[HN Gopher] The Race to Remake the $2.5T Steel Industry with Gre...
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       The Race to Remake the $2.5T Steel Industry with Green Steel
        
       Author : elorant
       Score  : 4 points
       Date   : 2022-08-07 17:46 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | jacobgorm wrote:
       | Perhaps we could save CO2 emissions if we stopped making cars out
       | of steel, as demonstrated possible by BMW with the i3 and i8.
       | That would also make them last longer (which could be the reason
       | BMW stopped doing it.)
        
       | londons_explore wrote:
       | The biggest roadblock is that today there is no incentive to go
       | green.
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       | Consumers might like to buy their metal drinking straws knowing
       | they were made with green steel.
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       | But the vast majority of steel is used for unseen things... Like
       | building the piling machine that built the flood defences for
       | your city. There is no consumer pressure to go green there. Just
       | commercial pressure to be cheap.
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       | Companies are investigating so they are ready incase such an
       | incentive appears. But I see nothing on the horizon.
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       | Note that this is pretty much out of the hands of government too
       | - if any government mandated that all steel produced in the
       | country was green, then all steel would just be imported and
       | local industry would die. If the government put an import tariff
       | on non-green steel, then makers of steel products like cars would
       | become uncompetitive and close down. If the government gave those
       | steel users a subsidy, it would be against WTO anti-dumping
       | rules.
       | 
       | There is no good solution.
        
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