[HN Gopher] A Microsoft team racing to catch bugs before they ha...
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A Microsoft team racing to catch bugs before they happen
Author : sogen
Score : 13 points
Date : 2022-08-03 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| tremon wrote:
| > At Microsoft, we have everything from silicon to compilers to
| the operating system
|
| In what way does Microsoft "have silicon"? They don't own a fab,
| FAFAIK. Do they design their own processors like Amazon does, or
| is this simply referring to the amount of datacenters Microsoft
| is operating for their Azure platform?
| LeonTheremin wrote:
| Xbox and Pluton, at least.
| gigel82 wrote:
| Also, technically the SQ* chips (like SQ1 used in Surface X)
| are also Microsoft chips, though they look more like slightly
| tweaked / rebranded Qualcomm devices.
| iasay wrote:
| Great job here.
|
| But what about the rest of the platform? It's knee deep in layers
| of crap accumulated over 20 years due to schizophrenic product
| management. Nothing is finished. Everything is broken or limping
| or painful to use. Every major release just adds another layer of
| crud.
|
| I want to come back to the platform but it hurts me. Every bloody
| day I have to use anything Microsoft it is literally a
| productivity draining nightmare.
| LeonTheremin wrote:
| iasay wrote:
| What the fuck
| tofuahdude wrote:
| Whoa. That commenter's history is WILD! Most fun I've had
| on HN all day.
| iasay wrote:
| That is at least 40dB over my level of insanity.
| pathartl wrote:
| I personally feel like Windows in the past 3-4 years has been
| slowly unifying to at the very least be more consistent. Part
| of this was the introduction of Windows Terminal, the rebuild
| of Notepad, tweaks to Explorer, rebuild of Task Manager coming
| in 22H2, and the huge overhaul to Settings which is slowly
| rendering Control Panel obsolete.
| blibble wrote:
| notepad could be built by a smart 12 year old over a weekend
|
| and a terminal is a pretty common single person open source
| project
|
| meanwhile the shell has something like 7 different styles of
| context menu, with several new ones added with every major
| release
| iasay wrote:
| These things are pretty much just bike shedding though in the
| scale of the problems with Windows.
|
| They are very easy to market as improvements though and MSFT
| is entirely driven by marketing now rather than quality and
| engineering.
| azinman2 wrote:
| That they have released any version of windows without 100%
| consistency is itself an abomination. We're not even talking
| about a nit, there are literally completely different
| paradigms within Settings itself as you click around, and
| that's just one example of many. Perhaps it's my Apple-bias,
| but every time I go to use Windows I just go "wow how could
| they say yup ship it?!"
| robotnikman wrote:
| extreme backwards compatability is my guess. There is
| probably some ancient program a business is running
| somewhere out there which depends on the control panel, or
| that random button, being there for whatever reason.
| givemeethekeys wrote:
| "Isn't that what QA is for?"
| muricula wrote:
| In a sense, finding security bugs is a very specialized QA sub-
| discipline, which often requires a far deeper understanding
| about security than many QA engineers or developers possess.
| However, there is also a part of that organization which does
| feature work to systemically address the kinds of security
| issues they find.
|
| Also, many large organizations like MS don't have many QA
| teams, preferring to push QA tasks onto developers, but still
| need specialized security teams. If you dig into the deep
| history of morse, they barely escaped being sacked when MS laid
| off the QA org circa 2017.
|
| (I used to work on that team, but now work at another company
| doing a similar job)
| jrm4 wrote:
| "The Exxon Team Racing to Stop Oil Spills Before They Happen"
|
| I mean, yes. That's what you were supposed to do all along and
| failed a lot at. Hopefully it gets better.
| aliqot wrote:
| drewda wrote:
| Eh, well, Microsoft Teams is so much better than Skype for
| Business (originally known as Microsoft Lync). Now that was a
| horrible video conference application!
| smcleod wrote:
| Yeah Teams is probably one of if not the worst pieces of
| software I've had to use in the last 5~ years.
| jimbob45 wrote:
| They have the clout to hire the best engineers in the world
| who could make fast native versions of Teams for each
| platform and instead they hired the Healthcare.Gov team from
| Oregon to write the garbage we currently have.
| wozer wrote:
| I think this is not about Teams. Probably more about security
| critical backend code.
| game-of-throws wrote:
| This article isn't about the app called Microsoft Teams. It's
| about a lowercase-T team of people.
| [deleted]
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