[HN Gopher] Facebook spied on private messages of Americans who ...
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       Facebook spied on private messages of Americans who questioned 2020
       election
        
       Author : TechBro8615
       Score  : 42 points
       Date   : 2022-09-15 20:58 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (nypost.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (nypost.com)
        
       | wan_ala wrote:
       | Is there any other source than the NYpost?
        
       | checkyoursudo wrote:
       | "[Internet company] spies on [all their users]" is not really
       | much of a story, is it?
        
         | sparrish wrote:
         | "FBI has [Internet company] spy on [all their users]" is a
         | story.
        
         | TrueSlacker0 wrote:
         | It IS a sad world that this is the normal. No respect.
        
         | benmmurphy wrote:
         | Companies like Facebook go out of their way to try and show
         | that they are protecting their users privacy. For example
         | Facebook has a transparency report disclosing requests from
         | governments: https://transparency.fb.com/data/government-data-
         | requests If they are actively sending data to governments
         | without a forced legal request then this is very much a story.
        
       | aschearer wrote:
        
         | saurik wrote:
         | I mean, this is an issue with tech companies while Trump and
         | his pile of paper documents has nothing to do with tech? If it
         | makes you feel any better, talking a lot about Trump--even
         | saying negative things about him--probably only helps him
         | anyway.
        
         | StanislavPetrov wrote:
         | Are we talking about the you-know-who who tried to subvert the
         | 2016 election with the fabrication of the Russiagate story, or
         | the you-know-who who tried to subvert the 2020 election with
         | fake electors? Once more a rorschach test for political
         | partisans unable to accept objective reality and understand
         | that our opaque, unauditable elections carried out on insecure,
         | black-box electronic voting machines have not been "secure" in
         | decades. I'm old enough to remember when Diebold voting
         | machines were a huge issue after the 2000 election. Politics is
         | a dirty business - the dirtiest. Politicians are dirty people.
         | Anyone who believes that the politicians that they favor are
         | somehow more honest and moral than the ones they disfavor
         | either very young, very naive, or both.
        
         | treeman79 wrote:
         | So it's fine for the entire tech community to decide the victor
         | in an election. So long as it's your guy?
         | 
         | How would you feel if all the news media only said positive
         | things about Trump, and reported on Bidens crimes.
        
       | ImPostingOnHN wrote:
       | so they could figure out who to amplify for engagement and thus
       | increased profit?
       | 
       | they are Facebook's favorite users after all
        
       | ParksNet wrote:
       | Big Tech, The FBI, and the Democratic Party becoming
       | indistinguishable.
        
         | redwoolf wrote:
         | Don't be naive. The Republicans would do (and have done) the
         | same thing.
        
           | splintercell wrote:
           | He's not naive to make the claim he did. Are you challenging
           | his claim?
        
           | annexrichmond wrote:
           | Probably, and if they did, it would be just as wrong.
           | 
           | The difference is that a lot of Republicans have lost total
           | faith in institutions and the media because they feel they
           | are largely coordinated at this point.
        
           | benmmurphy wrote:
           | Definitely. I know there are a lot of republicans who are
           | happy to put their foot down if they are in power. It is
           | fucking wrong and we need to oppose it whenever someone does
           | this. Otherwise it is all just who whom all the way down.
        
         | speeder wrote:
         | I am from Brazil.
         | 
         | As an outsider, what it looks like to me is that USA needs some
         | kind of law to severely restrict people from circulating
         | freenly between these environments.
         | 
         | A huge amount of people in the media are ex-intelligence or ex-
         | law enforcement, lots of people in big tech worked for
         | democratic party and vice-versa.
         | 
         | Or the secretary of defense that works for Raytheon...
         | 
         | As an outsider it looks to me that USA really wants to top all
         | other countries and be first place in the world in amount of
         | conflict of interest, nepotism and industry inbreeding.
         | 
         | Regulators aren't much better, for example Boeing employees
         | that analyze the Max on behalf of regulators or Twitter that
         | are just verbally interviewed about their security practices
         | without providing any proof.
         | 
         | I bet someone, somewhere, want the SEC to start to use same
         | style of regulation when regulating insider trading. "Did you
         | insider traded Mr. Senator?" "No I didn't. The laws that I
         | passed that helped the company I founded are only coincidence."
         | "Ah of course, carry on."
        
         | kevinh wrote:
         | The current head of the FBI was appointed by Trump. Are you
         | arguing that the FBI head has no power or that he's secretly a
         | stooge of the Democratic party?
        
         | throwayyy479087 wrote:
         | The fact that there's no word for the
         | Educational/Military/Techno-Industrial complex is somewhat
         | telling. You're not really allowed to notice it exists - watch
         | this story ONLY be carried by the Post and the Daily Wire.
         | 
         | In a few years it will be covered by the Grey Lady - just like
         | the Hunter Biden laptop stuff.
        
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