[HN Gopher] A secret language of cells? New cell computations un...
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       A secret language of cells? New cell computations uncovered
        
       Author : andrewfromx
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2022-08-08 16:42 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | andrewfromx wrote:
       | Disclaimer - you have to believe in the multiverse or multi
       | dimensions for this comments but...
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       | This is the transcript of the talk I heard that told me about
       | Blue Brain:
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       | "It's called the Blue Brain project in Switzerland. They have
       | combined many different types of technologies and what they have
       | done is they have essentially created a type of MRI that can scan
       | the entire brain. All of the intricate structures of the brain
       | itself and what they have discovered is that some of us and have
       | in our brains fourth, fifth, sixth dimensional structures
       | already. There are other people that have seven, eight, nine
       | dimensional structures in their brain. You're a third density
       | physicality and yet in your brain you have multiple dimensional
       | structures!"
       | 
       | I always come back to the book
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland and try and grok that hey,
       | maybe dark matter we observe here in 3d is just stuff from these
       | weird other directions a flatlander wouldn't understand.
        
         | canadiantim wrote:
         | Any chance you have any links to the talk you heard with the
         | above transcript? Or any other links for further information?
         | 
         | Really interesting quote, would love to know more. Thank you.
         | 
         | Edit: I did some google-fu and found some interesting/relevant
         | links:
         | 
         | https://www.sciencealert.com/science-discovers-human-brain-w...
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         | https://www.wired.com/story/the-mind-boggling-math-that-mayb...
        
           | andrewfromx wrote:
           | oh sure https://youtu.be/b4cGFVjtq-M?t=361 at the 6:00 mark.
           | Fair warning everyone before you downvote, it's Alex Collier.
           | Just take everything he's saying as satire if that helps.
        
             | canadiantim wrote:
             | Awesome, thanks! Appreciate you sharing the link despite
             | the almost certain downvotes you'll get. Never heard of
             | Alex Collier before.
             | 
             | If I may, as a thanks I'd pass along the author Samael Aun
             | Weor which maybe you find some resonance with. Again to
             | anyone else reading take everything he says as satire if
             | that helps.
        
         | kahrl wrote:
         | What the what?
         | 
         | You don't have to believe in the multiverse because the
         | dimensions they are referring to are not physical dimensions.
         | They are mathematically orthogonal spaces upon which brain
         | structures operate.
        
         | achr2 wrote:
         | They are not referring to the same kind of physical (or even
         | Euclidean) dimensions you are inferring. They are talking about
         | connectivity and vectors.
        
         | whimsicalism wrote:
         | It's interesting how physics lends itself to lay
         | misunderstandings (like the parent comment) more than any other
         | field of study, ie. chemistry.
        
         | latenightcoding wrote:
         | multiple dimensions != multiple universes
        
           | jonnycomputer wrote:
           | always been a many universes 1 dimension kind of guy.
        
         | zasdffaa wrote:
         | I'll bet if this was an accurate quote, what was being said is
         | technically correct but far less mind-blowing than as it was
         | presented.
        
       | daoist_shaman wrote:
       | I did an assignment on the Blue Brain Project once. It's an
       | incredibly complex project with lofty ambitions.
       | 
       | One thing that blew my mind was how limited they were by modern
       | storage technology. Storing high-fidelity neuronal cross-section
       | images consumed more space than what was available at the time.
       | Each scan was crazy massive, something like a petabyte or an
       | exabyte.
       | 
       | To store the entire human brain in this fashion would consume
       | more storage space than that which exists on Earth.
        
         | robertk wrote:
         | Can they trade off storage for compute by applying ML based
         | compression JIT?
        
           | bsedlm wrote:
           | probably not cuz I'd imagine they want lossless compression
           | (given as they don't understand the data well enough to do
           | meaningfull (lossless) compression)
        
             | bsedlm wrote:
             | I meant: meaningfull ( _lossy_ ) compression
        
             | whimsicalism wrote:
             | You can get very good lossless compression with ML models,
             | it is just not very fast to decompress.
        
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