[HN Gopher] Ask HN: What happened to theregister.com?
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       Ask HN: What happened to theregister.com?
        
       Asking here because I think there is probably a lot of overlap and
       maybe some knowledgeable insiders.  I used to visit The Register
       almost every day up until a few years ago. Back then, it was famous
       for its punny headlines, tongue-in-cheek reporting style, and all
       in all being a self-identified IT tabloid.  I visited it again a
       week or two ago, and it seems to have dropped the humourous tone
       and intentionally-obscure headlines, to become just one more samey
       IT news page.  Does anybody know what caused this transformation?
       Has it been acquired by a conglomerate or something? The nearest
       thing I've found is that its original Chief Editor left in May
       2019...
        
       Author : donpott
       Score  : 184 points
       Date   : 2022-09-09 13:15 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
       | jasonlotito wrote:
       | > Does anybody know what caused this transformation?
       | 
       | Maybe this?
       | 
       | > I used to visit The Register almost every day up until a few
       | years ago.
       | 
       | Years of not going
       | 
       | > I visited it again a week or two ago,
        
         | donpott wrote:
         | Do you mean that the "old" style didn't make it commercially
         | viable, and the "new" one does?
         | 
         | I would disagree. At least before I would visit it
         | intermittently whenever I remembered it existed. Now I have
         | zero interest in ever visiting it again.
        
           | jasonlotito wrote:
           | You disagree, but even you admit that the old style was
           | something you rarely, if ever, visited. So, when they try to
           | determine what their users enjoy, what you enjoy won't get
           | counted as much.
           | 
           | > Now I have zero interest in ever visiting it again.
           | 
           | You barely had any interest in visiting in the first place.
           | You don't build a commercially viable product by catering to
           | people who routinely do not use you.
           | 
           | You can disagree, but again, you didn't visit for years at a
           | time, so it doesn't matter.
        
             | donpott wrote:
             | That's a fair point. I'm finding the thread interesting
             | because it has helped divorce my personal experience from
             | (some of) the english-speaking tech community at large.
             | 
             | For me, a theme that's arising is that the previous style
             | was pretty polarising, but at the same time it was a
             | differentiator. Now, it's neither of those.
             | 
             | It appears that this works better for them commercially,
             | too; so more power to them.
        
       | bennyp101 wrote:
       | I used to visit it everyday from the early 2000's, but I don't
       | think I have really visited in the last 3-4 years. I can't put a
       | finger on it, but the writing and then subsequently the comments
       | (which were always fun) kinda started falling off.
       | 
       | I still have it in my bookmark bar, but as I still cant get the
       | favicon to load properly in Firefox, I forget to click on it :)
        
         | josefresco wrote:
         | Same here. Used to be a daily for me, then for some reason I
         | dropped it and completely forgot about it until this post.
         | Maybe around the time Digg imploded? I'm not sure.
        
         | speedbird wrote:
         | Same. Used to really like some of the old stuff, like Lewis's,
         | but these days I only visit if an item is linked from here.
        
           | Angostura wrote:
           | Ah, Lewis' old diatribes about how climate change was trash.
        
       | quickthrower2 wrote:
       | Example of the previous editorial style:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20190410065314/https://www.there...
        
         | antisthenes wrote:
         | Bland tabloid then, and bland tabloid now. What changed?
         | 
         | I really don't see much of a difference
        
           | xtracto wrote:
           | I don't know... for me, who read it in the mid 2000s it was
           | kind of like reading the "Big Issue" or the "Metro" in the
           | UK: Sometimes I wanted to read low thinking tabloid funny
           | news. The Register was great for that. Nowadays it is Yet
           | Another Technology Website.
        
         | taffronaut wrote:
         | That's a real contrast. The current site is a shadow of its
         | former self. The new stuff doesn't even seem to be paid-for
         | placement - just lame outsourced copy.
        
           | robertlagrant wrote:
           | Everything, good or bad, regresses to the mean.
        
         | BurnerBouy wrote:
         | An actual example of the previous editorial style:
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20050428082501/http://www.thereg...
        
       | diodesign wrote:
       | Hello, I'm Chris Williams, the editor of The Register. Maybe I
       | can answer some of these Qs.
       | 
       | > what caused this transformation?
       | 
       | All things have to evolve and move with the times. As you've
       | said, we were known, for example, for "intentionally-obscure
       | headlines." Guess what, that works for some people - and it was
       | fun - but it was holding us back reaching many more people, not
       | just from the headline tone but also aggregation and sharing. And
       | I want our original, technical, and best coverage seen by as many
       | folks as possible.
       | 
       | The Reg has been going for 20+ years. We have to keep up with
       | what people want. And yes, some people liked the 2010s era, some
       | missed the 2000s era, but also many more thought we weren't
       | taking journalism seriously. We do take it seriously (we don't
       | take ourselves too seriously) and I'd hate for headlines to hold
       | that back.
       | 
       | What's really changed is that we've styled the main headlines to
       | be more accessible in every way, and still keep our sardonic,
       | informed voice in stories and sub-headlines. We have a mix of
       | core IT stories; software and open source; where life meets tech;
       | science; and more, written in a way that gives our tech readers a
       | voice.
       | 
       | If you haven't read us in a while, then yes, we've changed
       | visibly. If you've been reading us for more than a year or two,
       | the change will have been fairly gradual as we tune our headlines
       | to match what people expect from an irreverent technical title.
       | 
       | > Has it been acquired by a conglomerate?
       | 
       | No, it's still independently owned, with owners who give
       | editorial free rein. It's documented in UK Companies House.
       | 
       | > its original Chief Editor left in May 2019
       | 
       | No, you're thinking of an executive editor who left around then,
       | who wasn't in a management position (think editor-at-large).
       | 
       | C.
        
         | travisgriggs wrote:
         | Can you share with us how this is working? Are you indeed
         | seeing a wider audience? I don't visit as much as I used to (I
         | checked just now and wasn't pulled in), but if you're able to
         | better put bread on your tables for the changes, then I get it.
         | I'd be curious if you'd be willing to share any candid
         | observations of what you've seen since drifting these changes
         | in.
        
         | LinuxBender wrote:
         | _All things have to evolve and move with the times._
         | 
         | This makes sense. Somewhere I have an old hacker t-shirt that
         | says _Evolve or die_ that supports the mantra.
         | 
         | If I could make one feature request of ElReg it would be that
         | the system used by your editors puts a hard cap on article
         | descriptions to 80 characters so I do not have to do creative
         | editorializing of the links when I submit them here. At times I
         | find it very difficult to submit a link and have it still make
         | sense.
        
         | spaceman_2020 wrote:
         | Another victim of SEO requirements :(
         | 
         | Punny headlines unfortunately are terrible for targeting
         | keywords
        
           | lofaszvanitt wrote:
           | Exactly, that's why s-engine monopolies are bad. People don't
           | see it, but it is a big step towards giving fellatio to a
           | machine. If you want to be unique you will suffer, because
           | the shitty search engine that has monopoly over the market
           | governs what will get a green light and what won't. And as
           | the years pass more and more the faceless, intangible corpo
           | backed machine bullshit will govern our lives.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | You can compensate somewhat in the metadata but you still
           | need to convince people to click and it's very easy to cross
           | the line from clever but clear to punny and obscure. I
           | imagine that if I looked through the current issue of The
           | Economist, I'd find some clever headlines but it would still
           | be pretty clear what the stories were about.
           | 
           | This isn't a new thing. When I was an industry analyst we
           | also liked to do clever stuff in titles which at least one
           | editor pushed back on. However, we were mostly a fully
           | paywalled subscription so it was less of a consideration in
           | our case.
        
         | LetMeInNowMate wrote:
         | > but it was holding us back reaching many more people,
         | 
         | Christ mate! Long term El-Reg reader here.
         | 
         | The pure Blightly, homegrown, sarcastic piss taking tone is
         | _why_ I read the Reg, and so do many others. Selling out to
         | some bland US-corporate bullshit WILL loose you readers.
         | 
         | And BTW, can we have the 'Paris' icon back? Please.
        
           | tejtm wrote:
           | Exactly, as a Murcan, how else could I have learned to whinge
           | about trick-cyclists? you know with a setting, ala
           | old.reddit, you could double down and get those things that
           | need getting said out of the way for your neutered
           | newsletter.
        
           | rdxm wrote:
        
         | 2ringtest wrote:
         | The Register used to be for dicks, now it's actually good. So
         | well done Chris!
        
           | jahnu wrote:
           | I stopped reading it years ago when it started getting
           | gratuitously contrarian. After this reply from Chris I'm
           | going to give it another go now.
        
           | trelane wrote:
           | Now its just for Tom and Harry?
        
             | jachee wrote:
             | Sure, but also Jane.
        
         | hateful wrote:
         | I am seeing a parallel here to the article posted yesterday
         | about how everything is measured by engagement:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32765002
         | 
         | As a product, I would think that you would survive by finding a
         | niche and expanding it. But these changes seem to try to
         | compete for engagement rather than serve the niche.
         | 
         | Yes, you expand your business and make more money - but I would
         | also think that the competition would be more fierce as a trade
         | off.
         | 
         | Kind of wish it could be a setting "sarcasm on".
         | 
         | It's also very similar to how by a bands second or third album
         | (after they hit it big) - they end up changing their sound
         | (often sounding like every other band in the process) - because
         | they go on tour and then they tailor their music to what makes
         | the crown react more.
        
         | xtracto wrote:
         | This is so interesting, I used to read The Register back in the
         | mid 2000s. I learned about it by stories posted to /. and later
         | loved the headers, it is what attracted my attention. For one
         | reason or another I stopped reading it and a couple of months
         | ago I stumbled upon an article and remembered I liked it quite
         | a lot.
         | 
         | Now I understand why it has not captured my attention in these
         | last years: I checked the homepage and the titles are pretty
         | vanilla, they don't read tongue in cheek not witty, which is
         | something I liked. Nothing wrong with that, I assume the
         | standard editorial style attracts a broader audience.
        
         | riedel wrote:
         | I think it is good that independent media outlets transition
         | rather than die. I liked the old days better, but I truly admit
         | that ppl like me that came once in a while (mostly to get a
         | totally different view in a very concrete news item) wouldn't
         | pay your bills. For me the the tone was the USP: it signalled
         | clearly independence from the copy and paste rest. Probably
         | today you could achieve sth very similar with a language model,
         | so you were probably wise to abandon it, before all other news
         | site would have looked like yours. Still some how I believe
         | that this could have been the better reality.
        
         | oxfordmale wrote:
         | The problem now is that you take journalism serious and it has
         | just become yet another boring website. A lot of articles also
         | read like advertisements in disguise.
        
           | oceanplexian wrote:
           | Same thing happened with Engadget and Gizmodo. Used to
           | absolutely love reading them on a daily basis, product
           | reviews were always super technical and a bit off the wall,
           | it had that hackaday-type vibe.
           | 
           | Now they are a spammy lowest-common-denominator pop culture
           | "tech news" and cell phone reviews.
        
         | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
         | For what it's worth, El Reg is still a daily visit for me (I
         | think I've probably done so, for 20 years), and I've been known
         | to fly in and sprinkle drops of Holy Pee (in the comments
         | section -I don't do any authoring of content), from time to
         | time.
         | 
         | I like that it (still, despite the insinuation) is a RedTop in
         | spirit, and I am generally quite impressed by the technical
         | level of its staff.
         | 
         | I do like that you have given Dabbsy and Simon a good home.
         | Thanks for that.
         | 
         | Just one drop in the ocean of data, but I'm glad you guys are
         | around.
        
           | UncleSlacky wrote:
           | Dabbsy's gone, unfortunately. Not sure what went on there,
           | but I suspect he wasn't "serious" enough. He's still at
           | Autosave is for Wimps though:
           | 
           | https://autosaveisforwimps.substack.com
        
             | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
             | Aw, that's sad. I enjoyed his SFTW stuff.
        
         | donpott wrote:
         | Hi Chris,
         | 
         | OP here. Just wanted to say thanks a million for taking he time
         | and sharing your insightful reply. I don't have any
         | original/interesting points to make, so I'll let the other
         | commenters follow-up.
        
         | alisonatwork wrote:
         | Thank you for responding to this topic, although what you're
         | saying does disappoint me. I've been an on-and-off Reg reader
         | since the Slashdot days, and I loved the style. But, like many
         | UK media outlets in the past few years, there seems to be a
         | push to "globalize" the product - most notably by replacing
         | .co.uk domains with .com, but also in reducing the cynicism and
         | irreverence that used to make UK media worth reading even for
         | people who weren't living in the UK. Nowadays I'm finding it's
         | getting hard to distinguish British outlets from American
         | outlets a lot of the time - presumably because everyone needs
         | to optimize their content to suit the lowest-common-denominator
         | algorithms of US-owned tech giants. I can't really blame you
         | for following suit, but it does contribute to the overall
         | homogenization of the media, in my opinion.
        
           | anthk wrote:
           | Spaniard here. Back in the day we had Slashdot (most
           | IT/science educated guys in Spain can at least read English
           | because of obvious requeriments on academia) and a Spanish
           | analogue, Barrapunto (same meaning, slash/bar and
           | punto/dot/point). A literal clone, with quality comments and
           | lots of folks teaching and learning at. Later, a Digg clone
           | appeared, Meneame (lit. "shake me"), a Digg clone to
           | share/aggregate news.
           | 
           | But the sad thing it's Barrapunto is not more since a decade
           | (they plugged the servers down a few years ago) and Meneame
           | took its position, and politic arguments took over the
           | "geeky" environment.
           | 
           | I miss these days, I could learn geeky and tech stuff in both
           | languages and chat with geniouses daily. Reddit did the same
           | for Slashdot, ok, but you kept Slashdot on.
           | 
           | Here, in the Spanish world (not even the whole Hispanic world
           | across th pond) the legacy tech sites are dead, even for the
           | Usenet es.* and esp.* (for latam hiers) . You have Slashdot
           | at least, Ars Technica, Usenet, IRC and even Fido/Dovenet.
        
             | silasdavis wrote:
             | Classic missing the punto HN side comment (sorry), but as a
             | britanico learning Spanish I thought it would be good to
             | try and learn the Spanish keyboard layout. Barra punto is
             | horribly hard to type. I keep having to switch when I want
             | to run something in CWD. I do appreciate the dedicated
             | jamon key though.
        
               | Bakary wrote:
               | As someone who needs to cycle between multiple languages
               | I fully recommend the use of the "US international"
               | layout in this scenario
        
           | marttt wrote:
           | ".. like many UK media outlets in the past few years, there
           | seems to be a push to "globalize" the product .. also in
           | reducing the cynicism and irreverence that used to make UK
           | media worth reading even for people who weren't living in the
           | UK."
           | 
           | Isn't this actually a more general cultural shift. On the
           | societal level, or on the level of the entire developed
           | world. It often feels like people are simply tired of
           | cynicism these days.
           | 
           | Being a trained journalist, I have observed something similar
           | in my own country: former witty, extremely-clever-but-cynical
           | outlets have changed to a more neutral style in recent years.
           | I do think this is an obvious win for journalism, or at least
           | for investigative reporting. They can possibly dig a little
           | deeper this way. More focus on the hard work of bringing
           | serious problems to light, less focus on crafting mean
           | headlines.
           | 
           | Also, as a side note, I'd say it is actually much easier to
           | write a "cynical" headline as compared to one that is not
           | mean, but still playful and multi-layered. IMO cynicism is
           | mostly a low-hanging fruit; which is why this is such a
           | common "closet addiction" in many newsrooms.
        
         | caeril wrote:
         | > as we tune our headlines to match what people expect from an
         | irreverent technical title.
         | 
         | Except you're not irreverent at all anymore. You're basically
         | Ars and CNET. Why on earth you'd abandon your readership to
         | attract people who already read Ars, and are unlikely to move,
         | is beyond me.
        
         | givemeethekeys wrote:
         | I'm sure you're doing whats best for the organization. The
         | changes took away from what made you unique, fun and
         | independent.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | travisgriggs wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing Chris.
         | 
         | Sounds basically like you were left with:
         | 
         | "To Assimilate or To Differentiate? That is The [Business]
         | Question."
         | 
         | (to misquote another great British writer)
        
         | gerdesj wrote:
         | I've been a British reader of el Reg for roughly 20 years.
         | Please do remember where you came from and how your brand came
         | to differentiate itself.
         | 
         | You have aggressively used the word "folks" without a license
         | 8)
         | 
         | el Reg has always had a tone and attitude all of its own. Let's
         | face it the forums are pretty functionally crap and yet it sort
         | of works.
         | 
         | Mess with the format at your peril - make the forums/comments
         | work effectively ... that would be nice.
         | 
         | I have no idea why you insist on calling it "the Reg", it's
         | currently "el Reg" due to the Spanish influence unless you can
         | do better ...
         | 
         | Do you remember say "Eadon"? or a Canadian bloke with a
         | decently potty mouth (Trev).
        
         | bubblematrix wrote:
        
         | KennyBlanken wrote:
         | > As you've said, we were known, for example, for
         | "intentionally-obscure headlines." Guess what, that works for
         | some people - and it was fun - but it was holding us back
         | reaching many more people, not just from the headline tone but
         | also aggregation and sharing. And I want our original,
         | technical, and best coverage seen by as many folks as possible.
         | 
         | This is like being a curry shop known for having intensely
         | flavorful but spicy curry - thus having dedicated fans who
         | enjoy that flavor - and toning it down in flavor and spice
         | because you want to have more general appeal. Now nobody thinks
         | of you as "that shop with the intense curry" but just one of
         | many curry shops.
         | 
         | Now you're just like every other shitty tech news website and
         | competing for the same generic eyeballs who will read a story
         | from you that happens to appear in google news and never come
         | back.
        
           | noAnswer wrote:
           | OP literally left despise them having "intense curry".
        
             | donpott wrote:
             | OP here. I think it's an apt metaphor. To expand/clarify, I
             | would say that the spiciness of the curry was at the same
             | time hard work (ie. having to parse the headlines, for
             | example) and the main reason I went to this restaurant (it
             | made it unique, it was a differentiator). I would visit it
             | occasionally for a treat (or whenever a big event happened
             | in Tech, although I'm mixing my metaphors now), but not as
             | something one does every day.
        
           | jimmaswell wrote:
           | But it's just the headlines allegedly, not the rest of the
           | writing, at least.
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | In 20 years el Reg has had several, well incarnations is too
       | strong a word, but let's just say its nature has evolved. I think
       | this is is pretty much the nature of any organization. The Lester
       | Haines era
       | (https://www.theregister.com/2016/06/16/lester_haines_obituar...
       | ) was quite good -- I think his presence must have inspired
       | others to creativity and lunacy in their prose. Orlowski was
       | really really good but you can't do the same thing forever.
       | 
       | FWIW, lately I feel like it's been on an uptick.
       | 
       | Let's compare it to google which had a burst of activity and even
       | inspiration at first and then lost its way after Schmidt stopped
       | being CEO. OK, El Reg isn't one of the largest corporations in
       | the world (well, at least they won't admit it and hide it well)
       | but on this dimension I think it's done better than Google.
        
       | Andwalle wrote:
       | What happened to ZDNEt is the question isn't it?
        
       | nmeofthestate wrote:
       | I was never a fan of the Register's IMO smug, smart-alec English
       | IT guy "voice".
        
         | Bakary wrote:
         | There's so much American-centric content in the anglo internet
         | that literally anything else is most welcome
        
       | secondcoming wrote:
       | It hasn't been the same since around the time Andrew Orlowski
       | left.
       | 
       | The politics (identity and anti-Trump reddit-style) stuff crept
       | in too, especially from its San Fran office, but you could
       | obviously just choose to ignore those articles. It's not
       | something I want from a tech site though.
       | 
       | It's a shame, ElReg and Slashdot used be my go-to site for tech
       | content.
        
       | bryanlarsen wrote:
       | Mike Magee was co founder of the Register and established its
       | style. He left in 2001, and the Register has been declining ever
       | since.
        
         | chasil wrote:
         | I believe he then started the inquirer.net which ran for
         | another decade.
         | 
         | I remember them occasionally featuring a fragment of a poem by
         | Alexander Pope:                 "Damn with faint praise, assent
         | with civil leer,       And without sneering, teach the rest to
         | sneer."
         | 
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damning_with_faint_praise
        
           | rozab wrote:
           | To see this gloriously realised, check out CGP Grey's
           | description of Pope's feud with Thomas Hearne. Linking the
           | full video because it's a masterpiece
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEV9qoup2mQ
        
         | krmboya wrote:
         | Declining since 2001! That must be such a glacial decline
        
         | Justin_K wrote:
         | I really felt that when Larry the janitor left in 1998 is when
         | the decline started.
        
           | csa wrote:
           | I miss Larry. Backbone of the org.
        
       | bell-cot wrote:
       | While Vulture Classic's (the old style's) sardonic 'tude was not
       | always implemented well, it was a very welcome alternative to the
       | mainstream's Sisyphean treadmill of "$VendorName $ProductName
       | $NewVersionNumber Is New And Improved Yet Again!". Their 'tude
       | let you at least pretend that their journalists weren't sock
       | puppets for the industry heavyweights, and the headlines
       | certainly made reading the news a bit more fun.
       | 
       | Looking for some upside - Vulture Classic was pretty alcoholic
       | and misogynistic - two features which I found rather
       | unattractive.
        
       | cesaref wrote:
       | It certainly had an unconventional approach, which was considered
       | a tabloid style (similar to the 'red top' newspapers in the UK,
       | the sun, the mirror etc)
       | 
       | I believe Mike Magee who was one of the founders was responsible
       | for this, and he was involved until he fell out with the
       | direction it was going in the early 2000s, and went on to form
       | The Inquirer, which was a similar publication (although long
       | gone).
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Magee_(journalist)
       | 
       | I guess over time The Register has morphed to try and be taken
       | more seriously (in I imagine a rather competitive market), it
       | hides it's original tagline - biting the hand that feeds IT
        
       | gjsman-1000 wrote:
       | Not sure, but my theory is that Google SEO had to do with it
       | after Google tried to remove false or misleading headlines around
       | the election and afterwards. At the time (and still somewhat
       | now), satire was/is often quite lost on Google. This presumably
       | hurt ad revenues.
        
       | traceroute66 wrote:
       | I agree, El Reg is a shadow of its former self.
       | 
       | There has been a decline in quality with obvious errors caused by
       | poor research or rushed publishing. There has been an increase in
       | sponsored copy, and also a marked hardening of its already
       | notorious Apple bashing.
       | 
       | There have also been a number of occasions where they've simply
       | missed reporting on important topics altogether.
       | 
       | Also on their forums, there has been a decline in quality of
       | contributions. For a while it still used to be worth going to El
       | Reg just to read the forums, but even that is becoming
       | increasingly pointless.
        
       | nickdothutton wrote:
       | No-longer "biting the hand that feeds IT".
        
         | donaldihunter wrote:
         | It still has this slogan in the page footer.
        
       | NKosmatos wrote:
       | Yeap, I agree. I've been reading technological news from El Reg
       | since around 2000 and their writing style has changed a lot, it's
       | not as humorous as it used to be.
       | 
       | Once of the only reasons to visit them nowadays is for the BOFH
       | (new episode every Friday):
       | https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/
        
         | r6752366a wrote:
         | Verity Stob was my reason for visiting:
         | https://www.theregister.com/Author/Verity-Stob/
        
         | hn_go_brrrrr wrote:
         | BOFH hasn't been every week since the mid-00s. I wish it were!
        
           | trelane wrote:
           | Eh, there's only so much of that to be had. At some point, it
           | becomes formulaic.
        
       | gandalfian wrote:
       | Weirder is what happened to its successor theinquirer.net? It was
       | bought and then erased. Who does that? Was it a copyright thing?
       | 
       | Otherwise theregister hit that brief window between professional
       | magazine publishing and every teenager with a phone becoming a
       | tech blogger, the brief window when website publishing was cheap
       | but not yet overcrowded.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | if someone's website was "stealing" traffic from your website,
         | then purchasing the offending site and shutting it down would
         | be business move to eliminate competition.
        
           | adrianwaj wrote:
           | I think you may be right. TheInquirer's shutdown screen in
           | 2019 mentioned that it started in 2006, when really it
           | started in 2001. So whoever shut it down was either ignorant
           | of how/when it began or they wanted to mislead about the
           | early days.
           | 
           | See here:
           | 
           | https://web.archive.org/web/20200331234933/https://www.thein.
           | ..
           | 
           | https://i.imgur.com/hqh9aTe.jpg (shutdown screen)
           | 
           | https://web.archive.org/web/20010405023100/http://www.theinq.
           | .. (2001)
        
       | return_to_monke wrote:
       | If we are on the topic, could someone suggest some sites with a
       | similar style and topic?
        
       | Andwalle wrote:
       | Andrew Orlowski! He writes for the Daily Telegraph, which is the
       | UKs equivalent of Fox News. Everything is uphill from there
        
         | Veen wrote:
         | The Telegraph is nothing like Fox News, except insofar as it is
         | a center-right publication. The tone, quality, and perspective
         | are utterly different.
        
         | jen20 wrote:
         | The Sun is the UK equivalent of Fox News.
        
           | BurnerBouy wrote:
           | You've never the Telegraph
        
       | jamal-kumar wrote:
       | Didn't they make some grand announcement about shutting down a
       | few years ago?
       | 
       | I can see how someone might not allow that to happen and then
       | just milk the thing.
        
         | diodesign wrote:
         | You're probably thinking of TheInquirer.net, which was founded
         | by a co-founder of The Register, and shut down in the past few
         | years.
         | 
         | C.
        
       | NGRhodes wrote:
       | They had a great formula. Used to get some good scoop, a humorous
       | spin whilst having a decent level of factual accuracy. Sadly,
       | they now need to compete with social media and memes, the newer
       | generations of internet user treat websites as a secondary source
       | of news and entertainment.
        
         | rvbissell wrote:
         | So their solution to that shift in their market is to become
         | more stodgy?
        
       | sn0w_monkie wrote:
       | Churnalism as an industry is very broken sadly T_T. Advertisers
       | want to see engagement and the easiest way to do that is to suck
       | up to Google SEO and pump more articles on the daily. Original
       | and accurate reporting is expensive to produce. Only the biggest
       | publishers or ones that are well funded can afford to do this. So
       | in order to get the reader's eyeballs and clicks, the guys in the
       | middle and bottom tiers have to crank out news and end up
       | rehashing what has already been broken by bigger orgs. That's why
       | The Register mostly looks like any other mediocre tech site now.
       | I know someone who used to be a reporter and they got tired of
       | having to rewrite stories for little pay.
        
       | BMc2020 wrote:
       | digg dot com, metafilter dot com, reddit dot com, craigslist dot
       | com - all still around but I no longer go to them because they
       | have changed so much.
        
         | DanAtC wrote:
         | Fark still feels about the same
        
         | standyro wrote:
         | It's not 2006 anymore
        
           | rnd0 wrote:
           | Sadly, no it is not.
        
       | johnklos wrote:
       | I noticed the change right around the time they stopped having a
       | distinct landing page for "theregister.co.uk", which I preferred
       | because of their slightly more provincial bent, and instead
       | started redirecting everyone, everywhere to "theregister.com".
       | 
       | It's sad, because much of its appeal was precisely how different
       | they were from common IT coverage that was and still is mostly
       | written for non-IT types.
        
       | WesolyKubeczek wrote:
       | Those punny headlines have been annoying me.
        
       | no-dr-onboard wrote:
       | Sad to see it turn this way.
       | 
       | Now if we want to tounge-in-cheek tech humour, we are left with.
       | . . techdirt.com?
        
       | randombits0 wrote:
       | I still have the vulture t-shirt with the tag line, "Biting the
       | hand that feeds IT!".
       | 
       | For me the FQDN will always be www.theregister.co.uk.
        
       | bxparks wrote:
       | Funny enough, I stopped reading the Register after a few attempts
       | because I disliked its headlines and tone. "To each his own" I
       | guess.
        
         | runxel wrote:
         | Funny enough, as a person whose native language is not English,
         | The Register always went above my head. I knew it was meant to
         | be snarky or funny, but it always left me stumbling and I never
         | was quite sure if not the whole page was just an elaborate
         | shitjoke.
        
           | nottorp wrote:
           | As a non native speaker who has watched everything Monty
           | Python and read everything Adams and Pratchett (in English, i
           | mean they're translatable but it's a HARD job), I loved the
           | old El Reg.
           | 
           | When they changed tone i just thought they got bought out and
           | gave up.
        
           | LetMeInNowMate wrote:
           | As a Brit: Can I suggest this is not because your native
           | language isn't English.... but is beacuse you are unfamiliar
           | with our rather sly sense of humour?
        
         | rwmj wrote:
         | You have to see it in the context of British tabloids (mass-
         | readership, low-brow newspapers), especially of the 80s and
         | 90s. The Register was emulating this style of irreverant
         | journalism. For example have a look at some _Sun_ headlines:
         | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3654446.stm
        
           | CommieBobDole wrote:
           | Yeah, that's exactly why I never really got into the site; I
           | got the joke, it just seemed weirdly awkward and off-putting,
           | like having a coworker who talks like a pirate all day, every
           | day. It's funny at first, but it drives you crazy after a
           | while.
        
             | asddubs wrote:
             | if they do it long and consistently enough i think i would
             | oscillate between finding it funny and driving me crazy
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | And particularly if you were on the receiving end of a
               | bit of excessive snark you sort of ended up having to
               | talk people down that it's just The Reg being The Reg.
               | And, of course, if you follow that style, you _will_
               | overdo it not infrequently. I could name a few people on
               | Twitter like that.
               | 
               | It can be funny but it can also get in the way of serious
               | points you want to make.
        
       | rseech01 wrote:
       | The Register used to be required reading for BOFH. More oriented
       | to folks in the UK, but I used to enjoy this series. If you have
       | some time to kill check out some of the articles.
        
       | jacooper wrote:
       | Personally I have just discovered the Register this year, and I
       | like them a lot.
       | 
       | I have seen how the old style was, yes it different, but I
       | wouldn't say its a run of the mill IT website.
       | 
       | Its reporting is pretty good, and they have good opinion pieces,
       | like intel optane possible revolution for IT(1), tracking
       | obfuscation by big tech (2) and safari WebKit limiting mobile web
       | (3) articles.
       | 
       | 1.
       | https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/01/optane_intel_cancella...
       | 
       | 2. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/23/opinion_column/
       | 
       | 3.
       | https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/06/big_techs_big_privacy...
       | 
       | There are other website like InfoWorld, which produced articles
       | like how docker broke in half, however their website is annoying,
       | and in general less focus on FOSS/Linux.
       | 
       | https://www.infoworld.com/article/3632142/how-docker-broke-i...
        
         | lproven wrote:
         | Thank you for including one of my pieces in there!
        
         | kitd wrote:
         | The reporting is fine. The commenters do my head in tho
        
           | lproven wrote:
           | Don't worry -- that goes for the writers, too. ;-)
        
       | franze wrote:
       | SEO happened
        
       | GGSec wrote:
        
         | InCityDreams wrote:
         | "It's crept back onto my lists recently"
         | 
         | Wrists (line 1), or you did actually mean 'lists'?
         | 
         | ...given the '....suicide headlines'.
         | 
         | ?
        
       | LorenDB wrote:
       | When I saw this, I thought "probably about the changing of the
       | header to black instead of red" (presumably due to Queen
       | Elizabeth's death?).
        
       | JaceLightning wrote:
       | Huh. Never heard of There Gister.com before
        
         | crackercrews wrote:
         | Maybe you'd recognize the original domain, There Gister.co.uk?
        
           | JaceLightning wrote:
           | Ahh a that's probably it
        
       | iso1631 wrote:
       | Oh, interesting, I might have to start reading it. I used to read
       | it back in the late 90s and early 00s but the tabloid style put
       | me off
       | 
       | (I assume this is the .com is the same as theregister.co.uk --
       | the place that bought BOFH etc)
        
       | oxff wrote:
       | It is like reading articles made by language model.
        
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