[HN Gopher] EU endorses right to repair as a circular economy es...
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EU endorses right to repair as a circular economy essential
Author : mrzool
Score : 36 points
Date : 2022-08-13 18:20 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| scarface74 wrote:
| Yes because the "right to repair" your phone is important even
| when manufacturers of most Android phones don't bother about
| supporting them with operating system upgrades or security
| upgrades for more than two years if at all.
| zamalek wrote:
| That would presumably be part of right to repair.
| scarface74 wrote:
| So they are going to force all Android OEMs to keep their
| phones updated? Will they get updates as long as iOS? An
| iPhone 6S from 2015 can still run the latest OS. Apple
| released a security patch within the last year for phones
| back to the 2013 iPhone 5s.
|
| Going to an Apple store or authorized dealer isn't as big of
| a deal to get a $69 battery replacement as it is to ask an
| Android user to hunt the internet to hopefully find a
| community supported Android variant that still supports their
| phone and still not have access to Google Play Services .
| CommanderData wrote:
| Probably not but it's speculation at the moment. Maybe
| support for open source firmware versions allowing the user
| to switch should they need to. In terms of drivers these
| could be opened but that'd require a huge amount of change
| from chip manufacturers.
| scarface74 wrote:
| So yeah, good luck with getting Qualcomm and the other
| chipset manufacturers to open source their drivers and
| then depending on volunteers to support your phone.
|
| Even Google once had to drop support for some Nexus
| devices because it couldn't convince chipset makers to
| support their latest OS on the phone.
| public_defender wrote:
| What's important here is that right to repair might require an
| unlockable bootloader so you can install something that does
| get updates instead of relying on your crappy phone
| manufacturer's planned obsolescence timeline.
| scarface74 wrote:
| Yes because most users want to depend on a third party to
| support their phones and not have access to updated Google
| Play Services.
| _aavaa_ wrote:
| - A custom rom can still get updated google play services.
|
| - most users currently don't get support, so idk what
| you're arguing for here
|
| - you already have to rely on countless 3rd parties in
| order to use your phone
| scarface74 wrote:
| Most _Android_ users don't get support. _iOS_ users can
| just go to Settings and get official updates from Apple
| without trawling the internet hoping some volunteers
| decided to support their phone.
| _aavaa_ wrote:
| Until apple decides to no longer update their phone. And
| then they're in an even worse position.
|
| So if that is cause it's just an old device and new
| feature don't have what they need. But others is a
| decision they make.
|
| Look at the recent redesign of the Reminders app, the
| fact that the new and old version are incompatible is not
| because of hardware. Nor is their choice to not backport
| it.
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