[HN Gopher] Mangroves on a Landfill
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Mangroves on a Landfill
Author : prismatic
Score : 46 points
Date : 2022-09-05 16:19 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| aarondf wrote:
| If this interests you, I've been watching a lot of permaculture
| and regenerative agriculture videos on YouTube and there is some
| _really_ encouraging stuff going on out there!
|
| I have no idea how to make the restorative stuff go more
| mainstream, but it's really impressive to watch small communities
| or determined individuals entirely change a landscape in a few
| decades.
|
| A few I've enjoyed:
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| - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T39QHprz-x8
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| - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPkcpGmflE
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| - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4OBcRHX1Bc
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| - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuYGS5pLRZg
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| - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yORlix6CV60
| luckylion wrote:
| I've enjoyed a few of those as well, but there's one thing that
| keep bugging me.
|
| Supposedly it takes very little time, little investment (a few
| people doing most of it by hand with some guidance) and works
| like magic (e.g. Al Baydha Project).
|
| Why isn't there a "revolution" happening and every neighboring
| area also adopting that approach?
|
| So much of it seems so obvious, I'd expect some people with
| excavators building some berms in the US deserts and the place
| exploding with life in a year or three. But it doesn't happen.
| Why? Are there any issues that aren't shown in the films? Are
| there powerful enemies (who wants to keep the desert deserted?)
| that are lobbying against it?
| aarondf wrote:
| You've articulated my exact thought after watching these too!
| I have no idea, and I'd be curious to find out as well.
|
| Even if it's not well understood broadly in society, it does
| seem like it would spread neighbor-to-neighbor on a local
| level. I don't get it.
| morsch wrote:
| I don't watch these kinds of videos, but from a multi hour
| interview with someone who grows food commercially in
| permaculture, it sounds like it takes a lot of time,
| patience, planning and knowledge.
| bilsbie wrote:
| Along this vein I'd be curious if we could grow mangroves on the
| pacific garbage patch?
|
| The shade and roots might even attract enough fish to provide the
| plants with fertilizer.
| changoplatanero wrote:
| You know that the pacific garbage patch is not a solid patch or
| floating garbage, right?
| esaym wrote:
| Uhh, in salt water???
| Jtsummers wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangrove
|
| Mangroves can handle salt water. The issue is that they
| aren't actually free-floating forests out in the ocean, which
| is what GP would need for their idea.
| bpodgursky wrote:
| Well and the patch is like 4 plastic particles per cubic
| meter.
| Jtsummers wrote:
| That too, but addressed by another response.
| [deleted]
| UberFly wrote:
| I've seen such photos before but I can never get over how those
| garbage beaches look.
| daveguy wrote:
| I think the point is that the garbage was already there. This
| is a significant improvement.
| UberFly wrote:
| Yea I get that part.
| [deleted]
| aaron695 wrote:
| gedy wrote:
| Encouraging, but also still struck and saddened by how filthy
| Manila Bay is.
|
| The amount of garbage in that one location alone makes things
| like banning disposable straws, etc seem pointless in comparison.
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