[HN Gopher] Frank Drake, astronomer famed for contributions to S...
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       Frank Drake, astronomer famed for contributions to SETI, has died
        
       Author : cratermoon
       Score  : 159 points
       Date   : 2022-09-02 16:48 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | timmg wrote:
       | I remember when I was pretty young someone gave me an article and
       | said that, "This scientist made an equation to show many alien
       | civilizations there are."
       | 
       | I was like: that's amazing! How could anyone figure that out?
       | Science is nuts!
       | 
       | Then I read the equation. I was both disappointed and completely
       | impressed. It didn't tell you how many aliens there are. It told
       | you how to estimate that number and what you'd need to know to
       | hone that estimate.
       | 
       | That, actually, had a pretty big influence on my through my eng
       | career.
        
       | bradneuberg wrote:
       | Sad to hear. Amazing person and contributor to the field of radio
       | SETI, hoping his family are doing ok during this tough time.
        
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       | ianai wrote:
       | His book is very approachable. It's wild, but apparently he just
       | started writing the Drake Equation out at a (the first?) SETI
       | discussion/meeting without much prior deliberation.
       | 
       | The world definitely needs more Frank Drakes. He will be missed.
        
       | abetusk wrote:
       | Inventor of the "Drake equation" [0].
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
        
         | exmadscientist wrote:
         | I just wish people would stop calling it a damn equation,
         | because it clearly isn't. It's the Drake Estimate.
         | 
         | But that ship has clearly sailed.
        
           | ceejayoz wrote:
           | It's an equation. The individual components of the equation
           | are speculative, and their values are estimates.
        
             | exmadscientist wrote:
             | There's unwritten fudge factors everywhere. That's not how
             | equations work. But it is how estimates work.
             | 
             | There's zero shame in calling a thing what it really is.
        
               | dakr wrote:
               | The fact that it's hard to know the inputs accurately and
               | precisely doesn't make this any less of an equation.
               | Given some inputs on one side, you get an output on the
               | other. You might as well call y = mx + b an estimate.
        
               | marginalia_nu wrote:
               | Well there's math, and then there's physics math. Physics
               | math is different. All the world is a frictionless plane,
               | and we are merely spheres of uniform mass and charge
               | density upon it.
               | 
               | You should see some of the calculus acrobatics they do in
               | plasma physics. It's absolutely bonkers.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | I'm sure he's much more known for this than for SETI
         | contributions.
        
           | capableweb wrote:
           | FWIW, I hadn't heard about Frank Drake before, nor of "Drake
           | equation", but I do know what SETI is since before.
        
       | pleb_nz wrote:
       | RIP
       | 
       | And just this morning, before I read this news, I have watched 2
       | videos on drake equation.
       | 
       | Trippy and sad
        
       | superb-owl wrote:
       | What strange timing--I was writing a bit about the Drake equation
       | this morning:
       | 
       | https://superbowl.substack.com/p/digging-into-the-drake-equa...
       | 
       | As an early teen I was fascinated by the fact that someone had
       | seriously attempted to quantify this. It made me wonder, what
       | _can't_ math do? Turns out, quite a bit. But it's a really fun
       | exercise.
        
       | devindotcom wrote:
       | RIP.
       | 
       | Some may see the Drake Equation as reductive, and that's kind of
       | the point. Its simplicity makes it compelling: presenting the
       | enormousness and diversity of the universe as a near infinitude
       | that seems incapable of supporting only one planet full of life.
       | It's also easily understood by anybody who can do basic math,
       | with a 30-second explanation. You can make anyone think and make
       | an informed guess on one of the most profound questions of all.
       | 
       | Here's hoping we prove his intuition right one day, I'm glad he
       | lived to see so many advances in astronomy and physics, it must
       | surely have felt like an unfolding of possibility to him.
        
       | ipnon wrote:
       | Drake said, "only by doing the best we can with the very best
       | that an era offers, do we find the way to do better in the
       | future."
       | 
       | Rest In Peace
        
       | kairozu wrote:
       | RIP. Somehow I still find this song in my head from time to time.
       | 
       | http://www.setileague.org/songbook/equation.htm
       | http://www.avsport.org/drseti/audio/equation.mp3
        
       | ctoth wrote:
       | My favorite Drake story is the time when they were just starting
       | SETI and thought they had found aliens at the second star they
       | pointed at. Seriously, this reads like an old SF short story.
       | Check it out.
       | 
       | http://www.bigear.org/vol1no1/ozma.htm
        
         | jamiek88 wrote:
         | What a delightful slice of history!
        
       | ProAm wrote:
       | The Drake equation and the Fermi paradox are extremely fun and
       | entertaining thought experiments.
        
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