[HN Gopher] Intel shares 48 benchmarks to show its Arc A750 can ...
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Intel shares 48 benchmarks to show its Arc A750 can compete with an
RTX 3060
Author : CharlesW
Score : 20 points
Date : 2022-08-11 15:01 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| tpmx wrote:
| No price yet. I hope that Intel for once gives it a good run
| (like 6-8 years); they seem to always launch new product lines
| that go nowhere and are cancelled a few years later.
|
| This market needs a third player.
| Avlin67 wrote:
| 2 years more trying to sell a product still not available...
| Avlin67 wrote:
| Raja Koduri is the best
| belval wrote:
| This really is a bad product launch. From the bad drivers that
| just don't work/crash your PC to the launch of the A380 ("eSport
| GPU") in China first and the slipping deadlines that are clearly
| set to make investors happy with no regard for the actual
| product.
|
| I have Intel stock, I want to like the ARC GPUs, but this is
| getting pathetic as they seem dead set on paper launching these 5
| times before actually letting people give them money for it.
| bilegeek wrote:
| I'm not a fan of Intel, but honestly this was pretty well
| expected of them, the delays and driver issues.
|
| And yes I know it's marketing, but if what they say in their
| LTT[1] video is true, then GPU driver optimizations are
| apparently a titanically tedious clustertruck, which...
| honestly, considering all the weird API's and graphical
| schenanigans of games past, I concur.
|
| I think if they didn't release now, even with all the bugs,
| they were never going to. If it actually makes a profit,
| they'll finally have in incentive to invest enough that it even
| COULD catch up.
|
| [1]https://youtu.be/45n5pnEyw9o
| tpmx wrote:
| IDK; I think they just need to abandon their core principles
| of only persuing something new for 18 months max. They do
| have the capital. FFS.
| bilegeek wrote:
| No company can change like that without being entirely
| gutted and remade.
|
| ...though they can have splitoff "cells", like the 5150
| team or Xerox PARC. I can't tell from here, but given
| Intel's waffling in the past, maybe this team is a cell.
| tpmx wrote:
| _maybe this team is a cell_
|
| let's hope so!
| Sakos wrote:
| NVidia and AMD drivers are 20+ years of piling hacks upon
| hacks just to make sure games run properly and a paper over
| obscure bugs. It's gonna take time for Intel to catch up.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| It's in line with what I was expected. There was no way in hell
| Intel could leapfrog Ngridia and AMD Radeon on its first try.
| People expecting otherwise were dreaming. It was just not gonna
| happen.
|
| Even those two GPU giants had shipped massive flops throughout
| their lives (Ngridia with the FX 5000 series and AMD more often
| and more recently, ironically also unde Raja Kaduri) but they
| also had decades of experience to refine their development and
| testing processes and buff out any issues before release,
| iteration after iteration. Intel is relatively new to this, of
| course they were gonna fumble.
|
| I hope they can suck up this failure and come back swinging
| with the next gen. Consumers and gamers could really use a
| third player. GPUs are now costing way more than entire gaming
| consoles.
| jacooper wrote:
| Friendly note, you can still edit the typos in your comment.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| Which typos? Nvidia wordplay on greed was intentional as it
| reflects their anti consumer attitude.
| NBJack wrote:
| It doesn't come through well, and it is phonetically
| confusing (perhaps doubly so for those with English as a
| second language). In an age of mobile touchscreen
| keyboards, it just looks like a bad autocorrect.
| bilegeek wrote:
| It would have worked better if it was something more
| blatant, like "Ngreedia".
| bravetraveler wrote:
| Agreed, I assumed they had some DC product relating to
| grids or something
| nerpderp82 wrote:
| Is Intel supporting CUDA/PTX? It will only ever be a consumer GPU
| if not. Ryzen is building Radeon cores into EVERY new Ryzen 7000
| part and with CPUs getting HBM, the need for a discrete GPU that
| just does graphics isn't necessary for the vast number of
| applications.
| touisteur wrote:
| Well, no. They're all in OneAPI, and DPC++/SYCL, which if they
| manage to make it not suck too much, may be far better to use
| and evolve than OpenCL. Yeah you have to port most stuff, but
| BLAS/mkl and onednn/openvino are getting (slowly) there. That's
| the first steps and with that they get some hpc or machine
| learning creds.
|
| I really wish they'd focus for good on making their sw stack
| better, debuggable, tooled and far more optimized. No more
| rebranding, cryptic error messages, outdated docs, hard to
| install/dev/profile stuff, please.
| genpfault wrote:
| As always, Newegg link or it doesn't exist :)
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