[HN Gopher] California DMV accuses Tesla of falsely advertising ...
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       California DMV accuses Tesla of falsely advertising Autopilot and
       FSD features
        
       Author : ra7
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2022-08-05 21:44 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.latimes.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.latimes.com)
        
       | ForHackernews wrote:
       | Next you'll be telling me McDonald's isn't really lovin' it!
        
       | gamblor956 wrote:
       | _The remedies proposed by the DMV if it prevails could be severe,
       | including revocation of the company's licenses to make or sell
       | its cars in California._
       | 
       | Unlikely, but the likely remedy will be that Tesla needs to
       | change the names of these features so that they aren't misleading
       | to the general public.
        
         | sillystuff wrote:
         | Changing the names to better reflect the reality of the product
         | might help set safer expectations by Tesla owners. But, as a
         | pedestrian and cyclist, I don't think it is enough.
         | 
         | All car makes including Tesla that are offering advanced cruise
         | control (e.g., lane following), should be required to geofence
         | the feature with other conditions like weather taken into
         | account too. If Tesla, Volvo, Ford, etc., have a product that
         | works at an acceptable level on simple straight highways during
         | daylight and clear weather conditions, then those are the only
         | locations and conditions the advanced cruise control devices
         | should be allowed to operate in.
        
       | adoxyz wrote:
       | Good. FSD beta is unsafe and I can't believe they actually
       | released it to the public. The videos on YouTube don't account
       | for the actual experience of being in an FSD operated car and let
       | me tell you it's a pretty scary experience.
        
       | trhway wrote:
       | False advertising it would be if it caused a reasonable man to
       | believe that it is a full self-driving, isn't it? Well, show me a
       | reasonable man who would believe that full self driving does
       | exist today :)
        
       | ncmncm wrote:
       | About time.
       | 
       | The FTC should be involved, too, and require refunds for anybody
       | who wants one.
       | 
       | FSC, "full self-crashing".
       | 
       | And the NTSB.
        
       | rvz wrote:
       | > The agency alleges the electric carmaker misled customers with
       | advertising language on its website describing Autopilot and Full
       | Self-Driving technologies as more capable than they actually are.
       | 
       | Not really a surprise to see the deception scam that Tesla has
       | done with their false advertising with both autopilot and
       | especially Fools Self Driving (FSD), as I have already said
       | before.
       | 
       | With the countless videos showing both of these contraptions
       | malfunctioning on the public roads, it is safe to say that they
       | don't work reliably and this is even before mentioning the price
       | increases on both of these features.
       | 
       | So essentially, customers are paying for a feature that doesn't
       | work and is dangerous enough to put the driver and many other
       | drivers on the road at risk.
       | 
       | Therefore, this dangerous contraption is an indefensible scam
       | which is already being investigated by many regulators.
        
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