         | have a strong historical correlation with mischief.
         | 
         | Particularly because mostly forgotten webpages like this one
         | are an attractive nuisance for black hats, banning foreign IP's
         | was probably a best-practice argument.
         | 
         | There's also the possibility that a sudden uptick in activity
         | (HN slashsot effect) triggered an internal mechanism.
         | 
         | And politically, I suspect there wouldn't be a lot of pushback
         | to any of it.
         | 
         | But I could be wrong.
        
           | kennend3 wrote:
           | out of interest i tried the states main site
           | https://kentucky.gov/Pages/home.aspx
           | 
           | works just fine from Canada?
        
             | brudgers wrote:
             | Doesn't surprise me that the portal isn't geofenced because
             | it is likely to be well maintained, monitored, and funded
             | for business reasons.
             | 
             | Stare Archeology websites don't have the same incentives
             | for IT attention...I mean the one here isn't even very
             | "Web2.0".
        
         | Namari wrote:
         | Or the UK
        
         | kadenwolff wrote:
         | Same
        
       | ramesh31 wrote:
       | Mammoth Cave, included in this list, also happens to be the
       | longest known cave system in the world [0].
       | 
       | [0] https://www.doi.gov/blog/mammoth-cave-explore-worlds-
       | longest....
        
         | sprkwd wrote:
         | But watch out! Kentucky Cave Goblins!!
         | https://www.andersondesigngroupstore.com/a/collections/61-am...
        
       | glonq wrote:
       | If the official slogan for Kentucky archaeology is not "go deeper
       | with KY" then I am disappointed.
        
       | mauvehaus wrote:
       | If you're going to visit the Florence archaeological site[0], you
       | may as well go see the famous water tower[1]:
       | 
       | [0] https://archaeology.ky.gov/Find-a-Site/Pages/Florence.aspx
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Y'all_Water_Tower
        
         | mrtranscendence wrote:
         | I was born and raised in Florence. I've always been fascinated
         | by how widely the water tower is known; as far away as Boston
         | I've had someone remark on it upon learning that I'm from
         | there.
         | 
         | I'm not sure Florence has all that much else to recommend it,
         | mind you. Of all the suburban towns surrounding Cincinnati,
         | it's definitely one of them.
        
           | eutropia wrote:
           | Florence has one of my favorite roadside eateries: the Quaker
           | Steak & Lube! (known for their chicken wings, lol)
           | 
           | Any time we drive to the Ikea in Cinci from KY, we'll get hot
           | wings on the way home.
        
             | mauvehaus wrote:
             | How do you have room for wings after eating the meatballs
             | at IKEA?
        
             | mod wrote:
             | What makes the wings so good?
             | 
             | (My business is known for its chicken wings as well, just
             | comparing notes!)
        
               | mauvehaus wrote:
               | I would submit that they actually aren't that good on an
               | absolute scale. Relative to other widely available chain
               | wings, perhaps, and I suspect that's why they have such a
               | strong following.
               | 
               | Mind you, I haven't had them in years and now live almost
               | 7 hours from the nearest Quaker Steak and Lube. My
               | recollection may be flawed.
        
               | mod wrote:
               | Fair. I'm not a fan of any of the chain wings.
               | 
               | Our recipe is simple: decent sized wings, deep fried
               | naked, sauced and served. Good sauces matter, of course.
               | 
               | Given how easy that is, it's amazing to me that almost
               | nobody else has good wings (at least around here). I'm
               | not sure what they're doing differently.
        
       | OedipusRex wrote:
       | Mammoth Cave is worth the visit if you're in the area.
        
         | mod wrote:
         | Went as a kid, it was badass.
        
           | OedipusRex wrote:
           | I was there a few years ago and the power went out for a few
           | seconds and everyone just froze in place lol
        
       | aklemm wrote:
       | Would love to see a Google Map of the sites included.
        
       | kathysgeek wrote:
       | For geology lovers: https://kgs.uky.edu/kygeode/geomap/
       | 
       | Two meteor craters are visible as "broken windows". Middlesboro
       | crater in the extreme southeast and Jeptha Knob near Frankfort
       | (north central).
        
       | kadenwolff wrote:
       | If you're interested in the magic of Kentucky:
       | 
       | http://kentuckyroutezero.com/
        
         | nulbyte wrote:
         | This is such a fascinating and engaging game! I don't recall
         | where I found it, but I definitely agree.
        
         | WorldMaker wrote:
         | Relatedly, the original Colossal Cave Adventure, often known
         | simply as "Adventure", which was a very early videogame and
         | inspired so many others that followed (including the Zork
         | franchise and Kentucky Route Zero) was loosely inspired by the
         | creators' caving expeditions in Kentucky's Mammoth Cave
         | (National Park) and some of the rooms and room descriptions in
         | Colossal Cave Adventure even match up with real Mammoth Cave
         | rooms. (Though my attempts to use the magic word XYZZY to
         | shortcut to find Dragon hoarded gold at the real Mammoth Cave
         | seem to always fail.)
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure
        
       | auditor_3d wrote:
       | A new website that showcases 120 archaeologically significant
       | sites in Kentucky,USA
        
       | daveevad wrote:
       | As someone who grew up in Kentucky but now works in the Bay Area,
       | what is the tech scene like back home these days?
        
         | throwaway168519 wrote:
         | Also in Lexington doing remote work - don't know too much about
         | the local tech scene. Seems rather limited and the best option
         | is to work remotely for a higher wage and take advantage of the
         | lower COL in the area.
        
         | reportingsjr wrote:
         | In northern KY it's about as you would expect. Limited, but
         | there are a handful of companies doing interesting things.
        
         | ducharmdev wrote:
         | Lots of .NET
        
           | silisili wrote:
           | That's the whole Midwest, for some odd reason. As a Linux guy
           | since childhood, I've always had to find remote work.
        
         | primeradical wrote:
         | Lex here, not bad for remote work, low cost of living, access
         | to surrounding metro areas (Lou, Cinci), and Lex usually has
         | something going on. Just got access to gigabit fiber so you're
         | not disconnected from the rest of the world either.
        
         | WorldMaker wrote:
         | Same as it ever was: most local "big" tech employers (and VCs)
         | still hugely (and sometimes myopically, looking at you local
         | VCs) focused on Health Insurance or are otherwise Healthcare
         | adjacent.
         | 
         | But yeah, also still a lovely place for remote work, if you can
         | get it, given the cost of living/quality of life.
        
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