[HN Gopher] Fly fishing holds lessons about art and design (2014)
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       Fly fishing holds lessons about art and design (2014)
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2022-09-16 11:51 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | UIUC_06 wrote:
       | I'm all in favor of design for the sake of design. I've tried fly
       | fishing a few times, and not surprisingly, found it quite
       | difficult. There's a pond near me with no fish that's solely for
       | fly fishers to practice. I can appreciate the need.
       | 
       | I grew up in the Midwest fishing on a lake with a spin-casting
       | outfit. The arm movements you use for that are completely
       | counterproductive for fly fishing.
       | 
       | So, yeah, I could learn to throw a fly. But life's too short. As
       | superkuh says: fish are fish.
        
       | RajT88 wrote:
       | I have tried fly fishing, and although it is difficult to learn,
       | I have been very successful.
       | 
       | To enumerate the species I have hooked into:
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       | Fremontodendron californicum, Buxus Sempervirens, Acer
       | Circinatum, Quercus Alba... and more
        
       | zibby8 wrote:
       | I agree that fly fishing is beautiful, but disagree that it is an
       | elective way to make things more difficult in the name of beauty.
       | Most fly fishing happens in relatively shallow rivers where flies
       | comprise a large part of the fish diet. There isn't really any
       | other way to catch the fish. What I love about fly fishing,
       | though, is that it often takes place is beautiful mountain
       | streams. The beauty of the environment is hard to beat.
        
         | superkuh wrote:
         | Yeah, match the hatch matters, but not as much as you think if
         | you give them something else juicy.
         | 
         | I live on a class 1 trout stream. I've talked to plenty of
         | fancily dressed fly fisherman in for tourism struggling to
         | catch large trout. I do better with a worm or grasshopper on a
         | hook. And the funniest of all is that the biggest browns I've
         | caught were using _bread_ by the local hydroelectric dam
         | because people feed the ducks there and the trout adapted.
         | 
         | Fish are fish. Trout are nothing special. The environmental
         | beauty is still there when using a spinning rod.
        
           | zibby8 wrote:
           | In your anecdote, your comparing tourists to a local. Of
           | course a local is going to be more productive regardless of
           | tackle. There are a lot of anecdotes here, with very little
           | data.
        
         | RajT88 wrote:
         | Not really true, about no other way. In such waters an
         | ultralight spinning rig with a small hook and single split
         | shot, with just a worm on the hook, is far more effective.
         | 
         | So effective, fly fisherman consider it "cheating".
        
           | dkn wrote:
           | In Canadian provinces, bait fishing in streams is often
           | illegal.
        
             | dvh wrote:
             | And in Britain they don't allow casting downstream.
        
           | zibby8 wrote:
           | I don't think they consider it cheating. It's often illegal
           | because it is more likely to harm the fish.
        
         | nataz wrote:
         | Live bait with the proper rig will pretty much always beat an
         | imitation fly. Same goes for organics (fish eggs) that will
         | have scent/oil/particle trail.
        
       | superkuh wrote:
       | Fly fishing is to fishing as audiophiles are to music. It's more
       | about aesthetics and art than it is about achieving the best end
       | result.
        
       | dvh wrote:
       | If you don't live in Montana or other "promised land", you can
       | try fly fishing anywhere. I'm fly fishing almost exclusively in
       | lowland carp waters for 22 years already and caught plenty of big
       | fish, carps, grass carps, chubs, asps, breams, nase, perch,
       | roaches, rudds. https://i.redd.it/q7t30dmy0hw81.jpg
        
       | nataz wrote:
       | Yay, fly fishing.
       | 
       | Fly fishing isn't about catching fish, it's about catching fish
       | beautifully.
       | 
       | Most fly fishermen are catch and release, they don't even keep
       | the fish.
       | 
       | You can make all kinds of reductive arguments about recreational
       | fishing, but unless you are fishing for food or for $$$, it's all
       | about the enjoyment you take out of the activity.
       | 
       | Fly fishing is harder than using live bait, most spinning reels,
       | etc, but that's not the point. If it was about catching fish,
       | gill nets beat both, and in turn are trumped by fish damns,
       | explosives, electricity, and paralytics (all of which have
       | been/are still commonly used in scientific and commercial
       | harvest).
       | 
       | It's a skill that encompasses body mechanics, tracking/reading
       | water, presentation, the hunt....
       | 
       | It's outdoors, near water, done alone.
       | 
       | It can be as expensive or cheap as you want to make it, the
       | basics/floor to get in are surprising cheap.
       | 
       | It's wonderful.
        
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