[HN Gopher] How James Clear is writing his next book (2021)
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       How James Clear is writing his next book (2021)
        
       Author : nyc111
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2022-09-18 12:54 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | rcarr wrote:
       | One of his articles helped me in a debate about a codebase once.
       | There were two camps at the company. One camp believed that we
       | should be looking to optimise the code we wrote by choosing
       | faster options such as for loops over slower chain functions such
       | as forEach (application was written in Typescript, I don't know
       | if this is the case for all languages). The other camp classified
       | these kinds of changes as micro optimisations. I belonged to the
       | former. The code base was huge and the application was slow
       | bordering on unusable.
       | 
       | I used the Dave Brailsford British Cycling analogy from Atomic
       | Habits that the aggregation of marginal gains can result in big
       | changes on the macro level. Or put in other words, one non-
       | optimised function might not make much of a difference but lots
       | of them in a massive code base with millions of lines most
       | certainly does. My co-worker's response was that he was not sure
       | that the analogy from cycling transferred over to coding but I
       | could tell that it was at least giving him pause for thought.
       | 
       | In reality, there were many reasons for how slow that codebase
       | was. There were most certainly bigger fish, but I still believe
       | that choosing more optimal language options where possible would
       | have helped.
        
       | galfarragem wrote:
       | I'm using Github to write mine.. It's acessible from all devices
       | and has markdown rendering out of the box.
        
         | bee_rider wrote:
         | Working on an academic paper in LaTeX at the moment. I've got
         | this feeling in the back of my head that just trying to produce
         | a work fully from my own head seems inefficient. Why not just
         | throw it up on github, then post it here? In the very least all
         | my little grammatical errors would be quickly highlighted.
        
       | prionassembly wrote:
       | I wrote a Python script (it's so shoddy and easy to recreate I
       | won't even share) that will (1) look for definitions as
       | words/expressions between asterisks (2) look for dependencies
       | (words that should be defined beforehand) and (3) produce
       | paragraph-paragraph graph -> minimum spanning tree -> toposort.
       | 
       | The plan is to take five-ish years of blog material that's nearly
       | unreadable to people who haven't followed it from the beginning
       | and produce ordered text.
        
       | kleiba wrote:
       | There must be a better tool for professional writers than Google
       | Docs?!
        
         | greymalik wrote:
         | I'm not a professional, but I find Scrivener [1] invaluable.
         | Having 600 pages of unstructured, unorganized text would be a
         | nightmare for me.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener/overview
        
           | thenerdhead wrote:
           | I used Scrivener to write my two books:
           | 
           | https://jondouglas.dev/enough & https://jondouglas.dev/ptp
           | 
           | Scrivener is not so great for collaborating though. Nobody on
           | Reedsy seemed to know about the tool from the editor
           | perspective and all asked for Word/Google Docs/Pdf.
        
         | andrei_says_ wrote:
         | Just finished publishing a 600+ page book for a writer.
         | 
         | The collaboration features of Google Docs streamline work with
         | a proofreader and editor better than anything else I've seen.
         | 
         | Author writes, editor / proofreader suggest changes, author
         | approves.
         | 
         | All updates tracked and fairly easy to revert.
         | 
         | After editing, docs are exported to rtf and placed in indesign.
         | 
         | Google docs are intuitive and easier to use than ms word. No
         | more sending files back and forth.
         | 
         | Haven't seen a better process yet. Some editors still request a
         | printed manuscript for them to put hand-written notes on ;)
        
           | kleiba wrote:
           | That makes sense, however, that's already the final stages of
           | the product. I have my doubts that Google Docs is the best
           | choice for the creation of the first draft, though. Once you
           | have that, everything that comes after that is surely in good
           | hands with a traditional word processor, and as you point
           | out, the strength of Google Docs over Word etc. lies in its
           | collaborative abilities.
        
         | sn41 wrote:
         | I am not a professional writer, but among the paid tools I have
         | used in the past, I find Scrivener to be pretty nice in helping
         | me organize views. I however find its LaTeX support not very
         | satisfactory, but probably that is not their main target
         | market.
        
         | bluenose69 wrote:
         | For me, it's vim editing latex files, with git for version
         | control. Others might choose emacs as an editor, but the other
         | decisions are pretty common in my field (physical science).
        
           | kleiba wrote:
           | You haven't switched to Overleaf for collaborative editing
           | yet?
        
             | cinntaile wrote:
             | Overleaf is not really suited for non-technical people,
             | it's not even suited for technical people that are
             | unfamiliar with latex. They could make it much better if
             | you could annotate on the pdf instead for non-technical
             | people and that these annotations (and or changes) get
             | translated to the latex files so the author sees them in
             | the right place as well.
        
               | kleiba wrote:
               | Grandparent is a scientist who's familiar with latex.
        
               | cinntaile wrote:
               | Oh! Then he should give Overleaf a try. Be sure to split
               | up the files so you're not working in the same document
               | at the exact same time, this is sometimes problematic
               | when pressing compile.
        
         | blackbrokkoli wrote:
         | I don't think the final edition is going to be made by going to
         | Export To PDF in Google Docs. He seems to be mostly using it as
         | a paste dump, then refining it into chapters, dumping it down,
         | formatting slowly. For that, Google Docs really seems as good
         | as any, no?
        
           | kleiba wrote:
           | I don't know. Google Docs is a linear tool for linear text,
           | mostly. But the process you describe is anything but linear -
           | it resembles a slow conversion from an unstructured mess to a
           | final text. Intuitively, there seems to be a mismatch between
           | that process and a classic word processor.
        
         | vinner_roy wrote:
         | Working on this over at pagespace.app, looking for cofounders
         | if anyone is interested! Notion-like writing experience is the
         | goal with the ability to sell via subscription or per unit.
        
       | Lwepz wrote:
       | >When you have a big concept in the back of your mind, it becomes
       | a filter that everything you experience runs through
       | 
       | This is so true, to the point where sometimes you feel possessed
       | by the concept and not the other way around. The concept harvests
       | your human experience to make its way into the real world. It
       | defines your notion of signal and noise, it restlessly samples
       | patterns in the real world that might help its incarnation.
       | Sometimes due to predisposition, part of the concept is hardware
       | implemented which means you never really get to experience what
       | it's like to live without this concept driving your life.
       | 
       | The concept carefully arranges your dreams, strikes you with
       | overwhelming visions that feel more real that your clearest
       | memories and skilfully crafts your personality.
       | 
       | For those who feel as though they are concept integrators, do not
       | allow concepts to mistreat you. They don't belong to our world,
       | they don't care about the totality of human experience, they
       | operate on timescales far greater than that of our precious lives
       | and our civilisation as a whole is still far too primitive to
       | bear their throughput.
        
       | thenerdhead wrote:
       | It's crazy to think it has already been 4 years since he released
       | this book. I read it when it first came out and thought it was
       | life-changing. Then I started to read other habit books and
       | realized the ideas are the same, just his writing was more
       | practical than academics.
       | 
       | I then started to read old self-help from the 1800s/1900s and
       | realized the format was pretty similar(think Orson Swett Marden)
       | of chapters related around real-life stories of success to drive
       | the points home.
       | 
       | I'm excited to see what he comes up with next. He's a great
       | writer. I hope the dilemma of being a #1 NYT best seller doesn't
       | prevent him from continuing to author books regardless of how
       | good they are. In other words, I hope he breaks out of the
       | "habits guy" persona as he has much more great material to write
       | books about.
        
         | WA wrote:
         | > chapters related around real-life stories of success to drive
         | the points home
         | 
         | I'm so torn on this. Because this is the fluff of (American)
         | business books. The endless stories, all suffering from
         | survivorship bias, unnecessarily inflating the book. But
         | sometimes, a good story helps.
         | 
         | One of my favorite books about running a small software company
         | is "Rework" from the 37signals guys. I also read "Getting
         | Real", which came before, is kinda the same book plus stories.
         | 
         | I enjoyed Rework without the stories a lot more.
        
         | tessierashpool wrote:
         | James Clear is an incredible marketer. I blogged about the same
         | stuff ten years ago and read books covering all the same
         | material at the time as well. The only stuff I actually learned
         | from James Clear was a few mnemonics, i.e., there were a few
         | times he rephrased existing knowledge in a way that was easier
         | to remember.
         | 
         | Mostly, though, he is just fantastic at marketing. He's a good
         | writer, but that's not the thing to learn from him, in my
         | opinion. He has email lists, a podcast strategy -- I forgot the
         | rest but he gets deep into it.
        
           | humanlion87 wrote:
           | +10 to this. I would actually recommend Tiny Habits by BJ
           | Fogg (whose research is referenced to in Atomic Habits) as a
           | more complete book with regards to this topic.
        
             | insightcheck wrote:
             | Seconded. The approach is very readable and also happens to
             | be from an academic perspective, as BJ Fogg is a Stanford
             | professor of psychology. I also liked the list of suggested
             | potentially useful habits at the back of the book.
        
           | cinntaile wrote:
           | I was subscribed to his newsletter for a while but his style
           | just didn't click for me, it felt kind of trite.
        
             | insightcheck wrote:
             | [EDIT: This comment is wrong, and can't be deleted; I
             | misremembered James Clear as Scott Young, apologies.] On
             | the one hand, most of Clear's writing is uncontroversial
             | and easy-to-read (which is why Atomic Habits took off
             | versus other habit books, as another commenter wrote).
             | However, I think a lot of his success comes from his past
             | moments of some controversy. The MIT challenge/the language
             | learning challenges were a bit controversial due to sowing
             | doubt, but earned [Scott Young] a lot of clout.
        
               | thenerdhead wrote:
               | Are you talking about someone else like Scott Young?
        
               | insightcheck wrote:
               | Yes, thanks for the catch. I made a mistake, and will
               | edit the comment to correct.
        
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