[HN Gopher] Alpaca - Stable Diffusion Plugin for Photoshop
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Alpaca - Stable Diffusion Plugin for Photoshop
Author : t0bia_s
Score : 66 points
Date : 2022-08-29 19:15 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| RunSet wrote:
| Gee, I always wanted to register for a product launch.
| marosgrego wrote:
| GIMP plugin when?
| lucidrains wrote:
| already done
| https://twitter.com/nousr_/status/1563912133120647168
| optimalsolver wrote:
| It's funny because art was the activity humans were supposed to
| be engaged in after AI took over the work we didn't want to do,
| but it looks like it will be one of the first things to fall to
| the machines.
| t0bia_s wrote:
| You confusing art with images. Art is more deep than just
| digital generated image.
|
| Do you thing that AI generated images will be bough by
| collectors or published in art galleries?
| m00dy wrote:
| why not ?
| t0bia_s wrote:
| Well... If you are AI, then be my guest =D
| m00dy wrote:
| I might be paying for an AI generated art. Just keep the
| seed for yourself, you will have a unique art for
| yourself :)
| dougabug wrote:
| It depends on who made it, and why.
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| One of the biggest categories of digital art at the moment is
| algorithmically generated art.
|
| Of course, the "artist" wrote the algorithm, but I can easily
| imagine an AI putting together something similar.
| nodogoto wrote:
| masswerk wrote:
| Get ready for all artwork being of one of a few standard
| styles.
| superzamp wrote:
| Well if you can't tell, does it matter?
| wds wrote:
| Not to give credence to this space, but NFT art shows
| presenting Pixel Chill Monkey #9491 made with a coked-out
| doll dress-up game is a seemingly much lower bar
| green_on_black wrote:
| I disagree. I believe that art is eternal, but we still fail to
| grasp what it means. I don't think art is limited to pretty
| pictures and poetic prose. For example, if a human laboriously
| produces a work that they could have simply asked an AI to
| produce, isn't that starkly superfluous? To me, a performance
| art.
| dougabug wrote:
| But graphics, design, and special effects were some of the
| first areas heavily influenced by digital technology, so it's
| not super surprising that AI is showing early signs of future
| impact in the visual arts.
|
| It's becoming pretty clear that some people are much better at
| harnessing these emerging tools than others. Some people are
| already billing themselves as "AI artists," and I predict that
| many will find success in this new art form.
| [deleted]
| t0bia_s wrote:
| "AI artist" probably wouldn't be hired for specific tasks.
| [deleted]
| bee_rider wrote:
| Painters had to change their business model when photography
| was invented, but they didn't vanish completely.
| awfulneutral wrote:
| But at least photography created new roles for photographers.
| AI art promises to replace many creative roles for humans
| entirely, without creating any new roles.
| Melatonic wrote:
| Not at all - this is just another tool that artists will use.
| awfulneutral wrote:
| You might be right (at least until the AI improves a bit),
| but even so it promises to make artists more productive to
| the point that we will need far fewer of them. Unless we are
| able to scale up the amount of art we need by a huge amount.
| t0bia_s wrote:
| Agree. For me, as not very skilled artist (but still able to
| make living by creating art) it opening new layer to creative
| process. I can spend more time by thinking about content than
| just drawing or spending hours for researching specific
| images.
| dvfjsdhgfv wrote:
| It's not that simple. The current generation wave of so called
| "AI tools" such as GPT- _, DALL-E and the rest generate
| fantastic results_ because* someone did the enormous work of
| scraping a huge amount of someone else's work (texts, images).
| Of course you'd argue humans do the same: they absorb a huge
| number of inputs and generate content based on that. However,
| there is something else in automated solutions like this one
| that places tools like Copilot on the verge of more or less
| sophisticated plagiarism. And when you look closer at the
| images, you discover oddities just like in the faces of AI-
| generated people.
|
| Real art, on the other hand, is all about innovation and
| exploration. That's one of the reasons there are fewer and
| fewer traditional paintings in modern art museums. The current
| generation of AI is still very much a copycat, not a creator. I
| believe this might change, but we'd need a complete paradigm
| shift for that - ML is almost useless as the core of such
| solution, as much as generative art algorithms.
| bovermyer wrote:
| Looking at this, I'm not sure what it does. Something with AI.
| The image makes me think it's maybe layering results from a
| DALL-E like AI?
| mpaepper wrote:
| Check here for details about stable diffusion:
| https://www.paepper.com/blog/posts/how-and-why-stable-diffus...
| ChildOfChaos wrote:
| Yes, Stable diffusion is an open source AI image generator that
| runs on your own hardware.
| Krasnol wrote:
| I wonder how long it will take to get those algorithms to
| generate hearable music.
| PankajGhosh wrote:
| Possible name collission. "alpaca" is a ycombinator backed
| startup: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/alpaca
| eis wrote:
| Possible name collision: "alpaca" is an animal:
| https://www.getalpaca.io/_next/static/media/logo.30fd61b8.pn...
| :)
| quantumduck wrote:
| It's also a popular meta-learning algorithm: ALPaCA:
| https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.08912
|
| Well no one cares unless one of the parties has enough money
| and interest to hire a lawyer.
| bee_rider wrote:
| I wonder if that actually is close enough to have a case.
| coolspot wrote:
| Any dictionary word is untrademarkable. You can use it, but
| you can't pevent others from using it as well.
| eis wrote:
| That is not true. Easiest example is Apple.
| coolspot wrote:
| You can find more companies with "Apple" in their names &
| logos here: https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/search
|
| https://www.quora.com/How-does-Apple-Computer-Inc-get-
| away-w...
| eis wrote:
| Your second link validates my statement. You can
| absolutely trademark generic terms. There are limitations
| though.
|
| Try to create a smartphone or computer company called
| Apple and see what'll happen. You can't trademark the
| word Apple for your apple farm because other apple farms
| must be allowed to use that word to describe their
| product.
|
| That other companies have Apple in their name is not
| surprising. A trademark is not universal. There are so
| called classes and when you apply for a trademark you
| have to specify which classes you want covered.
|
| Source: I went through this process and applied and was
| granted a trademark for my company. Other companies hold
| a trademark on the same term but in different classes.
| simonw wrote:
| There's a video demo of this Photoshop plugin here:
| https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...
| Escapado wrote:
| This is a smart move and goes to show people move so quick on
| this. I wonder how long before these models overtake stock image
| websites, get used in games or video production, generate T-shirt
| prints and whatever other usecase people can come up with.
|
| On that note: Iirc back when I learned about GANs, when they were
| still rather new there was a clear path towards improvements of
| them by making the model bigger and feed it _much_ more high
| quality training data. When I look at the outputs of stable
| diffusion or Dall-E there are still often visible artifacts and
| most prominently faces are often weird. Is there a clear path
| towards improvement here aswell or are we hitting a wall with the
| "just more" paradigm somewhen?
| in3d wrote:
| Some Stable Diffusion repos are already using an additional
| specialized model that fixes faces.
| dougabug wrote:
| GANs have a key (learned) loss called a discriminator which
| tells it whether or not the generated output looks real or not.
| GANs took many years of research to get to the point where they
| could get to the point where they could generate realistic,
| full sized images. Progress in diffusion models has been much
| faster.
|
| But you can add additional guidance to diffusion models, for
| instance, (possibly pre-trained) discriminative models which
| detect if certain objects classes such as faces look abnormal
| or malformed. We're still quite early in the evolution of this
| family of models.
| bee_rider wrote:
| When my friends and I play D&D, usually the host will quickly
| sketch maps on the fly (just, like, a floorplan or something).
| This tool seems like 1-2 iterations off from being perfect for
| that sort of thing.
| tomalaci wrote:
| I knew that eventually Photoshop would get some plugins utilizing
| AI image generation but I never expected it to happen this quick.
| From a brief glance at the demo (see reddit link from simonw) it
| seems to be of decent quality as well.
|
| According to the reddit comment by alpacaAI the plugin uses
| cloud/hosted solution, however [1]. Locally-powered generation to
| be added as a feature later it seems.
|
| [1]
| https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...
|
| Still, pretty amazing (or terrifying for some) at how quickly we
| are advancing with this diffusion-based tech. I wonder what is
| going to be the next big AI method for creative-work generation?
| t0bia_s wrote:
| Combining Human skill and AI generative power
|
| Register for the launch of the Photoshop(tm) plugin private beta
| (More ways to interact with alpaca in the future).
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