[HN Gopher] Cumulative loneliness and subsequent memory function
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       Cumulative loneliness and subsequent memory function
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 44 points
       Date   : 2022-08-04 20:09 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | RobRivera wrote:
       | it's a challenge that is unique to everyone's journey, to
       | overcome loneliness.
       | 
       | I invested significant energy into being minimal and happy by
       | myself. it varies with some success but it is a very personal
       | journey.
        
       | yamrzou wrote:
       | Keep in mind that loneliness is different from being alone.
       | Loneliness is a state of mind linked to wanting human contact but
       | feeling alone. People can be alone and not feel lonely, or they
       | can have contact with people and still experience feelings of
       | isolation.[1]
       | 
       | I believe that loneliness stems from one's inability to be
       | friends with oneself, to enjoy one's company. This quote by
       | Osho[2] comes to mind:
       | 
       | " _The capacity to be alone is the capacity to love. It may look
       | paradoxical to you, but it's not. It is an existential truth:
       | only those people who are capable of being alone are capable of
       | love, of sharing, of going into the deepest core of another
       | person--without possessing the other, without becoming dependent
       | on the other, without reducing the other to a thing, and without
       | becoming addicted to the other. They allow the other absolute
       | freedom, because they know that if the other leaves, they will be
       | as happy as they are now. Their happiness cannot be taken by the
       | other, because it is not given by the other._ "
       | 
       | [1] _Loneliness: Causes and Health Consequences_ --
       | https://www.verywellmind.com/loneliness-causes-effects-and-t...
       | 
       | [2] _The Capacity To Be Alone_ --
       | http://www.arrowpsychotherapy.com/blog/capacitytobealone
        
         | e_joules wrote:
         | But in this particular case I bet it is the actual state of
         | being alone that is the cause of mental decline, the mechanism
         | being that one is literally not using all the parts of the
         | brain that one developed to socialize with others.
        
         | svnt wrote:
         | This is a great point for those worried about the impact on
         | themselves.
         | 
         | Given the structure of the study I wonder whether the potential
         | relationship between extroversion and loneliness as reported
         | was explored. Ie do introverts report loneliness less in
         | general?
         | 
         | In one example of extroverts, a person could be accustomed to
         | interacting with important others socially and loses them. This
         | loss of regular experience of memory recall generated by many
         | social interactions could potentially lead to under practice of
         | memory functions generally. It also might make it more likely
         | they would report loneliness.
         | 
         | Some similar studies exist for removing elderly from their
         | homes and/or purging them of their "unnecessary stuff." Again
         | here the memory function triggered by their regular visual
         | stimulation of memories associated with their stuff may be
         | sustaining those brain functions.
         | 
         | I think instead of trying to associate bad feelings with bad
         | outcomes we should be asking what combinations of individual
         | tendencies and situations produce those bad feelings, and how
         | might those bad feelings be linked to very real experiential
         | losses that might be sustained relatively easily.
         | 
         | One mitigation might be to record the elderly's persons friends
         | and/or house/belongings and make them available in VR.
        
         | kayodelycaon wrote:
         | Loneliness can have multiple sources. I'm a relatively social
         | person who also enjoys his own company. I often feel lonely
         | around people I don't feel a connection with. It reminds me of
         | growing up being the only "creative" in a family who saw art of
         | any kind as a frivolous pursuit.
        
         | gwill wrote:
         | that's a wonderful quote. thanks for sharing.
        
         | JacobThreeThree wrote:
         | Great comment.
         | 
         | This reminds me of the survival reality TV show 'Alone', which
         | is an interesting, if not contrived, experiment into how "being
         | alone" can affect you psychologically, or not, depending on the
         | person.
         | 
         | https://www.history.com/shows/alone
        
       | JamesBarney wrote:
       | I wonder which way the association runs. It seems lie 90-95% of
       | the time it's a confound
       | 
       | I wouldn't be surprised if early stages of cognitive dysfunction
       | or health issues make it harder to keep/see friends.
        
       | norwalkbear wrote:
       | I'm having a hard time taking research like this seriously after
       | the Alzheimer's research fraud.
        
       | kayodelycaon wrote:
       | I absolutely believe it. Even if I manage to do the same things I
       | normally do and avoid eating more, my depressive episodes wreck
       | my physical health. Something about depression causes changes
       | that no amount of healthy living can stop.
       | 
       | And of course every time I see these studies, I wonder just how
       | screwed I'm going to be by the time I'm 40... XD
        
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