[HN Gopher] iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland
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iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland
Author : axg
Score : 41 points
Date : 2022-09-14 21:50 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| yodsanklai wrote:
| I wonder if it's because I'm getting old and jaded, but I really
| fail to get excited by this continuous flow of new devices (and
| "stuff" in general). I could get a new iPhone from my company,
| but I don't even see the point.
| r00fus wrote:
| My family is excited for it simply because of the hand-me-down
| supply chain - someone gets a new phone, someone else a few
| hops down gets a gently used iPhone X and we donate/sell a
| still functional iPhone6s.
| n8cpdx wrote:
| Coming from a still enthusiastic tech person who loves iPhone,
| I don't think it's a you problem. This is clearly another S
| revision in all but name, for the second year in a row. I want
| to be excited but there's nothing particularly compelling
| unless you're coming from pre-2020 (or maybe pre-2019). I'm
| still loving my 12 mini and will probably use it for at least
| another year, maybe two.
|
| Compelling upgrades would be: another small variant (or smaller
| than 14 pro at least), something foldable (maybe, if done
| really really well), significantly improved battery life, bike
| computer functionality (CarPlay for bikes), or significantly
| improved performance (in a few years, maybe the 12 mini will be
| noticeably slow in 2024).
|
| The curse of releasing devices with hardware that's 3-5 years
| ahead of the competition in delivered performance (not just
| feature checklists) is that unless you wait 4+ years, new
| models don't always feel like upgrades.
| gordon_freeman wrote:
| I have iPhone 11 and I still don't think it is worth
| upgrading to 14 or 14Pro yet. I consider myself tech savvy
| person but I don't see a point to buy a new phone if my
| current phone takes good enough pics for myself and my family
| and friends to enjoy. Also if the speed of browsing web and
| opening and using apps is still good enough then what's the
| point of buying a new phone and polluting environment? As I
| see it, the latest iPhones are capable of at least 5 years of
| use and only may need to do is replace the battery once in
| that life span and I am happy with this approach.
| taf2 wrote:
| I agree... but I also think it's a great sign of slow but
| steady progress. The kind that will really standout in a few
| years. Comparing todays phone camera to a 2010 phone, makes me
| feel pretty good
| seanp2k2 wrote:
| As a ~normal person who uses their phone at least 4 hours per
| day, it's the single most important tech device in my life. I
| enjoy getting the best thing out there every upgrade cycle (2
| years). The progress feels incremental, but going back and
| using an n-1 gen phone reminds me how much slower things were.
| All of those extra half-second waits between interactions add
| up, and I enjoy having a quality camera with me wherever I go.
| There are also things like phone speaker quality that while
| hard to objectively measure and promote, have really improved
| over the years to the point where I don't hate doing things
| like watching educational or fun YouTube videos in bed in the
| morning.
| modernpink wrote:
| So why are you here? Most items on HN, hell, technology itself,
| is about new stuff.
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| Maybe he is here to be curious about why other people get
| excited...
|
| I know I am excited for when stable diffusion/DALLE level
| manipulation is built into the photo app and iMovie to
| compile cinema level clips while I sleep.
| supernova87a wrote:
| I would appreciate if articles reviewing cameras did a better job
| of explaining why the pixel count is just a single (and highly
| manipulable) measure of imaging merit.
|
| For all the pixel count, no company ever talks about pixel _size_
| (physical) and the noise characteristic as a result or the
| effective resolution. The imaging chip has not gotten physically
| larger between iPhones, I assume, so the pixels are just dividing
| the same light into more sites. Is this better?
|
| People who don't know will just assume that 48 MP, well that's
| better than a Sony A7RIII now, right? Of course not.
| gpt5 wrote:
| I'm not sure you are right here. The sensor size (and the lens
| speed) has been one of the key things Apple marketing has been
| leaning towards in the last few generations. Tech reviewers
| tend to repeat it back to their audience, which eventually lead
| to general consensus of Apple's camera system being superior.
| orbital-decay wrote:
| Sensor size in smartphones is also "highly manipulable",
| because the smartphones are very flat and have serious angle
| of incidence issues as the lens is too close to the sensor.
| If consumers demand larger sensors, sure it can be done - but
| it will reduce the amount of light that reaches the edges of
| the sensor, eating the possible increase in image quality.
| Smartphone cameras are limited by thickness, not by sensor
| sizes.
| iLoveOncall wrote:
| The article is very explicitly aimed at photographers, it's on
| a photographer's website, it's a review about only the camera,
| the conclusion is titled "buying advice for photographers",
| etc.
|
| If he was to explain what determines image quality, why not
| also demand that he explains aperture, focal length, etc.? It's
| just not aimed at that public.
| iLoveOncall wrote:
| Quite impressive when they shot at 48MP, but the pictures taken
| at 12MP just look like your bad, few generations old, non-pro
| iPhone photo.
|
| As a very amateur photograph that doesn't want to carry his DSLR
| all the time I considered getting it for the 48MP but after
| reading the review and seeing what would be most of the pictures
| I would take (the 12MP ones), it's a hard pass.
| ahepp wrote:
| I'm upgrading my iPhone 13 mini because having switched from a
| Pixel 4a, the camera performance is just unacceptably bad. It's
| a testament to how much I like the rest of the iPhone that I
| didn't just go back to the pixel. I briefly considered carrying
| the Pixel around just to take pictures.
| saurik wrote:
| Yeah... I love my iPhone XS Max, partly because it has 2x
| telephoto--not 2.5x, not 3x or _4x_ of all the ridiculous
| things: just a good 2x--and I essentially use that 2x telephoto
| lens every chance I can. They finally have come up with an
| iPhone that has brought back 2x telephoto... but as a digital
| simulation from 1x and thereby only at 12MP, and so it isn 't
| fundamentally different than my existing phone :/. (I do
| appreciate that the low light abilities are probably better,
| and maybe that should be worth it to quickly upgrade before
| they screw up 2x again.)
| ideamotor wrote:
| For real. Hardware 2x is instant buy.
| dividedbyzero wrote:
| What's wrong with the 3x ones on the 13 and 14 Pros?
| MBCook wrote:
| But the sensor the 2x crop is taken from is better than the
| old real 2x camera. So it should still be better.
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