[HN Gopher] XCode Cloud Subscriptions Now Available
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XCode Cloud Subscriptions Now Available
Author : math-dev
Score : 68 points
Date : 2022-08-30 21:27 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| Apocryphon wrote:
| Finally, the fruits of the Buddybuild acquisition(?)
| frizlab wrote:
| It's a small c in Xcode...
| akmarinov wrote:
| For comparison Bitrise charges 3 tokens per minute on an M1 mac
| and 10 000 tokens are $500. That gives you 55 hours.
| wetpaws wrote:
| Bitrise does a lot more than just iOS cicd
| alberth wrote:
| Dumb question: why does a _cloud_ offering require onprem macOS?
|
| Shouldn't folks on iOS at least be able to access XCode Cloud
| honkdaddy wrote:
| I can't think of a good reason Apple would want to support
| developers who want to publish in their (very) walled garden
| but aren't willing to purchase at least one macOS device. There
| are services which provide virtual Macs, this isn't meant to be
| one of them.
| makeitdouble wrote:
| Education perhaps. Kids in middle school or lower might get
| iPads and not laptops, and programming can be part of their
| curriculum.
| jbverschoor wrote:
| Because of licensing.
| derefr wrote:
| It's a CI system with XCode as its fat client. There's no XCode
| for iOS.
| MBCook wrote:
| Xcode Cloud is a CI/CD setup for complaining and signing Mac
| and iOS apps. It is not a web or remote development environment
| like some other companies offer.
|
| Because it can be triggered by pushes into git, you could make
| changes to existing code from an iPad or PC and get it built.
| But you can't (realistically) do anything that requires Xcode
| such as adding new things to your project or messing with xib
| files.
| keyle wrote:
| Cough cough, sarcastic old dev here "yeah, that's what XCode
| needed, cloud CI/CD".
| nikanj wrote:
| Does this mean one can reasonably develop ios apps without a mac?
| pooper wrote:
| Sadly, no.
|
| > Xcode Cloud is a continuous integration and delivery service
| built into Xcode and designed expressly for Apple developers.
| It accelerates the development and delivery of high-quality
| apps by bringing together cloud-based tools that help you build
| apps, run automated tests in parallel, deliver apps to testers,
| and view and manage user feedback.
|
| This requires xcode, which requires a Mac as far as I know.
| obenn wrote:
| You still need a Mac with Xcode
| data-ottawa wrote:
| No, this lets you do automated tests and builds in the cloud.
|
| You'll still need Xcode to create the project, sign it, manage
| entitlements, load to test flight, etc.
| MBCook wrote:
| Xcode cloud requires you let Apple handle code signing
| automatically so you don't have to do it locally, although
| obviously you still have to have a paid account. Additionally
| as others have mentioned this can push things to TestFlight
| for you.
| DelightOne wrote:
| > load to test flight
|
| The web page says it supports test flight.
| paxys wrote:
| This is just a CI/CD product. You still need a Mac and the
| Xcode desktop app.
| [deleted]
| candiddevmike wrote:
| Get a Mac Mini and use VNC along with a GitHub/GitLab runner.
| Works quite well!
| chrisseaton wrote:
| > without a mac
|
| > Get a Mac
| homarp wrote:
| see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32654493
|
| "[author] has been using Xcode Cloud to compile and deploy my
| rcmd app switcher (https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd) for the past few
| months, and it's been a great experience.
|
| I liked that with a single "git push" I could compile, archive,
| deploy to TestFlight, and send for beta review. I even pushed a
| fix from my iPhone using Working Copy one time while I was on a
| train.
|
| These are the pricing plans for those interested:
|
| - 25 compute hours/month: Free*
|
| - 100 compute hours/month: $49.99/month
|
| - 250 compute hours/month: $99.99/month
|
| - 1000 compute hours/month: $399.99/month
|
| * Free through December 2023, then $14.99/month if you choose to
| subscribe at that time. "
| m3kw9 wrote:
| 25$ or compute hours free a month, I wonder how much tests that
| is, and any overhead cpu costs?
| codazoda wrote:
| 3. Free through December 2023, then US$14.99 per month if you
| choose to subscribe at that time.
| jbverschoor wrote:
| The first steps to Apple's AWS competitor. Their multi billion
| contract with Amazon will end soon, so the timing makes perfect
| sense.
| jasoncartwright wrote:
| Is that true? Have they been investing the required billions
| (tens of billions?) in datacenter infrastructure across the
| globe to do this?
| [deleted]
| Aloha wrote:
| How does a CI/CD system lead to an AWS competitor?
| altairprime wrote:
| The pricing is in compute hours, which means that their app-
| integrated CI/CD offering directly competes with offerings
| that require you to purchase your own retail-rate AWS EC2 &co
| compute hours.
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