[HN Gopher] It's time to upscale FSR 2 even further: Meet FSR 2.1
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       It's time to upscale FSR 2 even further: Meet FSR 2.1
        
       Author : WithinReason
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2022-09-08 15:12 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | monkmartinez wrote:
       | How do AMD gpus compare with Nvidia for deeplearning workloads?
       | Configuration is tough enough on your own hardware with Nvidia. I
       | have zero experience with AMD cards and suspect the challenge
       | would be greater. I do note that I saw support for AMD pretty
       | early on last week when Stable-Diffusion was released.
       | 
       | Nvidia may pull some pricing shenanigans for the rest of 2022 and
       | into 2023 according to this video[1] I watched. I would be
       | thrilled to see some real competition for workloads that are not
       | gaming. Nvidia just dominates so far as I can tell.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15FX4pez1dw
        
         | nolist_policy wrote:
         | Very easy actually. This is not officially documented, but with
         | a recent enough kernel you don't have to install anything. You
         | can grab the official rocm container and it'll just work. For
         | example for Stable Diffusion see
         | https://github.com/AshleyYakeley/stable-diffusion-rocm/blob/...
        
         | cercatrova wrote:
         | Just don't bother with AMD if you want wide support for deep
         | learning. While it is getting better, CUDA is king and will
         | remain so for the future. I had an AMD GPU and I gave up and
         | bought an Nvidia one for ML workloads. The gaming features are
         | also superior to AMD's equivalents as well, like RTX and DLSS.
        
           | nextaccountic wrote:
           | I just don't want to support nvidia :(
        
           | black_puppydog wrote:
           | Out of interest, when did you try this?
           | 
           | I just set up pytorch on a machine the other day and while I
           | don't own an AMD GPU I saw that they offer a ROCm version on
           | their "getting started" page [1] and it doesn't seem to be
           | more difficult than the other options.
           | 
           | I could imagine if you run other frameworks, or if you
           | compile custom (c++) modules for pytorch then it could be an
           | issue, but frankly that has been becoming exceedingly rare
           | (at least for me).
           | 
           | Would love to hear your or anyone's experiences since I, like
           | the sibling comment, don't want to shove any more money to
           | nvidia.
           | 
           | [1]: https://pytorch.org/get-started/locally/
        
             | krastanov wrote:
             | ROCm (AMD's answer to CUDA) is already pretty great on
             | supported GPUs. For me the problem at this point is that
             | not many of their consumer GPUs have "official" support for
             | it (although unofficially things are a bit better).
        
             | homarp wrote:
             | installing ROCm is bit of a pain (there is little
             | packaging, so you have to rebuild it yourself, and like
             | fellow comment is saying, support is uncertain (and it does
             | _not_ work on APU))
             | 
             | Search who's running Stable Diffusion on Nvidia and who's
             | running on AMD: if you are using AMD, you are kind of on
             | your own.
             | 
             | Finally, you have model with custom CUDA code (e.g.
             | https://github.com/sniklaus/3d-ken-burns )
        
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       | WithinReason wrote:
       | Wonder how long AMD's hand crafted upscalers can keep up with
       | Nvidia's neural networks. Probably not long, and AMD is adding a
       | tensor core equivalent in their next gen:
       | 
       | https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-adds-wmma-wave-matrix-multip...
        
         | izacus wrote:
         | They already can't keep up (DLSS has always been better), but
         | not having to buy a new nVidia core for FSR is a massive
         | selling point for the technology. Even Steam Deck supports it.
        
           | highwind wrote:
           | I don't know which game implements it but the Nintendo
           | Switch's system license lists FSR as one of the libraries
           | that it uses. So I guess even Nintendo Switch supports it.
        
           | hajile wrote:
           | What is the cost (in both time and money) of having to run
           | every patch and update through Nvidia's upscaling service?
        
             | ZekeSulastin wrote:
             | That isn't a thing in DLSS 2.
        
           | cypress66 wrote:
           | Steam deck supports FSR 1, which is basically unrelated to
           | FSR 2 and DLSS.
        
             | jerojero wrote:
             | Steam deck also supports FSR2 just not globally like it
             | does FSR1.
             | 
             | For FSR2 you need game-specific data so it's dependent on
             | the game developers to adopt it.
        
           | m-p-3 wrote:
           | It can even be implemented in consoles version of the game.
        
       | ParksNet wrote:
       | Looking forward to the Digital Foundry video.
        
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