[HN Gopher] Foldscope: The Paper Microscope
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       Foldscope: The Paper Microscope
        
       Author : marcodiego
       Score  : 151 points
       Date   : 2022-09-16 10:42 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (foldscope.com)
        
       | shireboy wrote:
       | We have a similar albeit plastic microscope for our kids. The
       | issue I have with it on newer iPhone is that the phone keeps
       | wanting to switch lenses. So you clip it on one of the lenses,
       | but iOS will switch between that lens and the others based on
       | zoom, light, focus, etc. You can get shots but it's somewhat
       | finicky esp for kids. These work better with single lens phones.
        
         | ThrowawayTestr wrote:
         | I'm sure one of the Pro camera apps will let you specify the
         | lens manually.
        
       | imdsm wrote:
       | This looks really amazing.
        
       | koheripbal wrote:
       | Regular microscopes are so cheap already.
       | 
       | I paid $80 for my kids and $10 for a cell phone adapter. It
       | easily sees 600x, magnification.
        
         | naasking wrote:
         | You going to lug that microscope around on a hike with your
         | kids?
        
       | CrimsonRain wrote:
       | I have one. It's nice but the packaging is really bad. Once you
       | unpack, you can't easily pack it back again.
        
       | docdeek wrote:
       | This looks great for my son who is interested in science but
       | shipping to Western Europe at $45 for a single $10 foldable
       | microscope is a little too steep. Hope they can find a local EU
       | supplier some time in the future.
        
         | onebitwise wrote:
         | Checks out the Blips Micro lenses for smartphone. Shipping in
         | Europe should be 5-6 euros :)
        
           | hypertele-Xii wrote:
           | They have extremely misleading marketing, noting
           | magnification of 150x for the Ultra lens, but that's _" with
           | digital zoom"_ (doesn't add pixels just scales them up like
           | you'd do in Photoshop); the actual magnification is only 33x,
           | which is trash, wouldn't call that microscopic at all. The
           | paper microscope in the OP is _actually_ 140x, much better.
           | Even my toy microscope I got for birthday decades ago as a
           | kid does 750x.
        
             | novaRom wrote:
             | High magnification is not the best for most interesting
             | experiences. The best is to have low magnification stereo
             | with large Field Of View. A range btw 10x and 20x is great
             | to observe fine biological structures in 3D.
        
               | brewtide wrote:
               | Our household recently acquired an optical scope. 10x,
               | 40x, 400x with stock eyepiece. With a cellphone adapter,
               | which is about a 40x for the objective (vs 10x actual
               | eyepiece) we hit about 1600x magnification at our kitchen
               | table.
               | 
               | Absolutely surreal to take a toothpick end of yogurt, put
               | it on a slide and WATCH the bacteria in the yogurt
               | running around.
               | 
               | Or other small beings munching up things as they swim
               | along.
               | 
               | It's been a real eye opener for the 7 and 9 year old and
               | strongly suggest people investigate things like this,
               | it's downright cool.
               | 
               | But yes, the few 'lesser' digital scopes are far better
               | for cool pictures of bugs, bees, ants, flies, etc. Once
               | you get into the optical / need slides route, you really
               | need to be looking for literal microscopic things or the
               | depth of field (and lack of available light) make it
               | quite a letdown.
               | 
               | We can see fruit fly individual blood cells flowing out
               | of a smashed fruit fly into a slide. So. Damn. Neat.
        
               | jrussino wrote:
               | My kids are a bit younger than yours (3 and 5), but I'd
               | love to do this with them at some point. Which scope did
               | you buy? I see plenty of relatively "cheap" (<$100)
               | options on Amazon; any reason to avoid those or would
               | they be sufficient for this purpose?
        
               | tesseract wrote:
               | Somewhere around 50x is the dividing line between "I want
               | to see normal stuff really up close" (best done with a
               | stereo microscope or camera with macro lens [some
               | "digital microscopes" fall in this realm]) and "I want to
               | see microscopic things that are invisible to the naked
               | eye" (best done with a biological style/compound
               | microscope with stage and slides, etc.). They can both be
               | interesting! The Foldscope is definitely aimed at the
               | latter case.
        
               | bla3 wrote:
               | You mean Depth Of Field, not Field Of View, right?
        
               | dekhn wrote:
               | No. You can't really adjust your microscope hardware to
               | get a larger depth of field, but field of view is
               | straightforward. You want FOV because most things you are
               | going to look at are relatively thin planes. If you want
               | more DoF you should do photo stacking. Even for FOV, I do
               | multiple field acquisition and then stitch because even
               | my low-mag microscope only covers a 1mm circle.
        
               | novaRom wrote:
               | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_view
        
               | dekhn wrote:
               | Yes, I agree with this- for the vast majority of people
               | 10X is enough! Being able to easily pan the image over
               | multiple fields is nice, as well.
        
           | docdeek wrote:
           | That looks really neat - thank you.
        
           | hrnnnnnn wrote:
           | Thanks for the tip, I've been wanting to do some micrography
           | for a while but hadn't found anything decent-looking. Just
           | impulse-bought the blips lab kit!
        
         | causi wrote:
         | You can get a cheap wi-fi microscope off Amazon for $20.
        
         | hellohowareu wrote:
         | I purchased the "Carson MicroBrite Plus 60x-120x Power LED
         | Lighted Pocket Microscope"[1] for $15 on Amazon.
         | 
         | I love it for its portability and durability-- I can pop it in
         | my pocket or backpack and check out stuff on nature trails.
         | 
         | ...Checking out its amazon page I also see this related, more
         | powerful product for $20: "Carson MicroFlip 100x-250x LED and
         | UV Lighted Pocket Microscope with Flip Down Slide Base and
         | Smartphone Digiscoping Clip" [2]
         | 
         | And a search for 1000x microscope yields this $60 one "LCD
         | Digital Microscope,4.3 Inch 1080P 10 Megapixels,1-1000X
         | Magnification Zoom Wireless USB Stereo Microscope Camera,10MP
         | Camera Video Recorder with HD Screen" [3]
         | 
         | [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LAX52IQ?psc=1
         | 
         | [2] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015MS8O48
         | 
         | [3] https://www.amazon.com/PalliPartners-Microscope-
         | Magnificatio...
        
         | anotheryou wrote:
         | there are some resellers
        
         | Schinken_ wrote:
         | There are also several DIY 3d printed microscope options in
         | case that's easier/cheaper for you.
        
           | kleiba wrote:
           | What about second hand microscopes off ebay? I know you can
           | even get very fancy ones that would be overkill for a curious
           | kid at home. But I'm sure you can tap into the lower end
           | market where for the same cost as mentioned by grandparent
           | you'll end up with something comparable not made out of
           | cardboard.
        
         | theodric wrote:
         | I find this lazy, high-cost shipping to the foreign lands
         | beyond the map both irritating and baffling. This folds, it
         | fits in an envelope or through a mail slot. It shouldn't cost
         | more than a tenner to ship it. But because they just got 1(one)
         | quote from UPS for hyper-express service, they're missing out
         | on 400 million potential clients in Europe. It's so, so dumb.
        
       | aceazzameen wrote:
       | I still have one unopened that I almost forgot about. I got it
       | from their Kickstarter campaign. I've been waiting for my kids to
       | get old enough to use it. It might be time.
        
       | Vox_Leone wrote:
       | If well used could be the final blow to vaccine skepticism. The
       | advent of these cheap tools is a very subtle - barely noticed, if
       | at all - change that, as sometimes happen, can have a big impact
       | on society. More of these, please.
        
         | Vox_Leone wrote:
         | >>If well used could be the final blow to vaccine skepticism.
         | 
         | I mean, it could help in the endeavor, by _showing_ directly
         | that there are very small things, and even smaller things
         | beyond them
         | 
         | (*)nobody told me I'd saying these things in 2022
        
           | renox wrote:
           | Very unlikely.
           | 
           | I remember a documentary on Flat earthers trying to prove
           | that Earth is flat of course they detected Earth's curvature
           | but they didn't change their mind..
           | 
           | Vaccine skeptics are the same. And it's far harder to see a
           | vaccine 'in action' than to measure the Earth's curvature.
        
             | cercatrova wrote:
             | Indeed. You can't reason someone out of an opinion they
             | didn't reason themselves into, as the saying goes.
        
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