[HN Gopher] Decipad - Like Notion with problem-solving capabilities
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       Decipad - Like Notion with problem-solving capabilities
        
       Author : g-camargo
       Score  : 165 points
       Date   : 2022-09-21 14:35 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.decipad.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.decipad.com)
        
       | avgcorrection wrote:
       | > Can I afford a
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       | No.
        
       | g-camargo wrote:
       | I've been working on Decipad. It's a low-code notebook to tell
       | stories with numbers and build interactive models. It's like
       | Notion with spreadsheet-like capabilities. You can build and
       | publish interactive notebooks for things like forecasting, burn
       | rate, a mortgage calculator, or just something fun.
       | 
       | We're testing with early access users. Would be grateful for any
       | feedback if you're interested! Decipad.com
        
         | johnhenry wrote:
         | Is this like formulas (https://www.notion.so/help/formulas) on
         | steroids?
        
           | melony wrote:
           | I think it's more like https://causal.app
        
         | lilyball wrote:
         | Is there any way to try it out interactively without having to
         | sign up for early access? When I loaded the website and I read
         | what it said about changing Discount Rate, I immediately tried
         | clicking around to actually do that and see the change but of
         | course it didn't work.
        
       | light_hue_1 wrote:
       | I might have been a user if I could access it without signing up
       | to try it out.
       | 
       | Having to give my email, click a link, set up an account, etc.
       | just to see what this is to decide if I want to use it, is far
       | too high of a barrier to entry.
        
       | valyagolev wrote:
       | i wonder if it would be cool to have generalized "task"
       | management in the form of embedded Prolog-like (basically make
       | queries through unification)
        
       | r2sk5t wrote:
       | Congrats! Whether it's Notion, Google Docs/Sheet/Slides, Coda,
       | Figma, Adobe Cloud, iCloud, Slack, Google Drive, One Drive, etc.
       | the issue for me is content management and SSO. There is a high
       | bar to get anointed to manage content inside a company/team.
       | 
       | For example, we use Office 365 and OneDrive for file management.
       | But, I prefer Keynote over PowerPoint. Saving Keynote to OneDrive
       | folders works perfectly fine. Of course that means anyone who
       | wants to edit my documents needs OneDrive and Keynote, but that's
       | reasonable for our team.
       | 
       | To use Decipad, Notion, Coda, Google Docs etc. We would need a
       | way to manage the documents in OneDrive, an authentication
       | mechanism so that the documents can be open and edited from
       | OneDrive. Whether it's OneDrive, Box, DropBox, or GDrive my issue
       | might be the same for others.
       | 
       | Just rewrite the software to run on Mac & Windows and save
       | documents as files, and then we would give it a try :-)
        
         | Terretta wrote:
         | Or at least the SSO + a full audit trail.
        
       | phren0logy wrote:
       | Nice! Reminds me of the native MacOS apps Numi and Soulver. But
       | being web-based and understanding python opens up a lot of
       | interesting possibilities that those apps don't have.
        
       | personjerry wrote:
       | Be careful, the name sounds a bit like it's a feminine hygiene
       | product
        
       | ibdf wrote:
       | I wish Notion would allow people to build third-party
       | plugins/add-ons. This looks really cool but it would be so much
       | cooler if it build on top of everything Notion already does.
        
         | djhaskin987 wrote:
         | Yes, but then you would end up with, well, Confluence.
        
           | cheriot wrote:
           | Let's be fair, none of the products mentioned in these
           | comments are as bad as Confluence.
        
       | Rafsark wrote:
       | That's probably something I would see "on-top" of Notion. I
       | really like the formulas on steroid, but having another tool
       | inside the company is a bit painful. Notion team could authorize
       | add-ons built on top...
        
         | KMnO4 wrote:
         | OTOH, I'm desperate for a tool that's "like Notion, but
         | better", where my primary definition of "better" is that it's
         | not slow/bloated.
         | 
         | If this is lightweight AND has these cool data modelling
         | features then I'm on board.
        
           | vthommeret wrote:
           | They've started to move their iOS app to native views which
           | has made a big difference so seems like they're prioritizing
           | performance.
        
         | jitl wrote:
         | Maybe one day! I'd like us to do something like this but it's
         | probably more than a year in the future.
        
         | k__ wrote:
         | If it less laggy than Notion, that would already be enough for
         | me.
        
       | unwoundmouse wrote:
       | What did you use for UI, is this tailwind? looks really clean
        
       | zbhoy wrote:
       | This is really interesting! I have been keeping an eye on the low
       | code number modeling scene and it's great to see a mix on the
       | usual spreadsheet + X.
       | 
       | I applied for early access but I wanted to ask how you balance
       | the amount of spreadsheet and modeling you expose vs keeping it
       | out of sight?
        
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         | g-camargo wrote:
         | Thanks a bunch! It's really early stages here... but we're so
         | excited with the possibilities this tool will unlock.
         | 
         | It's been a big topic that we talk about a lot as a team as we
         | continue to build. We ultimately want to give creators the
         | control on how they want to share and present their model. And,
         | give the reader/collaborator some controls on how they want to
         | consume it. But, we also want to make it easier for people to
         | understand what different calculations mean and how the model
         | works so they can learn and collaborate more effectively. One
         | approach we've been exploring as we build Decipad is a more
         | human way to write calculations that are easier to read and
         | understand.
        
       | PaulHoule wrote:
       | Nice to see something follow in the footsteps of
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TK_Solver
        
       | leobg wrote:
       | Would like to see a demo video. Reading through the landing page
       | doesn't really tell me what this does, or how are using it would
       | work.
        
         | SCLeo wrote:
         | Agreed. Or, since it is an interactive application, it would be
         | very nice to just show a interactable demo on the front page.
        
       | skybrian wrote:
       | Too bad the documentation isn't online. What does it use for
       | formulas? How do you share notebooks? Do you need the app to view
       | them?
       | 
       | I'm pretty happy with Observable's notebooks. It means you need
       | to know JavaScript, though, and furthermore learn Observable's
       | quirks [1] and a plotting library.
       | 
       | [1] https://observablehq.com/@observablehq/observables-not-
       | javas...
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | ryanianian wrote:
         | Ya, weird. The landing page gives almost no information about
         | what it's like to actually use it. Not even an example
         | workbook/file to tinker with the possible finished-products.
        
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