[HN Gopher] High-dose Vitamin B6 reduces anxiety and strengthens...
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       High-dose Vitamin B6 reduces anxiety and strengthens visual
       surround suppression
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 61 points
       Date   : 2022-09-01 20:24 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | poglet wrote:
       | After doing a Google news search for "high dose vitamin b6" I
       | know now I'm going to have either less anxiety or major health
       | issues.
        
         | djmips wrote:
         | It gives a whole new meaning to "You can rest when you're dead"
        
       | basicplus2 wrote:
       | Beware Vitamin B6 Toxicity above 200mg per day
       | 
       | "However, none of the studies had sensory nerve damage at a daily
       | intake below 200 mg pyridoxine per day"
       | 
       | Vitamin B6 Toxicity Hemminger A, Wills BK.
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       | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554500/
        
       | lxe wrote:
       | The participants of study referenced here tool 100mg tablets
       | daily for 30-35 days. Before you start popping B6, keep in mind
       | that supratherapeutic doses of >500mg pyridoxine have been linked
       | to peripheral neuropathy and other CNS issues.
       | 
       | Furthermore, the whole subject of B6/B12 supplementation and
       | dosage is muddied by all sorts of facebook groups and self-
       | reported anecdotes as well.
       | 
       | I personally would stick to improving my diet rather then
       | experimenting with supplements.
        
       | kypro wrote:
       | Maybe worth noting there's different kinds of B6 - Pyridoxal 5
       | Phosphate and Pyridoxine Hydrochloride and that pyroxidine
       | hydrochloride was used here.
       | 
       | PLP has some interesting effects at higher doses such as lowering
       | prolactin levels and increasing dopamine, but can also be quite
       | toxic when taken at higher doses.
        
       | JamesBarney wrote:
       | There is also a supplement called emoxypine which is a b6
       | derivative which also is quite potent anxiolytic.
        
       | whiterock wrote:
       | The outcome is not very strong is it? I looked at the table where
       | they show the depression and anxiety scores. I mean sure I guess
       | 52 -> 47 matters statistically - but does it for an individual? I
       | doubt it. Also I'd be highly dubious of the opening statement
       | that almost everybody is ,,borderline deficient in vitamin B6"...
       | 
       | mhm and also quite funnily: ,, [...] were randomised to receive
       | either Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12, or placebo tablets. However, due
       | to technical problems that resulted in some missing data and also
       | because no single outcome measure was included in all phases of
       | data collection the number of participants completing each
       | outcome measure was in all cases less than the full sample size."
        
         | JamesBarney wrote:
         | That's about the same effect size as the better therapy
         | studies. And it's a lot cheaper than meeting with a counselor
         | once a month.
        
       | bluedino wrote:
       | Vitamin B stores seem to be a big trend here, popping up in malls
       | and such.
       | 
       | Surprised the FTC doesn't stop them. Making all kind of claims
       | etc.
        
       | candiddevmike wrote:
       | YMMV, Vitamin B6 does the opposite for me. Any large amounts of
       | it in vitamins gives me crazy anxiety and restlessness.
        
         | andybak wrote:
         | _Any_ vitamin?
         | 
         | Considering how diverse they are in mechanism and effect, that
         | seems like a rather broad statement.
        
           | astrange wrote:
           | Think you misread the comment!
        
             | andybak wrote:
             | Yes. I did.
             | 
             | Apologies.
        
           | MisterBastahrd wrote:
           | > Any large amounts of it in vitamins
           | 
           | it = B6
        
         | gautamdivgi wrote:
         | I would second that. I get dizzy and tingly all over. Weird
         | heartbeat mechanism, etc. I take vit-d and fish-oil supplements
         | but stay away from regular multivitamins. It just causes my
         | system to go all crazy on me.
        
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