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Lielow: Playable chess-like game that uses only checkers
Author : amichail
Score : 36 points
Date : 2022-08-28 13:46 UTC (1 days ago)
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| Taikonerd wrote:
| Cool! Speaking of "complex games that can be played with only
| checkers," I want to give a shout-out to Breakthrough: [0]
|
| All your pieces are the same, and move sort of like pawns in
| chess. (Slightly different.) The first player to move a piece all
| the way across the board wins.
|
| [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_(board_game)
| pavon wrote:
| How many pieces do you typically need to play this game? The
| rules place no explicit limit in the size of the stack, although
| if a stack gets to be 8 pieces high, then it can't do anything
| other than leave the board, which puts an obvious theoretical
| maximum at no more than 64 pieces per side (4 checkers sets). I
| wouldn't be surprised if the actual theoretical maximum is lower
| than that.
| IIAOPSW wrote:
| Checkers is a playable chess-like game that uses only checkers.
| clintonc wrote:
| > Note: In this implementation, jumping off the board is only
| possible if the stack can reach exactly 1 row or column beyond
| the perimeter. But it seems to always be the case that it is
| possible to jump off the board when a stack is big enough. Please
| let Michael know if you encounter a scenario where a piece is
| stuck. This should not be allowed according to the rules of the
| game.
|
| True. Suppose you moved from A to B, and your stack just became 8
| tall. Then you must have jumped from one edge of the board to the
| other; if you jump back the way you came, you'll land on the
| "margin" outside of the board. Also, there are no other legal
| moves besides jumping onto the margin; in particular, you can
| never become 9 tall.
|
| Repeat for smaller heights: If you are height N, but no other
| moves land on the board, then moving back in the direction the
| piece last came from will put it on the margin.
| civilian wrote:
| It's not loading for me :-/ the game sounds interesting from the
| rules listed. details.php?keyword=Lielow:1333
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| 'onclick') at addPopups
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| bravura wrote:
| What does "Passing is not allowed." mean?
| failrate wrote:
| You have to take your turn.
| mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote:
| I love chess/checkers variants.
|
| Here's a fun one that was invented(though probably not the first)
| by someone at my chess club. They called it ludo chess. Normal
| chess rules, except: two pieces can stack on the same square, and
| subsequently move together with the combined power of both
| pieces. You can also just move one of them, splitting the stack.
|
| We've had a lot of fun playing this at our club over a few beers.
| One of my favourite strategies is sticking your king on a knight
| so it can jump out of mating nets. And carrying a pawn with your
| rook to create a dangerous passed pawn within a couple moves.
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| If you have a pawn stacked on another piece, and you use the
| other piece's move to get to the back row, does the pawn
| promote, or do you have to have the pawn step to the back row
| on its own power? The former seems like a recipe for
| exceedingly fast promotion in the mid-to-end game.
| mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote:
| It's been a while but iirc the latter would be the case. The
| pawn has to do the move itself.
| schoen wrote:
| So you could get a pawn promotion using a queen in three
| moves (assuming there's an empty space on the rear rank and
| an open path to reach it!), instead of two. (One to combine
| the queen and pawn, one to move both pieces to the
| penultimate rank, and one pawn move to achieve the
| promotion.)
| fsiefken wrote:
| hi mtlmtlmtlmtl, then you might also like dameo, emergo and
| other abstract games by designer christian freeling. it's
| playable on the dagaz web engine and stephen tavener's aiai.
|
| https://www.mindsports.nl/index.php/dagaz/767-dameo
|
| https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24698/dameo/forums/0
|
| He has a fascinating page on the evolution of draughts variants
| https://www.mindsports.nl/index.php/on-the-evolution-of-drau...
|
| There's also an interesting playable chess variant called
| king's guard (or the more diverging chad and shakti) if you are
| bored of the lichess variants (i like crazyhouse or king of the
| hill).
| failrate wrote:
| I have seen a commercially produced variant of this with pieces
| that can be clasped together.
| fsiefken wrote:
| hi failrate, you might have seen paco sako chess, but that
| seems to be a joining of black and white instead of two black
| or two white pieces (the latter being a bit similar to the
| musquito mechanism in hive, a hexagonal chess like game).
|
| https://www.sasktoday.ca/central/opinion/the-meeple-guild-
| ne...
| failrate wrote:
| I believe you are correct. I wonder if you could play both
| games with the same set.
| retzkek wrote:
| That was probably Paco Sako, aka Peace Chess. Only similar
| insofar as two pieces can share a space, otherwise quite
| different - there's no captures, rather pieces embrace, with
| the goal to embrace the opponent's king.
|
| https://pacosako.com/en
| SamBam wrote:
| Sounds interesting, although the initial state doesn't seem to be
| described by the rules. How many stacks do you start with? Can
| you gain new stacks?
| shagie wrote:
| The initial state is 8 checkers in the pawn position of a chess
| board.
|
| You cannot gain additional stacks.
|
| (Some additional info on the game and its mechanics :
| https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2720024/lielow-wartime-tale...
| )
| shagie wrote:
| The BGG entry for the game -
| https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/349408/lielow
| cestith wrote:
| See also:
|
| - https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/349408/lielow
|
| - https://github.com/Quuxplusone/Lielow. (which includes a chance
| to play against AI)
|
| - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YccEDjAe7vE (video by Alek
| Erickson, presumably the cocreator)
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