[HN Gopher] Walking is good for health but walking faster is eve...
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       Walking is good for health but walking faster is even better, study
       finds
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 140 points
       Date   : 2022-09-15 13:28 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | sirsinsalot wrote:
       | Due to the way your body extracts energy from fat and glycogen,
       | your brisk walk should (for most people) keep your heart rate
       | around 120bpm for a sustained period of around an hour.
       | 
       | This way you'll condition better mitochondria development,
       | oxidise fat for energy and avoid producing damaging metabolic by-
       | products.
        
       | frans wrote:
       | Is their an equivalent benefit from cycling? Anybody knows?
        
         | thicknavyrain wrote:
         | On average, yes, substantially, even _when_ you account for
         | possible risks from accidents and potential pollution exposure:
         | 
         | https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/ehp.0901747
        
         | nradov wrote:
         | Cycling certainly has health benefits, but the general
         | recommendation is to combine it with other forms of aerobic and
         | resistance training rather than making it your sole form of
         | exercise. Cycling only works a limited set of muscles, and
         | doesn't generate the impacts or strains necessary to maintain
         | high bone mineral density.
        
           | WalterBright wrote:
           | I read somewhere that you gotta bike twice as long as jogging
           | to get the same benefit.
           | 
           | Also, stationary bikes are about half as effective as road
           | biking. It seems that the necessity to maintain balance
           | improves the results.
           | 
           | The same with weight machines. Lifting with barbells is more
           | effective, and dumbbells even more so. This is because these
           | require your muscle stabilizers to be engaged, while the
           | machine stabilizes the weight for you.
           | 
           | Weight machines are an expensive waste of time.
        
             | nradov wrote:
             | That really depends on what type of benefits you're
             | targeting. Do you want to get stronger? Increase aerobic
             | fitness? Lose weight? Win a race?
             | 
             | Running and cycling (or most any other endurance sport)
             | produce similar benefits for your energy systems as long as
             | you hit the same heart rate zones. Most casual athletes
             | find that for a given level of perceived exertion, running
             | causes a slightly higher heart rate due to engaging more
             | different muscles. But cycling is lower impact, so it's
             | easier to sustain a target level for longer training
             | sessions. Thus for general long-term health and fitness
             | purposes it's better to cross train a mix of different
             | sports.
             | 
             | Stationary bikes are as effective as road bikes for pure
             | exercise purposes. It's just a matter of hitting the right
             | power output and heart rate. Some pro triathletes now do
             | the majority of their bike training indoors for safety and
             | convenience. It's difficult to follow a structured workout
             | on a road bike while navigating, dodging cars, and stopping
             | at intersections. But with modern smart bike trainers it's
             | easy to hit the exact target at each step and optimize
             | physiological benefits. Some Zwift Academy participants
             | have even scored pro cycling team contacts based on
             | stationary bike workouts.
             | 
             | https://www.velonews.com/news/riders-get-pro-contracts-
             | with-...
             | 
             | You can buy roller trainers or rocker plates if you want to
             | work on balance but it makes little difference in the
             | training benefits.
        
             | Fricken wrote:
             | Because I commute by bicycle it's a non-expendable part of
             | my day, that's the main benefit. There's no slacking off;
             | rain or shine I bike.
        
         | jerlam wrote:
         | Most assuredly - the article is only comparing "walking" to "no
         | walking", not any other activity. Any exercise is better than
         | no exercise, and harder forms of exercise are better (up to a
         | point which casual people won't reach). These results shouldn't
         | be surprising.
         | 
         | Given that cycling usually involves higher heart rates, a
         | larger range of resistance, a larger range of joint movement,
         | more balancing skills, and increased attention requirements,
         | for the same period of time I would expect cycling to be
         | better. And in most American cities, you can actually cycle
         | from your home to another destination, whereas walking will
         | not. Of course, cycling involves greater costs and danger.
        
       | lgxz wrote:
       | So running is better than walking?
        
         | eckza wrote:
         | Not so fast there, pal.
        
         | onemoresoop wrote:
         | Brisk walking is it. I can see how that works out the body and
         | could be put into practice in the day to day life. Running is
         | great if you can do it correctly and have the time to put into
         | it. The way I see walking is the minimum needed for us to
         | function and can be applied daily even for the busy. I guess
         | this is saying that brisk walking may be even more favorable
         | for the body...
        
         | Spivak wrote:
         | Yes but it's a balance because running is high impact so if you
         | overdo it you risk injury. Ideally you should be getting some
         | exercise every day but you can't run every day without injuring
         | yourself, it just doesn't work. The recovery days aren't
         | optional if you want to not permanently damage your knees.
        
         | goatcode wrote:
         | Walking is good. Walking faster is better. Walking even
         | slightly faster? Slightly better. Running? Running is right
         | out. However, walking EVEN faster than slightly faster? Guess
         | what: even better.
        
         | hackeraccount wrote:
         | I run but luckily for me my running is probably on pace with a
         | lot of people's fast walking.
        
         | BiteCode_dev wrote:
         | That depends of your weight and testosteron level because the
         | body fights the inflammation by producing cortisol.
        
         | johnchristopher wrote:
         | No, walking faster is better than walking.
        
         | Tomte wrote:
         | Not for me, since I cannot decouple my breathing from my
         | running.
         | 
         | I always fall into a two-steps-breathe-in/two-steps-breathe-out
         | rhythm. It comes out to be a very unnatural and uncomfortable
         | breathing sequence.
         | 
         | (Also I cannot decouple music beats from my steps, so listening
         | to music is out, as well)
        
           | justusthane wrote:
           | That's interesting. I've read that one of the reasons that
           | bipeds are more efficient runners than quadrupeds is because
           | our breathing is decoupled from our stride. Quadrupeds' lungs
           | are anchored within their chest cavity at the top and bottom,
           | so as they stretch and contract their bodies, they are forced
           | to inhale and exhale correspondingly with each stride. It
           | sounds like you don't enjoy the same benefit as the rest of
           | us bipeds.
           | 
           | That being said, when I do try to maintain a regular
           | breathing pattern when running, I usually also do two-in,
           | two-out. Feels pretty good to me.
        
             | johnchristopher wrote:
             | Haha, I had no problem breathing out of sync with my stride
             | but God did I sync my steps with pavement patterns :D.
        
           | h4waii wrote:
           | Hm, I wonder if there is a term for this. I too like to try
           | and keep in a pattern, and it never works out and often feels
           | very unnatural when speeding up or slowing down a run.
        
         | jillesvangurp wrote:
         | Only if you can keep on doing it until you are old. A lot of
         | people wear out their hips and knees before they can reap the
         | benefits. Light exercise in the form of walking rather than
         | running is a bit more sustainable and something you can keep on
         | doing as long as you stay healthy. Cycling is similarly
         | beneficial.
        
           | pookha wrote:
           | This is wrong. Running actually builds up the knees. Only
           | walking is a good way to break down your knees as you get
           | older. My father was trained from a young age to fear
           | running. He had shot knees by his mid forties. I've been
           | running since I was a teenager. No issues (I'm in my 40s).
           | 
           | https://www.oxfordortho.sg/articles/why-running-is-
           | actually-...
        
             | comfypotato wrote:
             | Running with proper form _might_ help your knees (and it
             | provably doesn 't hurt them). The actual science your
             | source is drawing from will tell you that it's not
             | conclusive that running improves knee health [1]. Running
             | with poor form will definitely damage them. Walking
             | (2.5mph, briskly) will not hurt your knees and is
             | considered overall one of the best exercises you can do
             | [2]. Walking and running (with proper form) both will
             | improve knee pain.
             | 
             | 1. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18550323/ 2. https://hea
             | lth.gov/sites/default/files/2019-09/Physical_Acti...
        
             | runamok wrote:
             | Thank you for this. Running competitively definitely beats
             | up your tendons and what not but after 30 years of running
             | 70 (then) to 20 (now) up have had like 5 days my knees were
             | achey. I will say not everyone has ideal biomechanics and
             | our sedentary lifestyles also impact injuries while
             | running.
        
       | eurasiantiger wrote:
       | They say the effects are due to increased heart rate and blood
       | flow. Perhaps a sedentary lifestyle can be offset by popping a
       | Viagra every day.
        
       | edwnj wrote:
       | also sky is blue, study finds..
        
       | baxtr wrote:
       | I started walking briskly recently. I just love it. I will find
       | any excuse to get outside and walk. I walk to work, I walk to
       | shop. This way, I am walking between 15-20k steps on any day. It
       | sounds crazy, but it's actually easily achievable if you start
       | thinking about ways to tie it in your daily activities.
        
         | macintux wrote:
         | "Easily achievable" depends significantly on where you live
         | (and of course your health).
         | 
         | Sidewalks might as well be illegal in most parts of my home
         | city, given how many areas are completely devoid of them.
        
           | pleas4nt0ne wrote:
        
           | dataexporter wrote:
           | As more people start wanting to walk, there will be more
           | sidewalks. Start demanding for it and you will get it.
        
           | baxtr wrote:
           | Fair enough. I guess I should have left "easily" out.
        
           | eimrine wrote:
           | Thank you god I'm not an American.
        
         | jltsiren wrote:
         | 15-20k steps/day sounds a lot if your day job doesn't involve
         | walking around. Before the pandemic, my typical day was 10-15k
         | steps. But now that I'm working from home, it takes some effort
         | to reach 10k, because I have fewer reasons to leave home.
        
           | lynguist wrote:
           | The same with me. I plummeted from 9k a day to 5.5k a day and
           | it has taken a toll on my mood.
        
       | greggeter wrote:
        
       | keepquestioning wrote:
       | It will screw up your knees
        
         | comfypotato wrote:
         | This is very false. The truth is quite the opposite. Walking is
         | associated with reduced knee pain. Walking (2.5mph, briskly)
         | and Yoga are considered golden exercises.
         | https://health.gov/sites/default/files/2019-09/Physical_Acti...
        
       | imartin2k wrote:
       | To me this is a bit sad, as walking fast is for me associated
       | with being stressed and in a rush. Walking slowly allows me to be
       | fully mindful, to feel my body, and to experience the world
       | around me without being lost in thought. It took a bit training
       | but can be very pleasant. I haven't managed to achieve these
       | things when walking fast.
        
         | Delk wrote:
         | I generally feel the same. (I usually ride my bike at the
         | higher end of my comfortable speed range, though, and do other
         | moderate-intensity exercise.)
         | 
         | It's worth remembering that whatever physical activity _you_
         | feel best doing might be the best for you. We aren 't just
         | physical robots. Mental well-being is also part of health, and
         | it affects your physical health to some degree as well. Not to
         | mention that we're a lot likely to do things we find
         | pleasurable, and physical activity that you do is healthier
         | than activity you don't do.
         | 
         | It's best to bear in mind that quantitative research doesn't
         | take into account those subjective differences. It's probably
         | not a good idea to singularly optimize for what's
         | _statistically_ shown by evidence. It 's not like we're all
         | data points on a neatly fitting curve.
        
         | comfypotato wrote:
         | They aren't mutually exclusive in your life! I walk fast on the
         | treadmill in the morning and take my time strolling through the
         | public garden next door. This is valuable insight for people
         | trying to use walking as a golden ticket to good cardiovascular
         | health.
        
         | hombre_fatal wrote:
         | This is like being sad to hear that lentils are healthy but
         | broccoli is even healthier, but you only like lentils.
         | 
         | Just do healthy stuff that works for you and don't worry about
         | something you don't want to do being slightly healthier.
        
       | RHSman2 wrote:
        
       | ltbarcly3 wrote:
       | Wait until these scientist find out about running.
        
         | jasonpeacock wrote:
         | Walking quickly (at a speed that you want to start jogging, but
         | you don't) is less efficient for same distance than actually
         | running..which is better for your health.
         | 
         | To get the same benefits from running, you need to run
         | faster/farther than walking. Just like when you switch biking,
         | the same 3mi loop doesn't do any good and you need to start
         | doing 10-15mi loops instead.
        
           | hombre_fatal wrote:
           | Another nice thing about walking is that you can multitask to
           | make it more stimulating, for longer. Imagine if you only
           | went on HN and social media and Youtube while you were
           | walking the local park.
        
         | onemoresoop wrote:
         | I guess you could run your errands running but I guess brisk
         | walking could be easier to incorporate for most in their
         | routine, especially for non runners. Besides, running with the
         | wrong form could do more damage than walking.
        
         | BiteCode_dev wrote:
         | That depends of your weight and testosteron level because the
         | body fights the inflammation by producing cortisol.
        
           | InitialLastName wrote:
           | You keep copying and pasting the same thing on comment after
           | comment (down to the typos) and never back it up with a
           | source.
        
         | DesiLurker wrote:
         | running is hard on joints, esp for heavier folks.
        
           | yupper32 wrote:
           | Running is actually good for your joints. You'll have a hard
           | time finding studies saying otherwise.
           | 
           | Running is certainly usually harder for heavier folks, but
           | being bad for your joints is not the reason.
        
             | kyriakos wrote:
             | Depends on age. If you are under 40 running can be
             | beneficial for joints. Especially if you start running at
             | later age then it could cause problems.
        
             | NovemberWhiskey wrote:
             | > _Running is actually good for your joints._
             | 
             | Running a reasonable amount (contextually defined), with
             | good form, in appropriate footwear, ideally not on hard
             | surfaces (i.e. concrete) can be good for your joints.
        
               | yupper32 wrote:
               | Just about anything done with poor form or in excess is
               | going to cause issues. Not sure it's a useful point.
        
           | francisofascii wrote:
           | If you very gradually ease into it. Add mileage slowly, it
           | will not be. That is why you see plenty of larger heavier
           | folks running marathons.
        
       | dxxvi wrote:
       | And even a very slow jogging is better than a fast walk.
        
         | vixen99 wrote:
         | And swimmers have lower mortality rates than walkers and
         | runners.
         | 
         | "After adjustment for age, body-mass index, smoking status,
         | alcohol intake, and family history of cardiovascular disease,
         | swimmers had 53%, 50%, and 49% lower all-cause mortality risks
         | than did men who were sedentary, walkers, or runners,
         | respectively (p < 0.05 for each)."
         | 
         | https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/ijare/vol2/iss3/3/
        
           | jerlam wrote:
           | As a runner and cyclist, in terms of difficulty swimming is
           | in another dimension. It requires all four limbs to act in
           | coordination with breathing, it has higher temperature
           | stresses, and if you get tired you drown. The average
           | swimming duration of a triathlon is less than a fourth of the
           | others.
        
           | slothtrop wrote:
           | has this been reproduced? This one echoes the same but also
           | mentions racquet sports and aerobics -
           | https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/10/812.short
           | 
           | edit: more, this one favors volleyball and stretching -
           | https://globalsportmatters.com/wp-
           | content/uploads/2022/02/sh...
        
             | jimbokun wrote:
             | Maybe all of those fall under the category of moderate to
             | high aerobic training?
        
           | p1mrx wrote:
           | Hopefully "all-cause mortality" includes drowning.
        
             | Delk wrote:
             | If we're talking about swimming in pools, the risk of
             | drowning is probably a rounding error.
        
           | duckmysick wrote:
           | I'm surprised there's such a small difference between
           | sedentary and walkers/runners.
        
         | BiteCode_dev wrote:
         | That depends of your weight and testosteron level because the
         | body fights the inflammation by producing cortisol.
        
       | beertoagunfight wrote:
        
         | mattwest wrote:
         | Well it does take a clever person to design a solid experiment,
         | properly controlling variables to prove causality, and analyze
         | data in a way to prove or disprove a hypothesis. You could say
         | the same thing about most research, yet it's a necessary thing.
        
           | Madmallard wrote:
           | Applying strong scientific principle and a lot of time and
           | effort to an obvious conclusion to everyone? Not clever.
        
             | aidenn0 wrote:
             | Obvious conclusions like "heavier objects fall faster"?
        
               | joelfried wrote:
               | Except they don't - heavier objects fall at the same rate
               | (G - 9.8m/s^2) as lighter ones. You can experiment with
               | this yourself - try rolling a ping pong ball and baseball
               | down the same incline. You'll see they hit the bottom at
               | the same speed (wind resistance is a thing, hence the
               | incline, and you'll get more accurate results indoors).
               | 
               | Don't feel bad though - Aristotle got this wrong and it
               | took until Galileo to get it right.
               | 
               | Don't take my word for it though, here's a Scientific
               | American article about it from 2013:
               | https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bring-science-
               | hom...
        
               | loa_in_ wrote:
               | I'm pretty certain that was the GP's point as well, just
               | expressed in a sarcastic tone. The experiment is famous
               | for baffling physics students.
        
       | Tomte wrote:
       | I'm living two minutes away from a green belt in my town. It's a
       | round course with partly paved paths, pretty much exactly 5km
       | long, used by runners and walkers.
       | 
       | Since I've been working from home I've made it a point to head
       | out mid-workday and go for a walk. One hour. Surrounded by trees.
       | It's fantastic.
       | 
       | Whenever I'm getting annoyed or cranky, it's time to go. Most of
       | our development tools are shit. I get lots of opportunities...
       | 
       | When I started doing that I could reliably measure my blood
       | pressure going down by 10 to 15 mmHg. Lasting the rest of the
       | day.
       | 
       | Now I've lost quite a bit of weight (mostly by eating less, not
       | much by walking, I think), and I cannot see such a reliable drop
       | in blood pressure anymore (it's now regularly lower). I still
       | feel better whenever I've been out.
        
         | agumonkey wrote:
         | I used to have that rule solidly followed but life got in the
         | way. I still walk but not at the best times (social pressure).
         | 
         | Have you had endorphin kick yet ?
        
           | Tomte wrote:
           | Not in the sense like people describe runner's high, no.
           | 
           | It's relaxing for me, not exciting.
        
             | agumonkey wrote:
             | hmm I wasn't thinking of excitement, but more like joyful
             | contemplation all of a sudden
        
         | derekp7 wrote:
         | Don't discount that walk in losing weight. I hear a lot about
         | weight loss being mostly diet, and you can't outrun a
         | cheeseburger, etc. But in reality, if you are around borderline
         | eating 2000 calories per day, and if that walk burns an
         | additional 300 calories, well 12 walks will cause a pound of
         | weight loss. Plus, if you have free time to take a walk, that
         | means you aren't using that time to snack either.
        
         | codyb wrote:
         | I've not been enjoying the back to the office aspect of
         | things... but it always feels better after a wonderful ride
         | through Midtown rush hour traffic. Just being out there moving
         | the body is always wonderful.
        
       | hirundo wrote:
       | For better exercise, speed up or slow down:
       | 
       | https://www.runnersworld.com/training/a20866689/why-crawling...
        
         | antisthenes wrote:
         | Slow movement is strength and flexibility, fast moving is
         | cardio.
         | 
         | Do both and you've covered your bases. Makes sense.
        
         | browningstreet wrote:
         | Some of the hardest additions I've made to my gym workouts
         | include crawling and jumping. Jumping / bounding, especially if
         | you haven't done much of it before, is quite taxing.
         | 
         | I prefer bodybuilding lifts over crossfit style movements, but
         | I realized that dynamic movements would be a worthy addition,
         | at least to my warmups or finishers.
         | 
         | It came to light in a particularly undignified way: I took my
         | kid to a mega-trampoline place and realized: 1) I can't jump
         | for long, 2) jumps down from height are especially unsettling
         | now that I'm no longer in my youth.
        
           | polishdude20 wrote:
           | Another way to take jumping to the next level of you have
           | barbells is to do power cleans.
        
       | pdmfz wrote:
       | What shoes do people here like for walking a lot?
        
         | zeku wrote:
         | Any athletic shoes that fit properly. Nike, New Balance,
         | Adidas, Puma all have options.
        
         | lantry wrote:
         | flip flops (not cheap styrofoam ones with hard plastic loops,
         | but a decent 20$ pair with cloth loops)
        
         | sirsinsalot wrote:
         | A vote here for "On" running shoes, they also do hiking and
         | walking shoes[1]
         | 
         | [1] https://on-running.com/
        
         | nijaru wrote:
         | I have a pair of Hoka shoes for walking and a pair of Salomon
         | shoes for hiking. Both are great.
        
         | icpmacdo wrote:
         | New Balance 880, on my 4th pair in 5-6 years and they are the
         | best
        
           | ouid wrote:
           | Is 1.5 years of life considered durable for how you use them?
           | That seems kind of short to me, but I don't really know.
        
             | okaram wrote:
             | It heavily depends on usage and weight. 10K steps is 1.5 to
             | 2 hours of walking.
             | 
             | I'm quite overweight, and my tennis shoes last me ~6 months
             | in good shape.
        
             | stevesimmons wrote:
             | I run a lot and keep three generations of shoes:
             | 
             | * Used for running when new, usually for a year.
             | 
             | * In their 2nd year, for walking, gym and casual use.
             | 
             | * In their 3rd year, for gardening, house maintenance and
             | stuff like walks in muddy places.
        
             | runamok wrote:
             | As a lifelong runner it's best to do it by mileage not age.
             | Replace them somewhere between 300 and 600 miles (your
             | weight, leg length, form, surface, etc. all influence
             | this). I will add that over time historically the midsole
             | foam usually degrades so age is a factor too. I'd probably
             | suggest tossing them after 1.5 years or so or at least
             | having a fairly fresh pair to compare them to. The above
             | mostly applies to running but should be relevant for
             | walking too.
        
               | icpmacdo wrote:
               | Yes exactly, I sometimes push them a bit longer then your
               | upper bound as well to save money but you can really tell
               | the difference once you get a new pair.
               | 
               | My current pair is far overdue! Anyone here have
               | experience with the Gore-Tex 880's, are they good?
        
             | giantg2 wrote:
             | Most athletic shoes have a short life like that. The trend
             | tends to wear off. Even if it doesn't, you generally loose
             | grip as the compound ages. Also, the insole and other
             | cushioning stuff tends to break down and loose it's ability
             | to absorb shock, which can lead to joint and back pain.
        
             | kyriakos wrote:
             | If you walk 10km+ per day I'd say 1.5 year is too long to
             | keep them. It also depends on the kind of surfaces you walk
             | on.
        
         | ChuckNorris89 wrote:
         | Barefoot sock-shoes are my favorite
        
         | jibbers wrote:
         | Thrift store tennis shoes.
        
         | sophacles wrote:
         | The same shoes I use for almost everything: flip flops. I do 5+
         | miles a day in them and have for years.
         | 
         | Nothing fancy, just whatever is cheap and catches my eye - I
         | usually go through 2 pairs a year.
        
           | hombre_fatal wrote:
           | I also walk in flip flops. I'd go barefoot if I could.
        
         | shaftoe444 wrote:
         | Dr Martens.
        
         | bassrattle wrote:
         | Any Adidas shoes with Boost
        
           | pdmfz wrote:
           | I love ultraboosts but they wear out in <1 year for me
        
         | rr888 wrote:
         | Everyone is recommending different brands but it really depends
         | on your feet, posture and gait - there is no one brand or model
         | that fits everyone. And of course walking surface and climate
         | will impact as well. Dont buy online, go to a good store, ask
         | for advice and try a bunch on.
        
         | kyriakos wrote:
         | It's important to get new shoes regularly. I found out the hard
         | way that both my knees and back are affected by the shoes I
         | use. As shoes age they lose their cushioning which means more
         | vibrations are absorbed by your skeleton leading to pain or
         | uncomfortable feeling in the joints.
        
           | Fricken wrote:
           | Walking on pavement is particularly hard on joints, as every
           | footfall places exactly the same stresses on your legs. It's
           | better to walk on broken ground, which distributes the stress
           | and helps to develop stability through a broader range of
           | motion.
        
         | j3th9n wrote:
         | Vans Old Skool.
        
         | Tomte wrote:
         | Whatever you have that doesn't hurt simply from putting them
         | on.
         | 
         | If you're walking recreationally (maybe less than 10km in one
         | go) shoes are mostly irrelevant. No, you shouldn't use
         | Wellington boots, I guess.
        
           | n8cpdx wrote:
           | It really depends on your weight. If you are overweight and
           | not used to walking, comfortable shoes and socks make a big
           | difference.
           | 
           | Nike makes some good walking shoes that skew wider, but
           | definitely read the reviews first to confirm, since they
           | change between model years/revisions. For a while Downshifter
           | was my go to, recently the Revolution 6 has been a good
           | replacement.
        
             | otikik wrote:
             | It also depends on your feet. My case: I am a (heavy)
             | supinator. If I had to buy a pair of shoes for
             | walking/jogging a long distance I would look for supinator
             | shoes. These tend to have more support on the internal arc
             | of the feet.
             | 
             | However I got pediatric inserts designed by a foot doctor.
             | What he didn't tell me was that for those kinds of inserts
             | it is better to wear a wide shoe which accommodates the
             | inserts, but "neutral". I still was wearing my supinator
             | shoes. So it will not "overcompensate". This advice was
             | from a specialist running shoe shop. When I tried the
             | neutral one he offered me on one feet, and the old
             | "overcompensating" shoe I had, I noticed the lack of
             | stability immediately.
             | 
             | I have a friend whose problem is that their feet sweat more
             | than usual. In their case the solution was shoes with extra
             | ventilation around the soles.
        
             | andrewf wrote:
             | I've been travelling recently which pushed my daily step
             | count up from ~5k to ~20k for two weeks. I packed 3 pairs
             | of shoes but pretty quickly decided to stick with the
             | Revolution 6.
             | 
             | Also: soles wear out! If you walk/run more, you need to
             | replace your shoes more often.
        
           | LanceH wrote:
           | Broken in combat boots are some of the most comfortable
           | things I've ever worn, and great for walking.
        
             | eurasiantiger wrote:
             | But before they're broken in, they can cause serious issues
             | on longer walks. Metatarsal fractures are no joke.
        
         | kzrdude wrote:
         | Salomon rugged running shoes (trail run/triathlon type)
        
         | bookofjoe wrote:
         | Mephisto. A pair I bought in 1983 (factory rebuilt c. 2005) are
         | my favorites.
        
         | eimrine wrote:
         | Take the litest ones, but not take running shoes if you are not
         | going to run.
        
         | findthewords wrote:
         | Brooks, they don't have excessive cushioning (which is bad)
         | like my indoor Nike shoes.
        
       | autokad wrote:
       | I walk a lot, and I walk briskly, but my diet is ... not great.
       | When they take my bp at the doctors they are always like 'wow
       | your BP is so good'. and I'm like really? are you sure? I guess
       | the walking and doing so briskly helps a lot.
        
         | GuB-42 wrote:
         | There are genetic factors too.
         | 
         | Some people smoke, drink, eat junk food and never exercise and
         | have excellent blood pressure and never get fat. Others can't
         | keep in shape without tremendous efforts. Equality is for human
         | rights, but nature doesn't care.
        
         | hombre_fatal wrote:
         | I am very fit, 20k steps/day, lift daily, eat the DASH diet,
         | but have high BP if I eat salt, low if I don't. My girlfriend
         | isn't quite as healthy, loves salt ,but has super low BP no
         | matter what she eats. Genetics are far more powerful than I
         | realized. Sometimes nothing else seems to matter.
        
           | njarboe wrote:
           | Maybe with your genetics a higher BP is fine. Health studies
           | are often/usually wrong and BP has high variance. Not sure
           | how you could know though.
        
       | ahurmazda wrote:
       | Reminds me of zone 2 training [1]
       | 
       | My target (aka zone 2) is around 140 bpm which I can achieve by
       | walking fairly briskly -- I can still hold a telephone
       | conversation and breath through my nose.
       | 
       | I have tried running in the past but I kept injuring this or the
       | other (not at all athletic). Doing "slow" 10k+ steps per day
       | total did not help with my weight either. But just doing these
       | 1-hr zone-2 sessions (3-4x per week) made all the difference. Ofc
       | ymmv!
       | 
       | [1] https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-
       | fitness/fitness/zone-2...
        
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