[HN Gopher] Hammer and Tickle (2006)
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Hammer and Tickle (2006)
Author : homarp
Score : 39 points
Date : 2022-08-28 14:50 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| blobby14 wrote:
| A Russian and an American get on a plane in Moscow and get to
| talking. The Russian says he works for the Kremlin and he's on
| his way to go learn American propaganda techniques.
|
| "What American propaganda techniques?" asks the American.
|
| "Exactly," the Russian replies.
| cainxinth wrote:
| I collect documentary films. "Hammer & Tickle" (2007) is one of
| my white whales. Been trying to track it down for years without
| success. Anyone know where a copy can be bought or downloaded?
| [deleted]
| vgel wrote:
| An engineer is messaging with his boss on Slack after hours. The
| boss says "My brother is in the hospital and needs money for his
| surgery!" The engineer asks "What are you gonna do?" and the boss
| responds "Well, he is family..." The engineer responds "You're
| gonna make him come in on weekends??"
| VictorPath wrote:
| > Why such a long queue?"..."Well," sighs Marx, "Sometimes we're
| out of oil, sometimes we don't have
|
| I've been immersed in shortages for the past two years (try to go
| buy a car for MSRP), why some UK paper is writing about some far
| away, long ago shortage I don't know (well actually I do know).
| sefrost wrote:
| The article was published in 2006.
| logical_ferry wrote:
| There are a few differences between you having to wait and a
| Soviet having to wait for a car multiple years: * You most
| probably already have a car and just want a newer model. A
| Soviet citizen just had a bike. * Soviet citizen had one or two
| models they could choose from. You have a plethora, some of
| which are probably more readily available than others.
|
| Don't compare UK shortages with what the Eastern Bloc went
| through. They had people going to surgery without anesthesia.
| You'll manage with your existing car for a bit more.
| thriftwy wrote:
| The difference is mostly quantitative. In USSR you could buy
| a car if you were willing to pay over MSRP (which was
| mandatory rather than recommended). Simply buy a new car
| used. Reselling your car immediately after purchase for a
| profit was a thing.
|
| Some people (occupations such as arctic coal miner) had
| financial means to do so easily. Other people (notably,
| engineers on non-management positions like most of HN readers
| today) would never realistically afford one.
|
| The choice was indeed very limited. But again, it is mostly a
| quantitative difference.
| dullcrisp wrote:
| You know they say, quantity has a quality of its own
| davidgerard wrote:
| The jokes translate just fine.
|
| .
|
| Under Brexit, every family gets what they need. That's why
| Tesco puts a sign up that says "nobody needs groceries today."
|
| .
|
| What did Great Britain use to light its homes with before using
| candles?
|
| Electricity.
|
| .
|
| Q: Why is Brexit superior to Europe?
|
| A: Because it heroically overcomes problems that do not exist
| if we'd stayed in.
|
| .
|
| At a party meeting, a Conservative party officer is drilling a
| local worker. He asks him: "Fellow Briton, if you had two
| houses, would you give one to the Conservative Party?"
|
| The worker responds "Yes, definitely, fellow Briton, I would
| give one of my houses to the party!"
|
| Then he asks "Fellow Briton, if you had two cars, would you
| give one to the party?"
|
| Again, the worker says, "Yes, I would give one of my cars to
| the party!"
|
| Finally, the officer asks, "If you had two shirts, would you
| give one to the party?"
|
| "No!"
|
| The officer asks "But why? Why won't you give one of your
| shirts to the party?"
|
| The worker says: "Because I HAVE two shirts!"
|
| .
|
| A schoolboy wrote in his weekly essay: "My cat just had seven
| kittens. They're all Brexiters."
|
| The following week, the boy wrote: "my cat's kittens are all
| Remainers."
|
| The teacher called him up and asked him to explain the sudden
| change. "Last week, you said they were all Brexiters!"
|
| The boy nodded. "They were, but this week they all opened their
| eyes."
|
| .
|
| A man walks into Sainsbury's. He asks the shop assistant, "You
| don't have any meat?" The assistant says, "No, here we don't
| have any fish. The counter that doesn't have any meat is across
| the store."
|
| .
|
| A European fairy tale begins, "Once upon a time, there was...."
| A Brexit fairy tale begins, "Once we're through all of this,
| there will be...."
|
| .
|
| Great Britain is the most progressive country in the world.
| Life was already better yesterday than it's going to be
| tomorrow.
|
| .
| gtsop wrote:
| Why the downvotes I wonder? Ok let me try using something the
| soviets didn't have: gpu shortages!
| thriftwy wrote:
| Car market just shows you how quickly the consumer experience
| degrades in light of shortages.
|
| Where you were previously offered bonuses and free stuff, now
| they would be insincere about what's in stock, how many does is
| actually cost, distribute the best stuff cost-wise among inner
| circle, try to shave a random extra amount of money from you.
|
| As you can see you don't need any kind of especially corrupt
| souls once incentives are wrong.
| homarp wrote:
| >[article author] also came across a wonderfully overwritten PhD
| thesis by the Stanford anthropologist Seth Benedict Graham: A
| Cultural Analysis of the Russo-Soviet Anekdot (anekdot is the
| Russian word for a political joke).
|
| https://d-scholarship.pitt.edu/9560/1/grahamsethb_etd2003.pd...
| gukov wrote:
| An anekdot doesn't have to be political. Actually, most of the
| time it isn't.
| dvh wrote:
| Russian and Ukrainian are walking on the street and they both
| spot $100 bill on the sidewalk. Russian grabs it and says "Let's
| split like brothers!". And Ukrainian says: "No! Let's split
| 50:50"
| thriftwy wrote:
| That probably refers to the fact that poopulation-wise,
| Belarussians, Ukrainians and Russians are split like Vanyar-
| Noldor-Teleri (and have physical appearance differencies not
| unlike those three)
| thriftwy wrote:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_jokes has lots of
| examples.
| computator wrote:
| One more classic story in the same category of humour:
|
| Some poor downtrodden men in Leningrad during the height of the
| Cold War have been hearing about all the wonderful jobs, weather,
| and food in Siberia. They are eager to move there but they are
| wary that it might be a trick, and that once there they won't be
| allowed to leave. They agree that one of them should go first and
| write a letter concealing a secret message back to his comrades
| in Leningrad. If the letter is written in black ink, then life in
| Siberia is excellent and the others should come. But if it's
| written in red ink, then what they've been told is all lies.
|
| Soon they get a letter from the comrade who volunteered to be the
| first to go to Siberia. It's in black ink. They eagerly read his
| glowing report about life in Siberia, the good jobs, comfortable
| weather, and bountiful food. Their friend finishes his letter by
| mentioning that there's just one thing he hasn't been able to
| find: red ink.
| carapace wrote:
| I heard one that was circulating _after_ the fall, "Everything
| they told us about Communism was a lie, but everything they told
| us about Capitalism was true."
|
| (Ouch!)
| nopenopenopeno wrote:
| It cannot be overstated how valuable it is to read Karl Marx's
| later work. Among so many other things, he condemned
| revolutionary efforts in Russia because he viewed capitalism as
| a necessary stage of progression.
| [deleted]
| gtsop wrote:
| Wow that is some great resource you have read there. Since
| Marx died in 1883 and the Russian revolution was around 1917,
| this post-death condemnation is a must read. What other
| things he wrote after dying?
| wging wrote:
| I believe "revolutionary efforts in Russia" above means
| attempts to bring about a revolution; these spanned a
| period of many decades before 1917.
| [deleted]
| motohagiography wrote:
| Some of these are very funny, but they also actively murdered
| tens of millions of civilians and we act like it was some kind of
| forgivable quirky accident from well intentioned incompetence. I
| like dark humour as much as anyone, but if these jokes become
| relevant again, it's worth noting they were from a culture of
| demoralized and broken people. Not to be a buzzkill, but never
| forget that these people are always with us, making their way
| through institutions, and waiting for their chance to do it
| again. When this stuff becomes funny because it's close to home,
| I'd say it's time to seriously consider what is important and
| necessary to prevent it from happening again.
| thriftwy wrote:
| > they also actively murdered tens of millions of civilians
|
| Let's punish the communism survivors for all the bad things
| that happened to them.
|
| That's what got us all into the current rabbit hole.
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