[HN Gopher] Spaced Repetition for Mathematics
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       Spaced Repetition for Mathematics
        
       Author : mkl
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2022-08-08 20:40 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | ksd482 wrote:
       | The "mochi cards" link leads to Anki. But I think this is the one
       | the author is talking about: https://mochi.cards/
        
       | e_joules wrote:
       | Intuitively I do not think this would work. Well, I mean it
       | depends on what you are doing. For graduate oral exams it might
       | be a good way to prepare.
       | 
       | But if you want to get dexterity in some field, i.e. being able
       | to actual solve problems, I think it would not work so well. I
       | think there is a difference in how the brain stores and recalls
       | information in this case. If you learn a definition by heart or
       | learn a proof technique by heart, you would be able to recall it
       | perfectly when asked directly for it. However, I suspect that
       | when you would be actually solving a problem and you would need
       | to recall this information your brain would not be able to make
       | the connection.
       | 
       | That is why in mathematics one is usually required to solve a lot
       | of problems and why studying the theory by heart does not help
       | much. When you do a lot of textbook problems you brain starts
       | making connections between the chucks of proof techniques and the
       | chunks of definitions and the chunks of whatever features your
       | textbook problems have. Those connections are the most important
       | part of learning mathematics and you would not get them by simply
       | learning facts.
       | 
       | Basically, to say it in another way, you would learn the theory,
       | but you would not learn the problem solving associated with this
       | theory.
       | 
       | Source: I studied mathematics, the wrong way for many years.
       | 
       | EDIT: The most bitter experience I had studying mathematics. It
       | was the first year of my graduate studies and I took an undergrad
       | class in Graph Theory as my introduction to discrete mathematics.
       | Since I was now a graduate student I decided to approach the
       | class in the graduate student way. That means I focused really
       | hard on learning the theory and learned all the proofs and all
       | the proof techniques that we went through. And that was very fun
       | because the proofs in Graph Theory tend to be very elegant. And I
       | fell in love with the field. And then came the exam and I was
       | feeling really good about all of this, because for maybe the
       | first time in my life I had learned 105% of the theory required
       | for the exam. That was the worst grade I got in my whole
       | mathematics studying career. The problems on the exam were much
       | simpler than any example or theorem encountered during class, but
       | I just could not make the connections between the proof
       | techniques that I had memorized and what I was looking at on my
       | exam paper. I retook the exam three years later (it had no
       | influence on my grade at this point), with very little
       | preparation, but the preparation was 100% in solving exam type
       | problems. I could maybe recall 60% of the theory and proof
       | techniques. I got top grade.
        
         | yCombLinks wrote:
         | I think it's a good tool for quick access to many useful tools
         | in a toolkit. Yes, you need to know how to apply the tools, but
         | quickly being able to manipulate a problem into several other
         | forms makes lots of problems much easier.
        
         | spekcular wrote:
         | I agree with the claim that problem solving is essential to
         | learning mathematics. And I have had the exact same experience
         | where I did well on math exams by ignoring most of the theory
         | and proofs of main results, and focusing solely on examples and
         | problem solving.
         | 
         | However, I think straight-up memorizing definitions and theorem
         | statements is really useful for problem-solving/exam prep, just
         | so they're at your fingertips. There's no way you're passing a
         | real analysis exam if you can't regurgitate the epsilon-delta
         | definition of a limit in your sleep.
         | 
         | What seems to occur (at least for me) is that you naturally
         | memorize all of these things in a somewhat inefficient fashion
         | by doing problems. If the concept gets used in enough problems,
         | it slowly burrows its way into your memory - and this is a very
         | durable kind of memory, as you point out. But I do think for
         | things like graduate school qualifying exams you can "juice"
         | the process by explicitly memorizing core material.
         | 
         | Probably it's not as useful for doing research, though.
        
       | bitlax wrote:
       | "In order to be successful as a mathematician, you must commit to
       | memory all definitions and statements of theorems, for these are
       | the tools by which you can construct valid mathematical
       | arguments. Of course, memorization is not always fun, but
       | sometimes it is just simply required." -Steven Roman, Abstract
       | Algebra: A Comprehensive Introduction, Volume 1: Linear Algebra
        
       | rahimnathwani wrote:
       | In the 'conditions for theorems' section, I wonder whether it
       | would be easier (and just as effective) to put the whole theorem
       | (including conditions) in at once, and then use cloze deletion to
       | get tested on different parts.
        
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