[HN Gopher] The GPU shortage is over. The GPU surplus has arrived
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       The GPU shortage is over. The GPU surplus has arrived
        
       Author : stalfosknight
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2022-08-26 19:06 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | yuan43 wrote:
       | > Nvidia CFO Colette Kress insisted that the company is "unable
       | to accurately quantify the extent to which reduced crypto mining
       | contributed to the decline in gaming demand," notably because
       | Nvidia has gotten into trouble with the SEC for obscuring the
       | number of GPUs it was selling to cryptocurrency miners in the
       | past.
       | 
       | This sentence is confusing. Is "because" the right word here? If
       | Nvidia got into trouble for obscuring the number of GPUs used in
       | mining, wouldn't that motivate the company to get a handle on
       | this number as part of its obligation to disclose risks to
       | shareholders? Especially because Ethereum is about to render most
       | mining rigs useless with the upcoming "merge"?
        
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         | wmf wrote:
         | Or it would motivate them to simply refuse to comment so they
         | can't be accused of lying.
        
       | smoldesu wrote:
       | The stage is set for the AI Golden Age?
        
         | freeqaz wrote:
         | With those recent weights leaking for the Standard Diffusion
         | model, maybe there is a chance that we see some really cool
         | startups spinning up!
        
           | KaoruAoiShiho wrote:
           | Is there a link I can read about weights leaking for the
           | Standard Diffusion model?
        
             | homarp wrote:
             | you can use the official weights:
             | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32555028
             | 
             | if you really want them: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDif
             | fusion/comments/wqyu5b/com...
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | haunter wrote:
       | Sorry I'm not buying into this. Unless you can show me where I
       | can buy an RTX 3070 for $350 cause that's how much I paid for my
       | GTX 1070 7 months after the release (and that was brand new not
       | second hand market)
        
         | teaearlgraycold wrote:
         | I've heard tell of $999 3080 Tis and $1199 3090 Tis
        
           | homarp wrote:
           | https://www.amazon.com/3080Ti/dp/B0979GYMHP/ --> 899
           | 
           | https://www.amazon.com/3090Ti/dp/B09R9G57GK --> 1149
        
         | Gravyness wrote:
         | Adjusted for inflation?
        
           | haunter wrote:
           | That would be $420-ish today which still a far cry compared
           | to the current prices
        
         | adamrezich wrote:
         | hear hear, my desktop died a few months back and I keep waiting
         | for exactly this to build a new one. it always seems like it's
         | going to be right around the corner but still, no such luck...
        
           | adhesive_wombat wrote:
           | If you're short a graphics card, why do you need to build an
           | entirely new desktop? Unless there was a fire, flood or
           | catastrophic PSU failure that took out everything, in which
           | case, Rust In Pieces (and also insurance or warranty?)
        
             | adamrezich wrote:
             | an ancient power cord that I've had since the first desktop
             | I built--which I loved because it had a female connector on
             | the back of the male connector, so you could plug a tower
             | and monitor into the same outlet--finally bit the dust, the
             | ground snapped off and I'm assuming the whole thing is
             | fried. I'm using my fiancee's laptop in the interim but I
             | was overdue for a whole new PC anyway--the GTX 980 TI
             | wasn't quite cutting it anymore anyway
        
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               | Vecr wrote:
               | Can't you replace the power cord? It's either a standard
               | component, or something that's a very simple electrical
               | repair job to fix.
        
               | adamrezich wrote:
               | yeah I have many spares, but this seems to have killed at
               | least my PSU, possibly also my motherboard, and I'm not
               | really in the mood to trial-and-error what's broken and
               | what isn't lol
        
       | donmcronald wrote:
       | > To deal with this, according to Huang, Nvidia will reduce the
       | number of GPUs it sells to manufacturers of graphics cards and
       | laptops so that those manufacturers can clear out their existing
       | inventory.
       | 
       | So what happens to the abundance of cards? They have to sell them
       | sometime, don't they? Will they sell those to integrators and
       | other B2B partners as a tactic to keep the supply for gamers
       | restricted in an effort to keep the high MSRPs?
       | 
       | In 2017 it was practical to get an entry-mid (GTX 1060, RX 480)
       | level GPU for <$200 USD. Now the MSRPs for similar cards are a
       | solid 50% more and the gains from each generation haven't been
       | that significant.
       | 
       | I think the long term strategy is to price GPUs so ridiculously
       | that services like GeForce Now for $200 per year start to look
       | like a good deal. If Intel ARC wasn't around I'm convinced we'd
       | see reductions in supply, increases in prices, and a bigger push
       | for game streaming.
       | 
       | It wouldn't even surprise me to see AMD and Intel get into game
       | streaming deals and for the whole industry to trend in that
       | direction.
        
       | dixie_land wrote:
       | The 30xx GPU surplus has arrived. The 40xx GPU shortage is just
       | around the corner.
        
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