[HN Gopher] Note-taking isn't rocket science
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Note-taking isn't rocket science
Author : memorable
Score : 124 points
Date : 2022-09-18 09:26 UTC (13 hours ago)
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| Waterluvian wrote:
| I have a plug-in for VSCode where F6 opens a global markdown
| file. That's it. I use that for everything for years and I love
| it.
|
| I usually purge it every six months or so. Maybe I should keep a
| history, but so far I haven't needed one. Anything I feel like
| needs to be recorded for posterity goes into documentation or
| work wikis.
| jleyank wrote:
| Clairefontaine engineering ruled spiral notebook. There are
| various sizes but I prefer the larger one. Good paper feel, inks
| don't bleed and it survives riding about in a backpack with the
| laptop. Everything goes into it so there's only one item to
| remember. Pages are dated, key entries are highlighted. Bits can
| be scanned. If I know when something happened, I can scan
| backwards to restore state. Even random scribbles go in, and the
| gridded pages help drawings.
|
| "If you don't write it down, then it never happened...".
|
| Yeah, some do it with a keyboard, but I find it hard to draw,
| scribble or whatever when I have to switch devices or associate
| drawings with text. Eventually, they'll figure out a tech
| solution to all this but notebooks cost like $10-20, survive
| impact and even survive a bit of liquid.
|
| No, I didn't think this up myself. Merely watched a boss never
| lack info on what went down last meeting or last week.
| type0 wrote:
| > notebooks cost like $10-20, survive impact and even survive a
| bit of liquid.
|
| There are even liquid tolerable notebooks that are more like
| textile and even those are pretty inexpensive.
| bee_rider wrote:
| Paper-feel can be a big deal, though.
| cfraenkel wrote:
| If you really need the "if you don't write it down, then it
| never happened...", then get a real bound notebook with
| numbered pages. It's too easy to tear out a page in a wirebound
| book.
| i_like_apis wrote:
| It really sounds like the author is intimidated by someone in his
| personal life and is trying to mock them into doing less.
|
| Also, that "people be like" grammar sounds so offensively dumb.
| You loose all credibility for having anything smart to say
| instantly.
| chrisweekly wrote:
| Sentence 1: ok, valid take.
|
| Sentences 2,3: really funny (assuming it was deliberately
| ironic), considering "loose" -> "lose", and using an adverb to
| end a sentence, while critiquing grammar... ;b
| i_like_apis wrote:
| Well loose being a typo: you got me. But what's this noise
| about ending a sentence with an adverb?
|
| "People be doing" is dumb, objectively.
| GuB-42 wrote:
| I would be curious to know about actual note taking practices at
| NASA, especially regarding manned spaceflight.
|
| NASA is known to study every trivial aspect of everything,
| because when an hour of an astronaut in mission is worth more
| than a year of work for the average American, they stop being
| trivial. And I am sure that efficient note taking is one of these
| things NASA takes very seriously.
| dieselgate wrote:
| Fair enough points by Author but not very helpful for specifics.
| One thing that's helped me in school was taking notes however but
| then rewriting them in a more organized or neat fashion. Helps
| for clarity and information retention
| throwoutway wrote:
| > (And if you need an example of dead-simple note-taking, James
| Clear stores his notes in a multi-hundred Google document)
|
| I was reading the James Clear story this AM, and it was pretty
| eye-opening, particularly that he didn't actually know the story
| or points he was trying to make. Rather, he was collecting a
| bunch of anecdotes and then would work it into a narrative later.
|
| I've done something similar with ~100 pages of notes and it was a
| train wreck trying to iron it into something useful
| johnchristopher wrote:
| I remember reading an interview with Gibson and he described
| his writing process as "I have these ideas and pieces of the
| story but all intertwined like a messy audio tape out of its
| case". I don't know if he tries to iron it out when submitting
| the final script, what I like in his style certainly feels like
| the tape hasn't been neatly put back together.
| subprotocol wrote:
| Note taking is actually a big part of rocket science: Step 1.
| Take notes on rocket science Step 2. Discover and distill from
| notes the first principles that help decouple yourself from
| analog thinking Step 3. Engineer the most efficient rocket that
| can practically get you there
| blackbrokkoli wrote:
| > Get what works for you.
|
| Yes, I agree. What works for me however _is_ a fairly complex
| system (although the complexity is hidden in everyday usage) that
| took me several hundred hours to build, write and refine.
|
| Taking notes is not so hard. Feel free to use any paper in your
| reach or any software capable of storing text. The hard part is
| actually _using_ these notes. Getting something out of them.
| Relating them to other notes. Actually thinking "hey I have note
| for this?!" months later and executing on that thought. And then
| still have an input mode so casual that you also still input
| notes into your system.
|
| Of course you can elect to care or not to care about that, same
| as you can elect to not care about properly sharpened knifes,
| identifying birds by sounds or child rearing practices.
|
| But as with most things, if you care to do it well, it's anything
| but trivial.
| monkeydreams wrote:
| The point of notes is to use information that presented
| fleetingly, to drive further activity, inform decisions and
| guide expectations.
|
| The complexity must reside somewhere... but not during the
| moments I am taking notes.
| baq wrote:
| For me, the goal of taking notes on paper is to internalize the
| information. The act of writing it down is what helps to get
| there, not the fact the information is written down.
|
| IOW the best note taking system for me would be such that after
| I took notes I could just shred the notes and retain all the
| written down information in my head.
| ChrisSD wrote:
| I've recently simplified my note-taking workflow but there are
| complexities. IMHO, a note taking application needs a way to at
| least do the following with notes:
|
| * View and edit
|
| * Organise
|
| * Search
|
| * Sync
|
| All in one solutions can be nice but also lock you in. It is as
| the name says: all or nothing (well all or figure out how to
| migrate your notes to another application). My current workflow
| is to use different tools for different jobs. The downside is
| it's more to set up and it may not be suitable for everybody.
|
| * I use any markdown editor to view and edit notes
|
| * I use the filesystem to organise notes by broad categories
| (directories are never more than two deep)
|
| * I can use any tool I like for searching notes (my markdown
| editor(s) has one but I can also all use ripgrep or whatever tool
| I like)
|
| * I sync using my preferred cloud storage provider
|
| My markdown editor is doing most of the job of a note taking app
| but the point is I can seamless switch for something else without
| much hassle. Or use different ones on different platforms.
|
| This does require search tools to do a lot of heavy lifting when
| broad categories aren't enough to find something. But I've yet to
| find a better way (I've not had much success managing tags, they
| get messy fast).
| dangoor wrote:
| Obsidian[1] is an all-in-one solution that doesn't have much in
| the way of lock in. It fundamentally runs on Markdown files
| sitting in your filesystem (and you can even "reveal in Finder"
| from the UI). It has its own custom indexing to make things
| quick. They offer sync as a service, but people also use other
| sync solutions. They have a mobile app version to access notes
| elsewhere.
|
| Beyond just folders for categories and tags, Obsidian also
| supports easy linking between notes (and shows backlinks for
| the current note).
|
| In the end, it's great: should I decide Obsidian is no longer
| right for me, I have a bunch of Markdown on disk that I can
| take elsewhere.
|
| [1]: https://obsidian.md/
| meltyness wrote:
| So, looking through my notes here, rocket science is: $dv =
| -v_\text{ejection}(dm/m)$
|
| Then I ran Dijkstra's algorithm across my notes (903 pages, 90
| folder, 18MB), and the shortest pathway between rocket propulsion
| and communications (which is presumably the closest concept to
| "note-taking" represented in my obsidian vault),
|
| Communications and locomotion are both applications of physics --
| rocket propulsion being one specific model.
|
| By virtue of the fact that both tasks are physics, I would claim
| the inverse and say that note-taking is indeed rocket-science,
| and therefore complicated as the common metaphor would suggest
| you're implying.
|
| But then I loosened constraints (essentially 6 degrees-of-
| separation between communications and rocket propulsion), and
| came to the following realizations:
|
| - Ink, toner, and the advent of electronics like the laser
| printer, are owed at-least in part to the broad effort in science
| of the space race.
|
| - Additionally, since the flames of a rocket reach temperatures
| that would exceed human limitations, and the human limitation
| that speech is primary form of communications means that good
| note taking is a way to overcome a key human limitation I've
| identified.
|
| - And since presumably, human communications regarding models of
| physics resulted in the physical laws and principles that
| resulted in us producing the thrust force and exceeding the
| escape speed imposed due to the gravitational interaction using
| combustion -- note taking caused rocket science.
|
| Just my calculus on the situation.
| irishcarbomb777 wrote:
| Adobe Illustrator and other infinite canvas platforms provide a
| compelling case against this. Forcing yourself to draw pictures
| of what you're taking notes on especially in studying software
| systems where the ideas are abstract and not necessarily visual
| is really useful. The added ability to nest concepts inside other
| concepts like Russian doll note taking is also pretty
| interesting. You can also screen clip whole articles and paste
| them next to your drawings and notes. Infinite canvas note taking
| is probably the most useful thing I've ever discovered in terms
| of learning technical systems.
| mpalczewski wrote:
| For computer note taking, I love vim wiki. I used to use a Google
| doc but I really like how quick it is to open and navigate in
| vim.
|
| For paper note taking I like a good notebook with a fountain pen.
| Writing has become enjoyable once I re-discovered fountain pens
| for myself.
| vfinn wrote:
| I have had text file + folder system for over 4 years now, and I
| feel it iteratively gets better and better.
|
| The upper level (text file) category determines the high level
| structure, e.g. 01. todo; 03. ideas, concepts; 06. thoughts; 12.
| humour; 04. politics; 19. food; 05. self; 20. mathematics; 21.
| philosophy, etc, and the file itself contains high level
| remarks/thoughts, depending on how necessary it's to have
| subcategories. The folder is named after the text file category
| and it contains subcategories and material (research papers in
| pdf, pictures, sketches, etc). The system structure moves
| recursively downwards, although in most cases I only need 2
| levels. For example "19. food" has subcategories such as 01.
| vitamin content; 02. electrolytes; 03. meal design, etc, and
| these could have their own subcategories.
|
| I feel my system is like an externalized version of my ego
| (including extensions). As I put more content into the system, I
| become more aware of myself and my shortcomings and the
| thought/emotional patterns I have, and as I make changes to the
| system I develop/restructure my own thinking. It works really
| great, but I still haven't figured out 1) how to deal with the
| material in version control, because I'd like separate the text
| files that I put into git from sizeable material files; 2) how to
| automatize the backup process; 3) how to store sensitive data in
| git automatically (it would be nice if I could encrypt files in a
| meaningful way and still be able to have a measure of the size of
| the diff).
| freetanga wrote:
| Nice. Sometimes I wonder why we don't go full circle and bring
| back gopher. Your filing structure brought that idea back.
| kbos87 wrote:
| The post is short so I don't want to read too much into the
| authors intentions, but it seems like their logic may be
| suffering from a blind spot - that patterns and systems that look
| like unnecessary complexity from the outside might actually be in
| service of simplifying the use of those notes for the writer.
|
| You can't just look at a system you don't understand and deem it
| too complicated. You'd need some objective measure of how
| efficient and effective a note taking system is at doing its job
| - e.g., the speed a user can later find a particular note, or the
| success rate the user might have at querying their database of
| notes and getting back a quality answer.
| axiomsEnd wrote:
| I think he writes to people who have issues with starting due
| to decision paralysis due to multiple options. Complicated note
| systems are fine if they come from natural evolution of users
| "note enviroment", but a hell if you don't have any notes yet,
| and thus no idea if you should organise them by tags, date,
| lenght, topic, graph of links or their combination.
| rvieira wrote:
| Sure, but as long as it is digital plain text files.
|
| I've tried the minimal paper setup and it got to the point where:
|
| - Recall was terrible (both in-notes, i.e. no quick search and
| physical notebook misplaced at the most incovenient times)
|
| - Insane amounts of duplication (no easy linking to old notes)
|
| - Unshareability (couldn't lend notebook to colleague as it was
| personal, had to type it anyway)
|
| - No redundancy (dog ate notes)
|
| I now have a digital text file system. Although it is not a "NASA
| project", I can add searchability with basically any tool, easy
| linking (with tags or wikilinks to dates, topics, etc), copy-
| pasting and proper backup. It is portable across devices and OSes
| and allows me to perform simple (and complex) analysis with
| simple scripts if I need.
|
| Being simple text, I expect this system to scale for the rest of
| my life.
| sorokod wrote:
| In the heart of any note taking system is the note taker.
|
| People seriously underestimate the amount of self discipline and
| determination required to keep taking and grooming notes.
|
| Without that discipline the supporting software is quite
| irrelevant.
| Naga wrote:
| Agreed. I maintain a paper zettlekasten and have for about six
| months, but still growing strong. The key factor in deciding on
| paper is that the hard parts are 1. Writing at all, then 2.
| What to write. Software doesn't solve either of those problems
| samsquire wrote:
| Creating notes can also be used as a journal.
|
| My process is to create a GitHub repository and README.md file
| and create a # markdown heading for each entry with a simple name
| for the thought or description of the idea. Then I write a few
| paragraphs to a few pages of ideas.
|
| I number the markdown headings. GitHub has a indescript table of
| contents button in the top left of the README.md
|
| When I get to 100-300 I create a new repository and repeat.
|
| My computer ideas journal is kind of a blog and I write it in the
| open on GitHub. Here are links to it. There's over 450+ journal
| entries of computer software ideas, community ideas, algorithm
| ideas and software design ideas.
|
| https://GitHub.com/samsquire/ideas
| https://GitHub.com/samsquire/ideas2
| https://GitHub.com/samsquire/ideas3
|
| https://GitHub.com/samsquire/ideas4
| Semaphor wrote:
| From trying note-taking multiple times, I think my perfect note-
| taking systems involves markdown files that I sync myself. And
| then an AI goes over them, understands what I wrote, and the
| context, and organizes and interlinks those files. Turns out, the
| 2nd step is a bit harder than rocket science.
| cm42 wrote:
| (Also, emacs > vim)
| Xc43 wrote:
| I use Roam Research. It's just the tool I use. I use it because
| there was hype for it.
|
| I delved deep into meta note-taking with RR. Watched videos,
| participated in book clubs, built a zettelkasten, etc.
|
| While meta note-taking is not note-taking, I found the time spent
| meta note-taking meaningful. It is a reward on its own. The
| benefit, is that I now feel comfortable using my tool. And using
| it, I do.
|
| While I also prefer for each of my passing seconds to contribute
| to the production an artefact, if it is not the case then it is
| fine too. That is the distinction between project and hobby.
|
| I started as note-taking hobbyist and now I guess you could call
| me a note-taking pro :)
|
| Do not hate the hobbyist.
| infinityplus1 wrote:
| I simply use Gmail drafts. Good enough for taking basic notes on
| PC as well as my phone.
| forgotpwd16 wrote:
| >James Clear stores his notes in a multi-hundred Google document
|
| Seems author didn't even read the article linked.
|
| >Ideas I'm working on and anything relevant I come across all get
| dumped into Asana on my desktop. [...] I write in whatever comes
| to mind--a possible title, or a possible tagline.
|
| Arguably this is a form of notes.
|
| >I write and edit my books in Google Docs.
|
| So not used for keeping notes but more like assembling notes or
| various thoughts in coherent format.
|
| >I keep notes on what I read in Evernote.
|
| Last one is literally a section title.
| cush wrote:
| "Write better notes by writing notes". Thanks..?
|
| No idea what this blog post is getting at. Maybe they're trying
| to point out that consistently writing notes will produce higher
| quality notes than changing styles every 6 weeks?
| _visgean wrote:
| I agree with the general spirit of the article - so many
| developers are obsessed with finding the best system and quite a
| few even write their own. But I have not really seen people who
| spend that much energy on notes to be any more productive...
| Kinrany wrote:
| This post is practically devoid of content. Why do you care what
| other people spend their time on?
| ergocoder wrote:
| It's also tautological. Of course, we should use the note-
| taking approach that works for us.
|
| Who would agree with using a note-taking approach that does NOT
| work for you?
|
| One of the ways to figure out which note-taking approach works
| is to try the note-taking approaches from other people... It
| could be 18 multi-step note taking approach or it could be
| dead-simple. Unless you try, you won't know which one works for
| you.
| tobr wrote:
| Why do you care what other people care about?
| Kinrany wrote:
| Their posts end up on HN and make the signal-to-noise ratio
| worse.
| IsItThough wrote:
| As someone who has spent hours watching some "creative" person
| painfully "transition" from Notion to Obsidian, I can only echo
| this pithy response.
| sbdncuvh wrote:
| I tried to transition from years of loose txt files to
| obsidian.
|
| When I opened the folder the app showed me 1-2 files from
| years ago.
|
| Apparently it only supports .md files.
|
| I literally laughed out loud and deleted the app from my
| computer.
|
| You've got a damn knowledge map but handling txt files is
| beneath you?
|
| That app is doomed to obscurity.
| regularjack wrote:
| There's a plugin that adds support for txt files:
| https://github.com/deathau/txt-as-md-obsidian
| TotempaaltJ wrote:
| > That app is doomed to obscurity.
|
| Quite arrogant to assume that an app not supporting /your/
| specific note-taking workflow means it's "doomed to
| obscurity". It's a popular app with plenty of users, a
| healthy plugin community, and a team of six building it. I
| think that pretty obviously proves you wrong.
|
| If you were actually interested in trying it out, you
| could've simply run a quick find command.
|
| find . -name "*.txt" -exec rename -v 's/\\.txt$/\\.md/i' {}
| \;
| koheripbal wrote:
| Moreover, it's just advocating a specific extreme to a broad
| set of real-world situations in "just do it" fashion.
|
| There's usually a balance between planning and execution. Note
| taking is no different.
|
| There's no simple always solution to "plan meticulously" vs
| "just do it". Every choice in life is a cost-benefit analysis.
|
| Personally, I spent a little time to setup orgmode. Works for
| me.
| JoeAltmaier wrote:
| I use a paper notebook.
| viktorcode wrote:
| Let me mirror that with a sarcasm:
|
| Code typing is a practice of typing code, really. Why some people
| building their code editors like NASA engineers building the next
| rocket to send us to the next habitable Earth?
|
| You don't need to meticulously craft your code editor, stop
| overthinking.
| JadeNB wrote:
| > You don't need to meticulously craft your code editor, stop
| overthinking.
|
| You don't _need_ to, in the sense that you _can_ craft code in
| anything, but surely anyone who is an expert in their editor of
| choice--whatever that editor may be--would feel a huge
| productivity hit if forced to use another, formally equivalent,
| editor.
| forgotpwd16 wrote:
| You missed:
|
| >Let me mirror that with a sarcasm
|
| It is a remark to the post's argument. Indeed someone doesn't
| need a note-taking system but their productivity may increase
| with one. (Whatever a note-taking system is to someone.)
| lnxg33k1 wrote:
| I have noticed here for a period of time some people posting blog
| posts about their way to take note, I think it's about directing
| traffic to their blogs, and building klout, probably the biggest
| contribution of those posters is to make sure you know which blog
| url you can blacklist as they have nothing to say and just build
| clickbait, so I am thankful for that
| __jambo wrote:
| Actually I think that creating a "perfect" note taking system
| reduces to finding an ideal compression algorithm for human
| knowledge, which Hutter showed is equivalent to solving general
| AI.
|
| So you're wrong, note taking is at least as hard as rocket
| science, probably much harder since algorithmically rocket
| science is a pretty straightforward control problem plus some
| tuning.
| coldtea wrote:
| You first blew note taking out of all proportion as an axiom
| "reduces to finding an ideal compression algorithm for human
| knowledge", and then deduced that "is at least as hard as
| rocket science".
|
| There's no reason we should view note taking, the activity, as
| the pursuit of finding "an ideal compression algorithm for
| human knowledge". Finding just "a compression algorithm for
| human knowledge that suits us" will do.
|
| When we do note taking just want to be able to find and
| remember something down the road. That's what we need to solve,
| for our preferences and requirements, and being happy with
| something that works good enough.
|
| The same way that when we play guitar we don't want to be "the
| best possible technical/emotional/harmonic/melodic player that
| can possible exist", just to be able to play songs to have fun,
| play in a band, or be good musicians.
| __jambo wrote:
| Yes, but it depends "what suits you". It can be arbitrarily
| difficult and there are similarities that go along the lines
| of fundamentally challenging CS problems, which is why
| everyone and their plushy-toy seem to be obsessing over it I
| assume.
|
| Hacker news people are probably curious nerds.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| HN people are also notorious bikeshedders.
| davesque wrote:
| This post is like a litmus test for people who reply to the title
| instead of the content.
| drewcoo wrote:
| What content? There is literally more content, and more
| thoughtful content, here on HN in response to the article!
| davesque wrote:
| Yep, I know there's no content.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| It depends. We've seen this "thoughtful content" of HNers
| posting in detail about their personal notes-taking systems
| ad nauseum in uncountable threads already. No one asked for
| them to do it again here.
|
| The whole point is that an elaborate system for taking notes
| is unnecessary and likely detracts from the actual work
| getting done.
| smoldesu wrote:
| I'd reckon everyone is seeing greener grass on the other
| side, it's hard to believe that Markdown is more time-
| consuming than plaintext. The entire point of a "notes
| system" is that it works well for you. If you only need to
| take weekly notes, you won't need organization at all. If
| you're studying a variety of academic topics, then yeah,
| you're going to want a notetaking schema of some kind, even
| if it's only hierarchical folders.
|
| I'll still agree that notetaking doesn't need to be
| complicated, but... I don't see Markdown or Zettelkasten as
| complicated at all. It's like telling someone "version
| control isn't rocket science" and encouraging them to
| uninstall git in favor of versioned tarballs.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| The OP doesn't actually recommend people do that. It just
| says that note-taking need not be overcomplicated. No one
| said Markdown is time-consuming.
| smoldesu wrote:
| Then I guess I have to agree with the HN consensus, here.
| This is a pointless post with no call-to-action, it
| purely exists to jab the Pathos stick into the side of
| people who could care less.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| I see it as existing within the context of cultural
| trends. For years productivity porn and life hacks were
| in vogue. But the market for it has gotten big and
| bloated, the content overwhelming and over-monetized, so
| there's a cultural backlash against it now. The post
| mostly serves as a cathartic cry.
|
| For something more substantiative, satire can be more
| effective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7qjN3KF8U
|
| Though that video is from- 2018?!
| smoldesu wrote:
| > For years productivity porn and life hacks were in
| vogue. But the market for it has gotten big and bloated,
| the content overwhelming and over-monetized, so there's a
| cultural backlash against it now.
|
| I agree. How is this a critique of any of that? They
| aren't calling out over-monetized SaaS products; they're
| calling out the entire market of notetaking apps. Their
| rhetoric doesn't support the idea that productivity porn
| is harmful, but rather that simplicity is paramount and
| everything else is superfluous. Which is simply _wrong_.
| Maybe it 's easy for a solo-dev to piss on knowledge
| bases, but well-organized notetaking systems is what
| keeps the corporate world going round.
|
| Unless the author has a better, simpler alternative to
| the organization products people already use, this
| article simply reads as whining. Who is even the intended
| audience?
| xani_ wrote:
| If by that you mean that people that saw the content didn't
| participate coz there is just _nothing there_ , sure
| davesque wrote:
| That's exactly what I meant :).
| mannykannot wrote:
| The one and only article linked to by this one is arguably
| worth posting here, and in fact, it was, about an hour ago
| (I'm guessing as a response to the vacuity of this one.)
| Unlike this one, and somewhat ironically, it seems to have
| been ignored so far.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32887140
| m0llusk wrote:
| I love space ships and drawing space ships. As a results my notes
| have always been full of space ships and that becomes a metaphor.
| Big important ideas get big spaceships next to them. Connected
| ideas get space ships flying back and forth between them. Popular
| ideas get fleets of space ships drawn next to them. Controversial
| ideas get highlighted with space battles. People who see my notes
| and try to make use of them are often critical, but this has
| always helped both to engage me with note taking and to enjoy
| going over and really understanding notes when reviewing
| material. So for me note taking really is rocket science.
| ravi-delia wrote:
| Yeah, I'm quite proud at how my doodling skills have improved
| now that I take "notes". Keeps me from zoning out, and while my
| pen is out I find i actually do write stuff with it
| Apocryphon wrote:
| Finally, a notes-taking system on HN that makes some damn
| sense.
| antupis wrote:
| Yeah this much better than _insert here some obscure usually
| German sounding word_ note system.
| layer8 wrote:
| Isn't the above the Raumschiffnotizen system?
| janandonly wrote:
| Why can I only give a +1 to brilliant posts like this?
|
| I had to laugh out loud. Thanks for making my day.
| alostpuppy wrote:
| Agree 100%. The rest of them just make me feel bad about
| myself.
| oxff wrote:
| You can just start taking notes, like right now. The meta-
| organization just pops out eventually once you grasp the subject
| well enough. People making it a biz are essentially cargo
| culting.
|
| One of those things that are not rocket science, yet is presented
| as such.
| werber wrote:
| For me, syncing my Apple accounts on my mobile while keeping them
| separate on my work and personal computer has been a game changer
| because it was easy to do, it requires no thought or maintaining
| bachmeier wrote:
| > And if you need an example of dead-simple note-taking, James
| Clear stores his notes in a multi-hundred Google document
|
| If you click the link, you see that he uses other tools for
| notes, including Asana and Evernote. Google Docs is for writing a
| book.
| posharma wrote:
| And yet we've 61+ comments discussing note taking yet again.
| fhsm wrote:
| I have a clear memory of my first team lead telling me to be
| mindful because "meta work is always more fun than work" when I
| was fussing with my vimrc. It has stuck with me and I'm yet to
| see a counter example to it. The rub is that great tooling is
| ultra high leverage and work adjacent fun is good for the
| spirits and a sort of intelectual cross training.
|
| So make that 62
| bartimus wrote:
| What works for me is not having my listening (and recollection)
| capacity being interrupted by taking notes.
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