[HN Gopher] World's longest journey by pumpkin boat
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       World's longest journey by pumpkin boat
        
       Author : Brajeshwar
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2022-09-16 14:56 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | a1pulley wrote:
       | I grew my first giant pumpkin this year. Unfortunately, it's a
       | bit too small for me to sit in--it's only about 500 lbs [1]. I
       | will know for sure next Saturday when I move it to a contest.
       | 
       | I think I'll be able to grow a larger one next year, since I did
       | quite a few things wrong this time. If anyone in Los Angeles
       | (South Bay area) wants into this silly project--whether for
       | growing, escorting with a boat, or even paddling--please get in
       | touch :-)
       | 
       | [1] https://giantpumpkins.co.nz/giant-pumpkin-weight-
       | estimation-...
        
         | latchkey wrote:
         | This is when I really wish HN allowed us to upload pictures
         | here directly.
        
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       | hinkley wrote:
       | Oh my god, he cut a cup holder into it.
        
       | hallway_monitor wrote:
       | Wish I knew about this - I would have gone to see the trip. Well,
       | at least my state is on the map for something. If it were
       | possible to grow giant corn, we would definitely be in the news
       | for that.
        
         | gibspaulding wrote:
         | Looks like Costa Rica has the record there:
         | 
         | https://www.neogen.com/neocenter/blog/worlds-tallest-corn-pl...
         | 
         | Edit: Oops, I lied, better link says it's New York:
         | https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/tallest-s...
        
           | samatman wrote:
           | Did you notice that it's the same person?
           | 
           | The first link says he moved from New York to Costa Rica in
           | 2017, in the pursuit of taller corn.
           | 
           | But the second one says he beat his own record, in 2021, back
           | in New York.
           | 
           | I want a podcast of this.
        
       | JRKrause wrote:
       | This story feels like it could be the plot of a children's book.
        
         | mwcremer wrote:
         | Almost: _The Runaway Pumpkin_ by Kevin Lewis and S. D.
         | Schindler https://www.amazon.com/dp/0439565448
        
       | KMnO4 wrote:
       | I worked for a local farmer in high school. One of the novelties
       | he grew in small quantities were "square" watermelons[0]. When
       | grown in a square fibreglass enclosure, the melons would conform
       | to the cube shape.
       | 
       | I wonder if a pumpkin could be grown in a kayak-shaped mold to
       | improve the maneuverability of the pumpkin boat.
       | 
       | [0]:
       | https://www.whataboutwatermelon.com/index.php/2018/05/cube-w...
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | That will certainly be how this arms race progresses.
        
         | 5440 wrote:
         | Remember the square bonzai kitten thing.
         | https://www.wired.com/2001/02/fbi-goes-after-bonsaikitten-co...
        
           | hinkley wrote:
           | One of my favorite (!?) FBI anecdotes is that one of the
           | cartoonists who was syndicated in the original print version
           | of The Onion, managed to have one of his characters make a
           | joke about bombing the WTC get published the same week a bomb
           | went off in the parking garage. Dumbest luck. He got to have
           | a nice chat with some men in black about that one.
           | 
           | I totally understand why they would need to dot some i's and
           | cross some t's on that one but the bonsai kitten thing is
           | just inane.
        
           | sonofhans wrote:
           | Oh god, I remember this. My mom sent it to her sister who was
           | outraged -- frothing at the mouth, practically -- that
           | someone could do something so cruel. It was hard to convince
           | her that it was a fake, and then of course she said that such
           | things should be banned.
           | 
           | I also know that she enjoys veal, so as usual, human
           | hypocrisy WRT animal exploitation knows no bounds.
        
             | vlunkr wrote:
             | > I also know that she enjoys veal, so as usual, human
             | hypocrisy WRT animal exploitation knows no bounds.
             | 
             | That seems like quite the false equivalence.
        
               | diablerouge wrote:
               | maybe closer to fois gras?
        
               | aaronbrethorst wrote:
               | "Foie gras production should be judged not by the worst
               | farms, but by the best"
               | 
               | https://www.seriouseats.com/the-physiology-of-foie-why-
               | foie-...
        
         | technolo-g wrote:
         | A different approach: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-
         | news/fungus-answer-climate-c...
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | I think this is the guy you want to help you make your racing
         | pumpkin:
         | 
         | https://www.popularmechanics.com/home/a25997168/grow-giant-p...
        
         | kamranjon wrote:
         | This is a great idea, I had a similar thought thinking about
         | how woody gourds are and wondering if you grew a giant one, if
         | you could somehow shape it more like a boat, dry it out and
         | seal it and be on the water.
        
           | londons_explore wrote:
           | You know there are are other materials that one can shape to
           | be boat-like? In fact, it's the way we've been making boats
           | for a long time....
        
             | bisby wrote:
             | Why do they have model rocket launch height competitions?
             | We already have real rockets that go to space.
             | 
             | Almost all competitions have different
             | restrictions/categories to participate in (swimming has
             | backstroke, butterfly, freestyle, etc, etc)
             | 
             | Different categories of a competition challenge different
             | things. There are very different engineering challenges
             | related to building a boat out of a pumpkin. It doesn't
             | make a better boat than standard metal/wooden boats, but it
             | does cause people to think about boat building in a
             | different way. It might just be a fun personal challenge,
             | or it might be a fun way to think up classic boat solutions
             | by looking at things from a completely new lens.
             | 
             | Worst case this wastes someone time and money (which a lot
             | of standard engineering does too), best case someone has
             | fun and/or learns something.
        
             | mikepurvis wrote:
             | _Hacker_ News
        
         | DFHippie wrote:
         | Kayaks are long and skinny. The shells of giant pumpkins are
         | think. I think you'd have trouble getting enough flotation. You
         | need something with a better surface area to volume ration, a
         | boat more like a hemisphere. I'm thinking a coracle mold. But
         | then, that's basically what a giant pumpkin is already.
        
         | iancmceachern wrote:
         | Yes, this should be done. It needs to be done. I neither have a
         | pumpkin farm, or a kayak mold making company, but I support
         | those that do in this endeavor. God speed brave pumpkin
         | kayaker.
        
           | LeifCarrotson wrote:
           | You don't need a pumpkin farm, just an ordinarily sized
           | garden and $6 worth of seeds:
           | 
           | https://parkseed.com/dills-atlantic-giant-pumpkin-
           | seeds/p/05...
           | 
           | A plastic kayak would probably not survive the mold-making
           | process, but that's fine, you can get a kayak either used
           | (abused) from a local livery for dirt cheap depending on your
           | bartering/scrounging skills, or a low-quality new one can be
           | had for under $200 at a big box store, and simply be cut off
           | the pumpkin.
           | 
           | I wonder if it would disqualify you to coat the pumpkin in a
           | thick layer of Line-X:
           | 
           | https://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/a22652/bedliner-s.
           | ..
        
             | traverseda wrote:
             | I live right next to dills farm! There's recently been a
             | controversy where protester have been trying to change how
             | the water in a local lake is managed, and the lake have
             | been completely shut down (as in it is now a dust bowl
             | unless it's rained recently), so we can no longer have our
             | yearly giant pumpkin boat races.
        
         | cestith wrote:
         | You might also be interested in cardboard boat regattas.
        
         | cdot2 wrote:
         | Records are meant to be broken.
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | > traveling 38 miles down the Missouri River.
       | 
       | Well that's practically cheating.
        
         | LeifCarrotson wrote:
         | 38 miles in 12 hours in a river that has an average velocity of
         | 3 to 3.5 mph.
         | 
         | Kudos to him for keeping the pumpkin upright in a difficult
         | river, but I don't think he would have done quite so well in a
         | lake.
         | 
         | On the other hand, a river with Class 3 rapids might have
         | surface flow velocity of 10 or 20 mph, but that's not a good
         | place to be in a pumpkin. Probably best to try this on the
         | Missouri rather than the Congo....
        
           | hinkley wrote:
           | Any of the rivers around here would rip that thing to shreds
           | too.
           | 
           | The envelope math on that tells me almost all of his paddling
           | went to controlling the pumpkin, not moving it forward, which
           | makes sense for a round 'boat' and a single paddle. Some
           | cultures have solutions for this but he wasn't aware of them.
           | 
           | Even a little shaping to make the pumpkin more oblong would
           | net you quite a bit of velocity. In particular, the ribs on a
           | pumpkin look a lot like hard chines on a kayak, if you cut
           | open the side of the pumpkin [correction: he already did
           | this, but on a round pumpkin, and then he sat 90deg to the
           | ribs] instead of the top. The next fool who tries this I
           | expect to hit 40 miles in 10 hours, and then it's off to the
           | races.
        
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