[HN Gopher] A beginners guide to Esperanto (2003)
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A beginners guide to Esperanto (2003)
Author : simonebrunozzi
Score : 35 points
Date : 2022-09-27 19:55 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| nivenkos wrote:
| Mi parolas Esperanton kaj mi rekomendas uzu la librojn Teach
| Yourself Esperanto kaj la novajn Enjoy Esperanto kaj Complete
| Esperanto de Tim Owen, kaj na Lernu.net kaj Duolingo.
| plumeria wrote:
| Dankon, mi estas komencanto.
| flipcoder wrote:
| Great video on it if anyone wants an overview of the basics:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCiFMD8RNbg
|
| And here's a cheat sheet:
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| https://i.imgur.com/zMMY7CL.jpg
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| It's very fun to learn and I highly recommend it!
| panxyh wrote:
| The language really is as easy to adapt as advertised. Too bad it
| got clamped, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it suddently
| resurfaced among youth as some koombayah meme.
| scroot wrote:
| One of the more interesting parts of the Esperanto story is
| that right at the moment when world organizations were starting
| to take it seriously (in this case, the defunct League of
| Nations), the movement split between the users of Ido -- a
| spinoff of Esperanto -- and the Esperantists themselves. It was
| due to this split that the League failes to make a firm
| recommendation on a specific international auxiliary language,
| because they were waiting to see what would happen
| shadowofneptune wrote:
| Of note is that the LoN effort was championed by Japan and
| China. This may be surprising if you know how Esperanto draws
| mostly from Polish and other European languages, but consider
| that the contemporary diplomatic languages were French and
| English (still are). It would have put everyone on a more
| even footing.
| sshine wrote:
| I think it'll continue to be this undying language that done
| people perpetually pick up.
|
| Takes 3-6 months to learn fluently, and a lifetime to find
| other speakers. ;-)
|
| Maybe in the next 100 years, some neo hippie collective of a
| not insignificant size decides to make it the preferred
| language of their community. It'd be cool to walk into a part
| of a city where Esperanto is the norm, like Chinatown or the
| Jewish neighbourhood.
| runarberg wrote:
| I think every 10th comment I make on HN is arguing against
| the notion that technology will fix the problem. But I think
| now I'm gonna do the opposite. It seems like technology is
| indeed well on its way of making the need of an international
| auxiliary language obsolete.
|
| For government functions live translation is something
| skilled translators can do pretty easily, and for common
| folks, live machine translations is getting better and more
| accessible.
|
| I for example read many tweets written in languages I don't
| understand. And I think it is only a matter of time before
| other social platforms (including GitHub and HN) catches on
| to provide accessible translation tools so people can read
| and write in their native language, and have machines
| translate for them.
|
| As for communicating face to face, surely there could be a
| device (or more likely a phone app) that does that, but
| mostly I think people will just continue to learn an
| auxiliary language or two and find a common language to
| communicate in, only using the translation app as a backup in
| emergencies.
| 7thaccount wrote:
| Yep. A few months of just very casual study took me MUCH
| further than 3 years of daily Spanish in school. The regular
| grammar and 10,000 other nice additions takes so many
| complexities out of the language. It also just sounds beautiful
| to me.
| pixelpoet wrote:
| Maybe they could do a guide on English apostrophes next.
| creativeembassy wrote:
| If anyone else is interested in learning it, I'm getting back
| into it via Duolingo and that's working well for me so far.
| sshine wrote:
| Mi opinias ke lernu.net estas bona hejmpago por lerni
| Esperanton.
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| My first experience with Esperanto left me disillusioned
| because it looked silly. It tries to be universal by becoming
| a Frankenstein monster of the most popular languages. And the
| diacritics, it could have taken the opportunity to reduce
| them to the minimum indispensable, but no. Page = pago for
| some weird reason.
|
| I've always wanted to learn Loglan/Lojban because of that,
| but those are even more niche.
| flipcoder wrote:
| I set up my keyboard so I can type the additional letters
| with the right alt key. There are keyboard layout options
| for Windows, Mac, and Linux as well as mobile keyboards.
|
| For example: Right alt + c = c
|
| For linux its pretty simple, you just have to use:
| setxkbmap -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option
| esperanto:qwerty
| plumeria wrote:
| If you use iOS you can download the Esperanto keyboard
| (Esperanta Klavaro) [0]
|
| [0] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/esperanta-
| klavaro/id957192189
| mordechai9000 wrote:
| Saluton! Me too. I like the app but find the attempts at
| gamification a little annoying. I wish I could just turn all
| that off.
| anthk wrote:
| Just learn Spanish. It's almost the same, it blended lots of
| words from Iberian languages and the spelling it's even more
| simple.
| Cyberdog wrote:
| I don't understand why someone would learn something like
| Esperanto when they can put that time and effort into learning a
| language that people actually use in the real world instead.
|
| Now excuse me as I go back to making a Snake clone in Zig.
| AussieWog93 wrote:
| To be fair, if you're a native English speaker learning a
| second language, you'll probably get just as much out of
| learning Esperanto as you would German or French or Indonesian.
|
| At the end of the day, it's a hobby.
| maw wrote:
| Those languages have extensive literatures which you could
| read in the original. Esperanto doesn't.
| orwin wrote:
| Because it is very easy to learn and help learn more languages.
|
| Since its a mix between Romance, Slav and Germanic, it can
| easily act as a gateway, like if you speak a romance language
| and want to learn Slavic, starting with Romanian the learning
| Russian will be easier.
| anthk wrote:
| With Spanish you cover Latin America, Spain a good chunk of
| the US, 33% of the English language and a big chunk of
| Lusosphere, Francosphere and Italosphere.
| LAC-Tech wrote:
| Lots of reasons.
|
| First a lot of us native English speakers are monolingual,
| because that's all we need to be. A lot of us view fluency in
| another language as something reserved for incredibly
| intelligent people. Esperanto is so easy to learn that it
| disabuses us of that notion.
|
| Secondly, linguistic curiosity. What's a constructed language
| designed to be easy to use actually like? Is it as easy as
| people say it is?
|
| Lastly, community. There aren't as many esperanto speakers as
| there are Hindi or Spanish or Mandarin speakers, sure. No one
| is denying that. But a brief search suggests there's 100,000
| active speakers, which isn't nothing.
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