[HN Gopher] Mary Schmich's "Wear Sunscreen", which turned into a...
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Mary Schmich's "Wear Sunscreen", which turned into an unlikely 90s
hit (2019)
Author : smartmic
Score : 234 points
Date : 2022-07-31 21:05 UTC (3 days ago)
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| dang wrote:
| The original submitted URL was
| https://switchedonpop.com/episodes/everybodys-free-to-wear-s....
| Since this is a podcast without a transcript, it probably makes
| sense to change it to the most informative text article on the
| topic. So far, that looks to be the URL mentioned by neogodless
| here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32330624.
|
| Those interested can still listen to the podcast!
| whycombinetor wrote:
| The comments here feel weird now, after changing the target
| link of the post to an article not focusing on the song, when
| the majority of the top level comments are about the song. The
| new link barely mentions the song twice.
| dang wrote:
| We trust readers to be smart enough to figure things out.
| Anyone interested enough in the comments to read through them
| will soon put the pieces together.
|
| Eventually we'll have better software support for this, so
| related links won't need to be scattered across various
| comments, possibly pinned.
| [deleted]
| shagie wrote:
| Poppyfields filk version of it - Everyone's Free (to document
| their system) http://www.poppyfields.net/filks/00281.html
|
| > If I could offer you one tip for the future, documentation
| would be it. The long term benefits of a well documented system,
| with FAQs, RFCs, and man pages, have been proven time and again
| by systems administrators everywhere, whereas the rest of my
| advice has no basis more reliable than my own miserable
| experience... I will dispense this advice now
|
| > Enjoy and appreciate the well behaved and polite users. Oh,
| nevermind, by the time you figure out who the well behaved and
| polite users are, you'll have wasted all of your available time
| on the ones who are not. But believe me, in 20 years you'll look
| back at photos of some users and recall in a way you can't grasp
| now, how much time and energy you wasted on those other whiners.
|
| > ...
| edmcnulty101 wrote:
| Code IS documentation!
| EvanAnderson wrote:
| Like how a recording of a performance is the same as the
| sheet music.
| edmcnulty101 wrote:
| Haha that's a great analogy. I'm going to use that when
| someone gives me that BS line that code is documentation.
| dwringer wrote:
| Lots of music is performed first, and only later
| transcribed (often from a recording). In all cases, a
| music performance contains more data than sheet music
| (although there's no guarantee that the performer played
| their sheet music accurately to the page, if they had
| any). However, in _many_ cases it 's much more productive
| to learn a song by listening to a recording. Paul
| McCartney famously didn't use sheet music at all.
|
| I guess sheet music is like documentation, but just like
| documentation it's often incomplete, wrong, confusing,
| misleading, or worse than nothing at all. Sometimes it's
| the only ground truth we have, such as with classical
| music where we can't know what the composer truly had in
| mind, so in cases like that I'd say the sheet music is
| effectively the source code.
| biofox wrote:
| Development is like a one-way hash function: a line of code
| may have been added and structured a particular way for any
| one of an infinite number of reasons.
|
| Without the documentation (the forward mapping) there's no
| way to exactly predict its intended function, leading to
| all sorts of misunderstandings further down the line when
| someone tries to reverse it.
| throwaway821909 wrote:
| Doesn't need re-explaining but makes me realise we often
| talk about comments explaining what code does, which
| leads to "your code should be well-written so it's easy
| to understand what it does" or "I'm a good developer, I
| can understand that easily by reading it".
|
| But as you say the question is why - people will often be
| reading existing code because of a bug, so clearly the
| thought process that created it had a faulty step
| somewhere.
| bobthepanda wrote:
| Really, what people think should go in comments should
| instead go to commits, which is _actually_ a snapshot of
| what the author was trying to achieve during a point in
| time.
|
| Inline comments just become out of date or mangled.
| Commit revisions are the source of truth.
| RajT88 wrote:
| Playing by ear is an amazing skill you can develop. Some
| people (to name drop a musician: Joe Stump) can hear
| something once and just play it, note-for-note.
|
| But it's a ton easier when you're young, and your brain is
| malleable.
| gilleain wrote:
| Brings back memories, but also reminds me of the more recent
| 'Ring' by Mint Royale:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziRaY2FJR_0
| dosman33 wrote:
| Lol, I never knew this song but I knew a similar song by Sean
| Kennedy called Wear Body Armour:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUq6YotwOIo
| guender wrote:
| kristiandupont wrote:
| The words "do something every day that scares you" had a
| tremendous impact on my life.
|
| After a bad breakup, I decided that those were important words
| and that I needed to make an effort to get out of my comfort
| zone. So I wrote down a long list of things that scared me, all
| from eating weird foods, talking to strangers to traveling to new
| places and starting companies, and I started deliberately doing
| them.
|
| That became the start of a 7 year digital nomad adventure with
| several experiences that I feel could be movies. It came at a
| cost as well, but nothing that I regret.
| Jordanpomeroy wrote:
| Where did you roam? What was the best place to be a digital
| nomad? How sustainable is that lifestyle?
| kristiandupont wrote:
| I spent most of my time in Barcelona, but I was in NYC,
| London, Bangkok, Shenzhen and various small spots throughout
| Southeast Asia, mostly in Bali and Thailand. I never changed
| residency officially. I am Danish so I could certainly have
| saved a lot in taxes, but I just didn't bother.
|
| These days there is a lot more infrastructure (like
| https://nomadlist.com/) which is great but I imagine also
| takes some of the excitement out of it. If you are able to
| work remotely, it's quite easy to make it work in cheap
| places, depending on your expectations. There is a certain
| type of loneliness associated with it in that you make lots
| of temporary connections. There were times where that got to
| me. On the other hand, I made many true friends that I still
| speak to frequently. Today I am happy to have an
| international network of people that always offer me a place
| to stay when I am in their region.
| Cockbrand wrote:
| I haven't been aware of nomadlist.com before - is it worth
| the fee? I'm somewhat hesitant to sign up. The signup
| starts with some bullshit 50% discount from $218 to $109,
| while apparently $99 is the regular price anyway. Looks a
| bit sketchy in my eyes, but I might be too critical.
| virgildotcodes wrote:
| Eh, depending on what you want to get out of it, I'm not
| so sure it's worth it.
|
| A lot of the information I've come across on things like
| cost of living and average internet speed I've found to
| be pretty inaccurate.
|
| Like, it's saying $64 a month for a 1 br studio in the
| city center in Buenos Aires right now. That's nowhere
| close to what you'll be paying and it's not useful
| information. It's similar to some of the stuff you find
| on Numbeo, which makes you think "where are they getting
| these numbers??"
|
| It does seem like it would be pretty good for meeting
| people though. I happened to note in my profile that I
| was currently in Bali and had nearly half a dozen people
| DM me over the span of a couple months just looking to
| make friends or connections in the area.
|
| It does also offer access to some pretty active chat
| rooms where you get to share information with other
| digital nomads which can be pretty useful.
|
| ~$100 for access to what could essentially be a free
| discord server, or be replaced by the countless free
| expat Facebook groups you'll find based in any
| destination you'd like? Eh.
| Cockbrand wrote:
| Thank you for the reply! Being an introvert, I don't care
| much about the people :) but rather about the
| information. If it's not accurate, it's probably not
| worth the $$.
| iso1631 wrote:
| While an EU citizen can at least roam in the EU fine, and a
| US citizen can roam the 50 states, seems that roaming outside
| of that would be exceedingly difficult and expensive to get
| appropiate visa (if they exist)
| glenngillen wrote:
| What makes you say that? Admittedly most of my backpacking-
| like travel days are long behind me, but border crossings
| typically aren't that difficult or expensive. EU is
| probably the hardest (almost certainly needed the visas
| before you arrived). Most of SE Asia and Africa you'd just
| hand over a few USD at the border, get a stamp, and keep
| moving.
| presentation wrote:
| Probably depends a lot on your citizenship. As an
| American it's easy to get at least a 3-6 month visa
| basically anywhere except for embargo nations; many other
| countries that have visa holiday systems make 6 month
| stays pretty easy too. not so for my Indian friends for
| instance.
| hef19898 wrote:
| It does, German passport rate apparently under the most
| visa friendly ones. Not that I will ever have the luxury
| to actually try that... Never say never, I hope!
| iso1631 wrote:
| Sure, for a visit or for business meetings.
|
| I as a UK citizen can temporarily visit the US, or Japan,
| or Thailand on holiday.
|
| I could also go to meet my colleagues there, go and sell
| something, go and buy something, go to a convention, etc.
| That's counted as "doing business"
|
| I can't work there though, unless I have an appropriate
| visa. Doesn't matter if I'm working remotely for a remote
| company that doesn't even have a presence in the country,
| it is still doing work.
| [deleted]
| anonu wrote:
| A bit of an anti-globalist perspective IMO. With an EU or
| US [1] passport you can freely visit 100s of countries with
| no visa - or "visa on arrival" which is usually still
| relatively cheap for most countries.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Uni
| ted_S...
| patrec wrote:
| Now try "^F work".
| agileAlligator wrote:
| according to another comment, you pretend you are a
| tourist and don't actually get a work visa
| patrec wrote:
| I other words, you are willing to commit insurance fraud
| (or shoulder the risks of being uninsured) and violate
| visa laws and hope nobody finds out. But at least no one
| will accuse you of being of an "anti-globalist
| perspective".
|
| (For what it's worth, I think it would probably be a win
| for many countries to make it feasible to get some short-
| term-ish remote work visa if you are unlikely to burden
| them or drive down local wages).
| shagie wrote:
| There are a number of Caribbean countries that have a
| digital nomad visa with just that in mind. (
| https://www.caribbeanandco.com/caribbean-digital-nomad-
| visa-... )
|
| The tricky bit with all of this is the company that you
| work for and if your presence in that country while
| working establishes a tax nexus there.
|
| Kansas is the _anti_ digital nomad place.
| https://kansaspolicy.org/rethinking-taxes-around-remote-
| work...
|
| > Kansas has policies that could deter remote work and
| are deterring greater interstate work with our neighbors.
| Kansas requires employer withholding for people working
| in the state just for one day, which creates an annoying
| hurdle for companies trying to operate even in a small
| capacity in Kansas. In 2020, the Kansas legislature
| considered a bill that would have extended the
| withholding requirement period to 30 days, but the
| proposal died.
| brabel wrote:
| You can easily get year-long visas to Australia and New
| Zealand if you're young enough and from an "approved"
| country (look for working holliday visa).
|
| I think countries like Thailand and Indonesia (Bali) also
| allow foreigners to stay quite a generous amount of time...
| South America is also an option for up to 6 months, I
| believe, without much hassle... if you fancy China, they
| also have not-so-difficult-to-get student visas from what
| I've seen (lots of Europeans were going to study there for
| some reason when I was a "traveller" myself, around a
| decade ago... and it can be to study silly things like
| dance or a language, nothing too serious) so that's pretty
| much most of the world already?
| bombcar wrote:
| The "quiet part" you don't say out loud is you don't get
| work visas - you pretend you're a tourist and survive on
| those.
|
| However, an American could spend _years_ just traveling the
| United States, and that doesn 't even cover the possibility
| of the territories, etc.
| metacritic12 wrote:
| Also it's an open secret that enforcement is poor to nil
| on the above setup.
|
| The major checkpoint is at custom control, where choosing
| your words carefully will be important. I'm sure Google
| offers some good advice on this.
| patrec wrote:
| > Also it's an open secret that enforcement is poor to
| nil on the above setup.
|
| OK, but what happens if you have a medical emergency?
| Googling suggests there are dedicated "digital nomad"
| insurance plans, but does a sizable fraction of digital
| nomads actually have insurance that provides cover for
| people who are doing illegal remote work?
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| Traveling the US misses out on different cultural
| experiences though which are the most interesting parts
| of traveling I think, esp making friends and dating.
| yardstick wrote:
| What about the tax aspect of it? Or do you simply pay tax
| as resident of the place you last properly lived?
|
| Maybe this is a more relevant question for non-Americans,
| since most other countries don't tax their citizens on
| their worldwide income. Eg UK definitely doesn't. But
| often it requires the employer to be comfortable with the
| HR situation you put them in. Often easier to contract
| via a company (intermediary HR entity or your own).
| bombcar wrote:
| Many people just keep "working" for wherever they
| "officially" live and stay on the down-low. You get a lot
| of cash/barter happening also, and try to stay out of the
| attention of the authorities.
| bonestamp2 wrote:
| Many places have tax treaties that allow you to pay taxes
| to your "home" nation (and/or state/province) as long as
| you don't stay there/away more than a certain number of
| days each year. That also assumes you have the right visa
| to work there legally, and I don't mean work for a local
| company... I mean do any work that you get paid for such
| as remote work.
| iso1631 wrote:
| So you're an illegal immigration bouncing from country to
| country?
| scarface74 wrote:
| Just like "illegal immigration" in the US, you probably
| add more to the country economically than you cost. If
| you're working remotely, it's not like you're taking a
| job away from the locals.
| failTide wrote:
| > an American could spend years just traveling the United
| States
|
| Yup. I actually imagine a Californian could probably
| spend a LIFETIME roaming California and still not see
| everything that's worth seeing. The late Huell Howser did
| just that, but he only scratched the surface of the
| amazing places to visit in CA.
| patrec wrote:
| There are a couple of countries that let you do it above-
| board:
|
| https://www.investopedia.com/countries-offering-digital-
| noma...
| scarface_74 wrote:
| I can attest to that, my wife and I are planning the
| digital nomad lifestyle later this year. But we are doing
| it only in the US, staying in one brand of hotels (Hilton
| brands -- Homewood and Embassy's mostly) to take advantage
| of loyalty programs for free nights, the consistency over
| trying to stay at an AirBnb and just for comfort, and
| flying everywhere.
|
| It's going to take us at least 3 years to hit all of the
| places we want to stay. Depending on hotel prices, we plan
| to stay at each place from 7-21 days. It's definitely on
| the "expensive" side. But we are renting out our house and
| selling our cars to make it more affordable.
|
| Of course The whole credit card churning and earning points
| won't hurt.
| beastman82 wrote:
| What kind of Hilton perks come with this kind of lengthy
| stays?
| scarface_74 wrote:
| For context: A "point" can be worth from $0.005 to $0.009
| depending on how you use them.
|
| When I stay at a Hilton, I get points per dollar spent
| not including taxes. But including hotel restaurants.:
|
| - 10x - base points everyone gets
|
| - 10x - Diamond status for having the Amex Hilton Aspire
| card
|
| - 14x - every dollar spent at a Hilton including taxes
| and fees..
|
| So that's 34 points per dollar that I usually would say
| is worth $0.17 to $0.23 per dollar in points.
|
| Also with Hilton, if you pay for four nights with all
| points, you get the fifth night free. You also don't pay
| taxes and fees when you pay with points. We are planning
| to stay for free at least 40 days next year in various
| big cities across the US.
|
| You also get 10K points for each 10 days you stay over 30
| and an additional 30K points after you stay over 60 days.
| Hilton is usually running some kind of special. For
| instance from May through September, you get an
| additional 20 points per dollar when you stay more than 3
| days. That's 54 points per dollar or almost 38 cents per
| dollar toward future stays.
|
| Airlines aren't nearly as generous - ever.
|
| I travel maybe 6 times a year for business and collect
| points using "other people's money"
| bonestamp2 wrote:
| A few tips from my years of traveling for work:
|
| Every hotel has mini fridges they can put in your room.
| These are for people who have medicine that needs to be
| refrigerated. You can request one of these fridges if
| your room doesn't have a fridge. I always let them know
| that I don't need it for medicine and that they can have
| it back if they need it. I did this every week and only
| once was a hotel ever out of fridges; never did they
| request to have it back.
|
| Bring your own router and network cables. Sometimes, I
| should say often, the wifi signal is weak in your room.
| If there's an ethernet jack then you can setup your own
| access point. If you can only get one connection, then
| the router can help share that connection. A nice router
| will also have multiple ethernet ports of course, so you
| can both be wired in when you have important calls, etc.
|
| Bring your own streaming media device. If you like roku,
| or firetv, or whatever, bring your own and plug it into
| the hotel TV when you want video entertainment. If you
| bring your own router it also makes for easy setup on
| their network. Roku, Amazon, Apple and Google all have
| models with ethernet support if you want extra stability.
|
| Bring a small toolkit with basic tools and a flashlight.
| Sometimes your things or the hotel's things are broken
| and it's so much faster to get up and running with a
| couple turns of a screwdriver than waiting for a
| maintenance guy who may never show up.
|
| The flashlight is also very useful if you're renting
| cars. They're often parked in dark airport garages and
| it's nice to walk around the car first so you can
| properly report damage before you take responsibility of
| the car. Never rent from low priced local car rental
| agencies, they are known to milk the same damages for
| money from every customer.
|
| Bring a good bluetooth speaker. If you enjoy music,
| decent sound is a simple luxury that punches above its
| weight. In a jam, you can cut a rectangular hole in the
| bottom of a hotel paper cup to make your phone speaker a
| little more directional. Having that toolkit is helpful
| here.
|
| Check the tax laws. If you stay in any one place too
| long, you'll owe income taxes there. 21 days shouldn't be
| a problem, but probably good to check.
| scarface74 wrote:
| All Hiltons at least have mini fridges. Homewood Suites
| and Home2Suites have full refrigerators. Homewood suites
| has full kitchens with stoves. Home2Suites allows you to
| check out "burners".
|
| I have a Roku stick for traveling. It has a feature that
| lets it log in to captured networks where you have to
| login. Some hotels have remotes that don't allow you to
| change the source. I travel with a couple of "universal"
| brand specific remotes
|
| TMobile has a "secret plan" called Global 15 that gives
| you unlimited high speed hot spot data in the US (not 3G)
| for $50 a month. I signed up for that.
|
| I travel as a consultant occasionally and I visit my
| parents decently often and work from there. I've
| optimized my travel setup:
|
| - I have a portable USB C powered display for a second
| display
|
| - I use my iPad as a third display using Duet (the native
| Mac screen sharing doesn't work on my corporate laptop)
|
| - I have a Roost 3 laptop stand
|
| - I have the largest airplane legal Anker battery pack
| that can charge a laptop and other devices
|
| - I have a few truly "universal cords"
|
| https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093YVRHMB
|
| BTW: I locked myself out of this account (typo in the
| noprocast setting). I'm the original commenter.
| bombcar wrote:
| Somewhat reminds me of Deteriorata - also filled with useful
| advice - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6ugTmCYMk
| dbbk wrote:
| I first heard this on Radio 1 when they were playing it next to a
| similar modern song, Self Esteem's I Do This All The Time. Both
| of them are incredible.
|
| "Getting married isn't the biggest day of your life, all the days
| that you get to have are big."
| devmunchies wrote:
| Maybe don't take this advice. Been a few recent discoveries of
| chemicals in sunscreen causing cancer.
|
| - https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1553488459855167491?s=20&t...
|
| - https://www.axios.com/2021/10/02/coppertone-sunscreen-recall...
|
| coppertone and banana boat issuing recalls.
|
| The advice of protecting skin is still valid, don't get burned.
| jonathanbull wrote:
| The song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI
| 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
| Keep old love letters
| rr888 wrote:
| Print out your text messages...
| pnut wrote:
| I followed this advice, thinking it was great, and then my wife
| found the box.
| jgrahamc wrote:
| I think this is very good advice. I have boxes of love letters
| from long since lost lovers and although I never read them I
| know they are filled with happiness.
| iso1631 wrote:
| > although I never read them
|
| I love the ambiguity of the tense there. "I never {red} them"
| vs "I never {reed} them"
|
| Significantly changes the implications of the sentence!
| jgrahamc wrote:
| And yet I read them.
| madeofpalk wrote:
| I've never heard the original, but i remember my had occasionally
| listening to the (Australian) parody Not the Sunscreen Song
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YwqFz14xY4 when i was a kid. The
| line "never go to Adelaide - it's a hole" is stuck in my brain.
| badcppdev wrote:
| You just beat me to posting a link to Safran's song.
| But most of all, don't aim too high, You're probably
| only suited to an office or factory job
| dmitriid wrote:
| There's also "No Sex (In the Champagne Room)"
| https://youtu.be/j9yBPcn8IqU
| nailer wrote:
| Uncensored: https://open.spotify.com/track/4f7i5mGkpmjORhoN77
| kSch?si=0f3...
| jacksonkmarley wrote:
| > never go to Adelaide - it's a hole
|
| It's funny because it's true.
| nailer wrote:
| Adelaide isn't a hole but don't tell anyone before I buy a
| house there.
| taneq wrote:
| Clearly you listened to the Adam and Wil segment "Adelaide:
| It's OK" back in the day. :P
| sailfast wrote:
| Everybody always forgets the last line:
|
| "Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing
| the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly
| parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.
|
| But trust me on the sunscreen"
| xbar wrote:
| Actually, that's the line I most often reference when giving
| advice to my adult children.
| andruby wrote:
| I almost always tear up when I hear this song. I was 13 when it
| came out. It brings out a mix of nostalgia and "wisdom of life",
| if that's a thing.
|
| Every decade the lyrics have new meaning.
|
| I believe our generation genuinely wears more sunscreen :)
| aidenn0 wrote:
| I graduated high school the year this was most popular, so the
| graduation speaker at my high school made a reference to it. The
| closest thing I can think of to a hit as a precedent for it is
| maybe _I 'm too sexy_ by Right Said Fred. It was a gimmick song
| and everybody knew it was one, but it was fun.
| codeptualize wrote:
| Added to my playlist!
|
| I love this song. It has had tremendous impact on me. It somehow
| just takes the pressure off, especially in moments where you are
| stressed, depressed, or anxious.
| codeptualize wrote:
| Listened to it. Great podcast. I was positively surprised that
| they got Baz Luhrman and Mary Schmich to tell their story about
| the song and how it came to be, really cool story as well.
|
| From the podcast as well as the reactions here it seems this
| song/speech touched if not changed a lot of lives for the
| better. How powerful music and words can be is astounding.
|
| And how wonderful that this song with so much impact has such a
| history of random events and lucky moments.
| lysergia wrote:
| Reminds me of 'Fitter Happier' by Radiohead. Some loose guide on
| how to succeed in life, although the Radiohead lyrics are more
| cynical. Here's the lyrics:
|
| "Fitter Happier"
|
| Fitter, happier, more productive Comfortable (Not drinking too
| much) Regular exercise at the gym (Three days a week) Getting on
| better with your associate employee contemporaries At ease Eating
| well (No more microwave dinners and saturated fats) A patient,
| better driver A safer car (Baby smiling in back seat) Sleeping
| well (No bad dreams) No paranoia Careful to all animals (Never
| washing spiders down the plughole) Keep in contact with old
| friends (Enjoy a drink now and then) Will frequently check credit
| at (Moral) bank (hole in wall) Favours for favours Fond but not
| in love Charity standing orders On Sundays ring road supermarket
| (No killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants) Car wash
| (Also on Sundays) No longer afraid of the dark Or midday shadows
| Nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate Nothing so childish
| At a better pace Slower and more calculated No chance of escape
| Now self-employed Concerned (But powerless) An empowered and
| informed member of society (Pragmatism not idealism) Will not cry
| in public Less chance of illness Tires that grip in the wet (Shot
| of baby strapped in back seat) A good memory Still cries at a
| good film Still kisses with saliva No longer empty and frantic
| Like a cat Tied to a stick That's driven into Frozen winter shit
| (The ability to laugh at weakness) Calm Fitter, healthier and
| more productive A pig In a cage On antibiotics
| anotheruser092 wrote:
| I get the message, and I strongly disagree with it, as someone
| who hasn't achieved stability yet.
|
| When you don't have a stable career, or work for long hours for
| low pay with family to take care of, you wish you had this
| life. The message can also be taken in a bad way by young
| people, who then neglect to develop useful skills early on, and
| ultimately struggle hard to find work. There is so much
| messaging against good choices in life, that people overlook
| why they are good choices anyways. I'd rather be at least
| middle class with the money and freedom to change my
| circumstances, than struggling with little freedom due to lack
| of resources.
|
| I don't deny that this is a work of art, and one crafted well,
| but I just disagree with the sentiment.
| mikkergp wrote:
| It's very rockstar live fast die young mentality. (at least
| half of it, the other half I agree with) Assuming they value
| art, I find in my own life that stability gives me more time
| to work on and finish art. Drinking less, exercising three
| times a week etc, for me it allows me to be more deeply
| transgressive or unconventional, not less so.
| CPLX wrote:
| Noting that a typical middle class lifestyle is comparable to a
| pig being held in a cage for a meaningless life and eventual
| slaughter probably does in fact meet the full definition of
| cynical.
| widdershins wrote:
| Doesn't the final sentence suggest that the list is more than
| slightly cynical? To me it seems like Radiohead are sneering at
| this safe middle-road existence.
| drewzero1 wrote:
| I've never caught the full lyrics before, but I've never
| thought it was meant as a guide in any way. Rather, it's a
| condemnation of mass modern life and complacency, people
| getting older and more boring and going through their lives
| like cattle until they die. It's mocking all the life advice
| our boring parents gave us when we were growing up. This is
| all delivered in a monotone, almost robotic text-to-speech
| voice with Radiohead's typical eerie music backing it.
|
| (As a longtime fan I'm a bit biased, but I think it's worth a
| listen to understand the tone:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4SzvsMFaek . The rest of the
| album also adds some context, as others have noted.)
| f38zf5vdt wrote:
| It is absolutely cynical. There's another song in the album
| about getting fed up with modern life and committing suicide
| (No Surprises).
| lysergia wrote:
| Yeah I guess you could say this is full blown cynicism
| biohax2015 wrote:
| I grew up loving Radiohead, and they are still my favorite
| band. Recently I realized that my life is resembling this song
| more and more. It was a depressing discovery.
| collinmanderson wrote:
| Also, right stereo channel: "This is The Panic Office. Section
| 917 may have been hit. Activate following procedure."
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/radiohead/comments/mhpv3/we_need_to...
|
| (You can hear this clearly if you isolate stereo differences
| with Audacity: Effect -> Vocal Reduction and Isolation ->
| Remove Center. Strength 100%.)
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjQ-I4Tu24
| filmgirlcw wrote:
| I was in high school when this came out so I can recite this song
| word-for-word because in 1999, it was all over MTV, the radio,
| and most importantly, on Napster. I remember the original 1997
| edit (even though I first heard it in 1999), because that was the
| version I downloaded off of Napster as a 15 year old.
|
| Even back then, there were all sorts of weird attributions to it
| (I think that my Napster copy had a Kurt Vonnegut credits, though
| the author was Baz Luhrmann in the meta data) and conspiracies
| about it. But I remember learning fairly early that it was some
| newspaper column.
|
| The other part of this is that the 7:10 version has the
| "Everybody's Free" sample from Luhrmann's "Romeo + Juliet" --
| which like every other 13 year old girl in 1997, was a soundtrack
| I knew backwards/forwards/upside down/verbatim.
|
| Like the people on the podcast, this has remained a weird earworm
| that I can just recall instantly in weird places.
|
| What a weird but great song. And as I am now in my late 30s, the
| advice is good!
| sircastor wrote:
| I was also inundated with this song late in highschool. It was
| one of the songs that made it from whatever illicit file-
| sharing system into my personal library as "Baz Luhrman -
| Everybody's Free (to wear sunscreen)." I also remember the
| discovery process of learning that he didn't write the words.
| Learning that he didn't speak the text either. Learning that it
| was speech given to a graduating class. And learning that it
| _wasn 't_ a speech to a graduating class, but a column written.
|
| We still have a library full of mislabeled music like that.
|
| I'm in my early 40s, "Be kind to your knees, you'll miss them
| when they're gone" comes to mind not infrequently.
| NonNefarious wrote:
| The misattribution to Vonnegut was indeed pervasive, and
| stupid.
|
| You have to be a maladjusted no-lifer to get your jollies from
| "pranks" like that.
| tomrod wrote:
| I mean, you just described 99.99999% of the population,
| especially those that participate in a discussion of a 25
| year old pop song on a technical community board, or more
| broadly, teenagers.
|
| More jollies and harmless pranks, I say!
|
| But on a serious note, I reflect a lot on that song and
| empathize with being kinds to knees (I broke mine at 18 and
| decades later still feel it).
| FascistDonut wrote:
| I was in highschool when I first heard it too - class of 2000.
| I loved the song and Kurt Vonnegut. I have even played it for
| some friends within the last year.
|
| I had absolutely no idea about the true origin until today.
| kelnos wrote:
| I remember first hearing it in college, a few years after it
| came out. It was around the time I'd first heard of Baz
| Luhrmann for other reasons (Strictly Ballroom, Romeo + Juliet,
| and Moulin Rouge, all of which I loved at the time), so I feel
| like he was in the collective consciousness of my social
| circles, and that increased its popularity. I remember not
| finding out the true origins of the prose until quite a few
| years later.
|
| I hadn't known about the sampling from "Everybody's Free" from
| R+J! Always something new to learn.
|
| Listening to it again today... the parts about getting to know
| your parents before they're gone for good (mine have both
| passed since I first heard the song), and being kind to your
| knees (I'm still recovering from a knee injury from back in
| January), really resonated with me. One major thing I am
| pleased about is that I have managed to hold on to those
| "precious few" close friends over the years; my life would be
| very different without them.
| nonameiguess wrote:
| Ha, amusing to see a fan of this song. I'm class of '99 and
| definitely remember that this song exists now that I see this
| thread, but had forgotten up until today and do not remember a
| single word. Still love Romeo+Juliet, though, and make my wife
| watch Quindon Tarver (RIP) singing _When Doves Cry_ on YouTube
| every few months when I think about him.
| blowski wrote:
| It's amazing how every so often, I gain new insight into a line
| from this song. I recently hit 40, and "be kind to your knees,
| you'll miss them when they're gone" is starting to make sense in
| a way that used to be more abstract.
| sircastor wrote:
| I was just writing a comment about this. I am in my early 40s
| and that line comes to my mind all the time.
| dsego wrote:
| 38 here, things just don't heal as fast and tend to ache for
| weeks or months.
| purpleblue wrote:
| Almost 50 here. 40+ is not just an age. It sucks being in
| your 40s. Things really don't work the same. My brain is
| slower, I get confused a little bit more, I struggle to find
| the right words at least 3 times a day. Even worse, your
| parents get sick and you have to start worrying about them
| and taking care of them.
|
| Enjoy your 30s to the fullest, because it gets worse and it's
| completely out of your control to make it better. The best
| you can expect in your 40s is to slow down the decline.
| magicalhippo wrote:
| "Banged my knee, guess I'll get used to that pain"
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jhNRDygjvg
| tclancy wrote:
| Was around the time I started doing yoga semi-regularly
| (which reminds me I haven't done it in weeks). I have a
| couple of YouTube videos starred that I use depending on
| where things ache, though I've found the bulk of what I need
| is for tight hips; takes care of hips, legs and back pain.
| jrussino wrote:
| I could use some help with hip flexibility - would you be
| willing to post some links?
| gonzo41 wrote:
| Don't let age slow you down.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9iuSVnfisI
| dsego wrote:
| Christoph Strasser (born 1982) just won the
| Transcontinental, a bicycle race of 4000km across Europe.
|
| https://dotwatcher.cc/race/tcr-
| no8?post=34p4cOKwoPRSffwYwnBw...
| brabel wrote:
| Thanks for posting something positive here... the other
| comments are really depressing for someone who's in their
| early 40's :(
| [deleted]
| harrylove wrote:
| Hopefully this helps someone else. I'm approaching 50. I just
| took up mountain biking after moving to an area that has lots
| of trails. I have seen gains in my health and my mood that I
| worried might not return. I ride with a guy who's 60 and he
| regularly smokes the rest of us. My wife and I started kayaking
| together recently and that's done wonders for mood, health, and
| our marriage. So, here's my advice:
|
| 1) Don't stress about your age. And don't stress about
| approaching an age. Enjoy whatever age you are. Instead,
| consider your condition. Should you improve it? Can you improve
| it?
|
| 2) To help with #1, find a hobby that gets your heart rate up
| and uses a good portion of your body. Better yet, find multiple
| hobbies that exercise different areas of your body.
|
| 3) For me, the key to #2 was finding a hobby that actively
| engages my mind at the same time. I needed the rush and
| challenge of riding on trails that mountain biking offers. But
| for kayaking, I thrive on the opposite. The tranquility of the
| water and being out on a date with my wife is a sort of
| meditation. In both hobbies, I come home refreshed and
| energized. If you haven't found such a hobby yet, keep trying
| different things until something clicks. You'll probably know
| it when you get there.
| wsinks wrote:
| As someone who just started mountain biking for health two
| days ago (mid-30s now, always been athletic but decided to
| take the pandemic off...)
|
| I agree with all this! Great list. I'm considering taking
| today off from doing hills on the mountain bike, but maybe
| I'll still go out and ride some flats, not sure it's more
| healthy to take a day off from it right now. I felt great for
| hours after both rides.
| johnla wrote:
| This is so funny. I started mountain biking last year and
| it's been fun but I wanted to do something with my wife as a
| hobby. I'll look into Kayaking. LOL.
|
| Do you do a 2 person kayak or 2 separate 1 person kayaks?
| jsjohnst wrote:
| Very much agree re: the aging advice in the song, my gosh the
| difference past 40!
|
| I sorta followed the advice of the song and spent around 10
| years in California (LA + Bay Area). Have spent the following
| 10 years living in the NYC area (mostly, there was a short
| break in the middle). Wish the song gave a suggestion after you
| leave both! I tried the "live in a large RV" life in 2021
| traveling all over and it was great, but it isn't something
| that would be a multi-year thing for me I don't think.
| Damogran6 wrote:
| We have a trailer, and use it a half-dozen times a year and I
| could NOT full time. Too much decision fatigue.
|
| And the number of people trying to self-fund their full time
| lifestyle on Youtube...holy smokes.
| skerit wrote:
| Omg, I just got that line. I never really heard it correctly, I
| thought he was referencing family.
|
| "Be kind to your niece", what?
| kelnos wrote:
| Ooof, yeah. I injured one of my knees back in January, and at
| 41... well, it's still recovering, and the physical therapy is
| slow. I'm otherwise in good health, but it's just frustrating
| to see how we don't heal as well as we get older.
| ipqk wrote:
| I'm not even 38 and I'm doing PT for my knee right now.
| jedberg wrote:
| Protip from someone who is 45 and has had bad knees since he
| was 15: Strengthen the muscles around the knee as much as
| possible. The stronger your quads and calves are, the better
| your knees will be.
|
| The best way to do this is squats with either no weights or
| just a couple of pounds. You may need to wear knee braces when
| you do this (in my case I was able to skip the braces after
| about 10 years)
|
| This is actually true for most any joint in your body -- the
| stronger the muscles surrounding the joint are, the better that
| joint will perform.
| wwweston wrote:
| Any recommendations for people already finding they have
| trouble doing squats (other than going to PT)?
| kelnos wrote:
| Agreed! I injured my knee back in January, and my physical
| therapist's main focus has been on strengthening my all the
| muscles _around_ the knee in addition to the knee itself. It
| 's been a slow recovery, but I can definitely see how it
| works better this way.
|
| My sister has been having foot and hip problems, and her PT
| has been taking a whole-musculature approach to healing those
| issues. It's really nice to see these kind of thoughtful
| interventions, rather than immediately getting prescribed a
| steroid shot, or, worse, surgery.
| AmericanChopper wrote:
| I decided to try sled pulls after seeing a YouTuber
| KneesOverToesGuy, who claimed it was great for knee strength.
| I do sets of sled pulls at least a couple of times a week
| now, and imo it's been great for my knees. I can do 3-4 6+
| mile runs a week without ever getting sore knees.
| dleslie wrote:
| This is why I do squats: chronic knee and back pain melted
| away after taking on weighted squats for a few months.
| japanuspus wrote:
| The surgeon who fixed my first knee injury advised me to do
| single legged squads if in any way possible: the balancing
| aspect is good for activating many small muscles around the
| knee, and the weight is high enough to maintain muscle mass
| even after age 50.
| nazgulnarsil wrote:
| pulling a sled also strengthens the acl which are a
| weakpoint for many.
| wodenokoto wrote:
| I recently watched "Elvis" in cinema, and was constantly reminded
| of this music video.
|
| That movie has a lot of unnecessary swipes and camera fly-
| arounds, picture in picture and mosaics, and somehow is a better
| movie for it.
| happyopossum wrote:
| I remember listening to this song over and over as they played it
| in heavy rotation on KROQ when I was in my 20s. Some of those
| words I wish I'd taken to heart.
|
| Laying in bed the day after ACL reconstruction, the advice about
| your knees is particularly poignant.
| jader201 wrote:
| Title should include "(2019)".
| hwestiii wrote:
| Mary Schmich was the speaker at my graduation from North Central
| College in Naperville IL in June 2000. She gently prefaced her
| remarks with the clarification that she, and not Vonnegut was the
| source is the song's text.
| Joeboy wrote:
| As far as I know it's unrelated, but William Burroughs did a
| similarly themed but much more cynical thing called "Words of
| Advice for Young People".
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS_X1Y_X8sg
| flerp wrote:
| I love Avery Truffleman
| VyseofArcadia wrote:
| Interesting! I am the age when I should have come across this
| song, but I never did. Never saw the music video, never heard it
| on the radio, never heard anyone talk about it at school.
|
| The advice is timeless, but I don't know that the song has aged
| particularly well. If you can call it that. It's less a song and
| more an essay read over a very 90s beat, and not 90s in a way
| that makes me nostalgic either.
| kcarter80 wrote:
| I'm 41. I just asked 6 friends who are my contemporaries and
| each of them knew this song well. It was also, of course,
| extremely popular, as the link points out.
|
| Can you introspect a bit about what may be unusual about you so
| that you were never exposed to this song?
| VyseofArcadia wrote:
| For starters, at 35 I am a bit younger than you. That's
| certainly a factor, but I still should have been exposed.
|
| For radio play, I was living in rural Alabama at the time.
| Wouldn't shock me if the local station never played it
| because someone's church had some kind of issue with it.
| (Famously my mother once called in to request a Billy Idol
| song and was refused because the DJ claimed that Idol was a
| satanist.)
|
| For the music video, my dad was the unrelenting Master of the
| Remote Control, and he didn't care for music videos (although
| he loved rock music. I have his record collection. Go
| figure.) My brother and I did get to watch stuff, but my
| brother is younger still. At the time, we would have been
| watching programs suitable for both of us, which was mostly
| cartoons, as he was the right age range and I wasn't quite
| too old.
|
| I definitely had friends and classmates who were watching
| music videos and talking about them at school. I remember
| that much, but don't remember any details. I probably tuned
| them out since I wasn't paying attention to music videos
| anyway.
| kcarter80 wrote:
| Thanks for replying!
| pavon wrote:
| Early forties, grew up in NM, never heard the song until
| today. I wasn't personally into hip hop but I seemed to
| have been exposed to most of the other hip hop songs on the
| Billboard top 100 in 1999 when the song peaked.
| fezfight wrote:
| I'm 40 and I've never heard it, nor have the 4 people sitting
| around me.
|
| We were all in Ontario when this song was apparently popular.
| We were all massively into music at the time.
| kcarter80 wrote:
| > We were all massively into music at the time.
|
| There was something consistent and unusual about your lack
| of exposure to this song.
| [deleted]
| skerit wrote:
| I never put it on, but it's in my library and I never skip it
| if it starts playing. I also still hear it every now and then
| on the radio.
| TheChaplain wrote:
| Had totally forgotten about that one, what a nostalgia trip.
|
| Now 20 years older (and wiser?), I can say it is shock-full of
| good advice.
| celticninja wrote:
| Chock-full
| bitexploder wrote:
| Mostly it makes me think about high school and how difficult
| and uncertain my life was at that point. I didn't even really
| know my life was all that difficult and uncertain, but I really
| disliked high school :)
| bertil wrote:
| There's something endearing about someone famous saying that
| their talent isn't fit for what people want them to do, and
| still, somehow, nail it anyway.
| justinzollars wrote:
| I remember this song.
| nailer wrote:
| Oooh good timing. Born in 81, this came out when I was 18-ish,
| I'm 41 now.
|
| I got married, got divorced, did a bunch of things, some worked
| out, some didn't, but I know myself, I'm healthy and I'm thankful
| for what I have.
| iancmceachern wrote:
| This song has the best advise I've ever heard. Every single line.
| I remember hearing it when it first came out, and I remember
| thinking of it many times throughout my life.
| DubiousPusher wrote:
| Critically missing though, never get under a vehicle which is
| supported only by a jack.
| kbelder wrote:
| Had a car drop off the jack five seconds after I rolled out
| from underneath it. Jesus Christ that was frightening. Gave
| me the shakes. Now I never work on them without stands.
| iancmceachern wrote:
| This is also very, very good advice!
| neogodless wrote:
| Also useful history on the column and misattribution.
|
| https://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/mary-schmich-is...
| dang wrote:
| Thanks! I've changed the URL to that from
| https://switchedonpop.com/episodes/everybodys-free-to-
| wear-s.... More here:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32334595.
| purpleblue wrote:
| I had not heard this song (or the original column) until my 30s,
| after my divorce. My close friend sent me this song, and it was
| the anthem for my next couple of years, regardless of how cheesy
| that sounds. It really did help me out of a bad place, and it's
| filled with absolute wisdom and actually did change the
| trajectory of my life.
| codeptualize wrote:
| Original column by Mary Schmich:
| https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/chi-schmich-sunscreen...
| papandada wrote:
| Every graduation at the time had to either reference or parody
| this song.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| Can confirm; I graduated '99 and the speaker led with "A
| graduation speaker is like the body at an Irish wake; you can't
| have the party without him, but nobody really expects him to
| say anything important" then segued into "So what should I say;
| should I tell you to wear sunscreen?"
|
| Less than a decade later he won the Nobel Peace prize. Probably
| not for those jokes
| wizofaus wrote:
| Meant to ask this earlier, but how odd does the accent of the
| narrator sound to native-US ears? (when I first listened at very
| low volume I just assumed he was an American, but listening
| carefully at full volume it's fairly obvious he's not)
| djur wrote:
| Nothing about it jumps out to me as obviously "not American".
| It's not a distinct regional accent to me but that's very
| common. It sounds mannered, like a TV presenter who has worked
| on developing a recognizable voice. What stands out to you?
|
| EDIT: The voice actor who performed it is Australian. I'm not
| hugely surprised to learn that. Australians seem to be pretty
| good at credible American accents.
| wizofaus wrote:
| Nothing "stands out", but as an aussie myself I could hear
| particular vowel sounds (especially the 'ee' in sunscreen,
| after "One tip for the future") that were a giveaway.
| patwolf wrote:
| In high school before I had even heard the song on the radio, we
| went on a field trip to local pharmaceutical lab. One of the
| chemists there had printed out copies of the lyrics for us from
| an email that had it mislabeled as being from Kurt Vonnegut.
|
| That was during the era where people of a certain age, even a
| scientist in a chemistry lab, would believe anything sent to them
| in an email.
| pavon wrote:
| Hah, according to Wikipedia[1] Luhrmann himself got the lyrics
| from that misattributed Vonnegut chain email, and only when
| trying to secure rights discovered it was actually from a Mary
| Schmich article.
|
| [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody%27s_Free_(To_Feel_Go
| ...
| kelnos wrote:
| I assume you meant to link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear
| _Sunscreen#Baz_Luhrmann_ve...
| aceazzameen wrote:
| Ah yes. Chain emails were where meme-like disinformation used
| to spread before Facebook made it even easier. At least I don't
| have people forwarding garbage into my inbox anymore.
| subpixel wrote:
| Count yourself lucky. FWIW these are still a thing in older
| crowds.
| geerlingguy wrote:
| But they're often disseminated through Facebook and
| Instagram now.
| fritztastic wrote:
| This song has a special place in my memory, very specifically we
| used to listen to that exact CD in the first years when we came
| to America. I remember feeling something very deep and profound
| from the words, even when I didn't at first understand the words
| or what the song was really saying- I could tell from how it
| sounded, even as a child, that it came from a place of sincere
| caring. In contrast with much of everything else in music before
| and since, it really stands out. Knowing the story behind it is
| really nice, it's whimsical, heartwarming, and unlike most things
| inspired by internet culture... genuinely wholesome. Thanks for
| sharing this!
| nimphoenix wrote:
| This song gives me goosebumps every time. Not a lot of people I
| know appreciate it's meaning.
| [deleted]
| gadders wrote:
| I just went down a rabbit hole and ended on the wikipedia page
| when I saw this:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Schmich#'Wear_Sunscreen'
|
| >>The column was circulated around the Internet, with an
| erroneous claim that it was a commencement address by Kurt
| Vonnegut, usually at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
| and the misattribution became a news item when Vonnegut was
| contacted by reporters to comment. He told The New York Times,
| "What she wrote was funny, wise and charming, so I would have
| been proud had the words been mine."[15]
|
| What a mensch Kurt Vonnegut was.
| strmchsr wrote:
| Is this really Baz Luhrmann singing or is it someone else?
| kelnos wrote:
| According to [0], it's Australian voice actor Lee Perry.
|
| [0]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_Sunscreen#Baz_Luhrmann_ve...
| marban wrote:
| _The race is long and in the end it is only with yourself_
| Overtonwindow wrote:
| Mary Schmich is awesome. I enjoyed her columns in the Chicago
| tribune
| rr888 wrote:
| Ironically wearing sunscreen is advice that isn't always agreed
| by scientists in 2022.
| jessaustin wrote:
| I am a pasty Scots-Irish hillbilly from a long line of same. I
| lived on the equator for years, and have also lived elsewhere
| in the tropics. At all times, I have enjoyed a variety of
| outdoor activities and performed a variety of outdoor tasks. I
| have applied sunscreen perhaps twice as an adult? I wear a hat
| when I think I need to, a shirt when I think I need to, and I
| stand in the shade when it makes sense. I've gotten a mild
| sunburn maybe a half dozen times.
|
| In my late forties, I conclude that the leathery oldsters who
| insist on the sunscreen advice were _crazy_ about sunbathing.
| Don 't be like that, but rubbing random cheaply-acquired
| chemical potions over one's skin on a regular basis also
| doesn't seem wise. The portion of the spectrum that gives us
| skin cancer is not the one that causes sunburns. The primary
| defense against covid infection is vitamin D. Humans lived
| outside for tens of millennia. _This week_ a bunch of this
| sunscreen crap has been recalled for containing _benzene_. Good
| grief.
| kelnos wrote:
| Strange that your experience is so different. I'm light-
| skinned, but by no means pasty. If I'm out walking in the sun
| or doing work outside for a couple hours without sunscreen
| I'll end up burned. Sure, wearing a hat helps, but there's
| always something that gets exposed.
|
| I do know a couple red-haired folks with Irish ancestry and
| very light skin, and they burn even more easily if they don't
| wear sunscreen.
|
| I agree that sunbathing is pretty bad for you, even with
| sunscreen. Unless you are ridiculously fastidious, you are
| always going to miss some spots, and re-apply a bit later
| than you should.
|
| > _rubbing random cheaply-acquired chemical potions over one
| 's skin on a regular basis also doesn't seem wise._
|
| Do you use soap and shampoo? Shaving cream or after-shave?
| Hand cream or another moisturizer? Anything like that? Have
| you examined the ingredients of all those as well, and chosen
| ones that have ingredients you deem safe? If so, there's
| nothing stopping anyone from doing the same with sunscreen;
| it need not be "random" or "cheaply-acquired".
|
| > _Humans lived outside for tens of millennia._
|
| Human skin adapted over millennia based on local conditions.
| It shouldn't be surprising that places with more and stronger
| sun tend to have more native darker-skinned people. We of the
| light skin have outpaced evolution by moving all over the
| globe, including places with strong sun.
|
| Then we have more recent issues like ozone layer damage,
| climate change, etc. Can't really compare today's situation
| with that of a thousand years ago.
|
| > _The primary defense against covid infection is vitamin D._
|
| At best there's a correlation, and it's possible that people
| with a vitamin D _deficiency_ are more susceptible (which
| does _not_ mean that "more vitamin D" meaningfully helps),
| but "primary defense" is an unsupported overstatement.
| mhd wrote:
| I agree, and it's not like the 90s weren't full of unlikely
| novelty hits... Peaches, Blue, How Bizarre, Mambo No. 5 etc.
| littlecranky67 wrote:
| _Do not ready beauty magazines, they will only make you feel
| ugly._
|
| More true than ever in an Instagram world.
| sideshowb wrote:
| "Do not use Strava, it will only make you feel slow"
| fuzzylightbulb wrote:
| "The race is long and, in the end, it's only with yourself"
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| silisili wrote:
| Wow, what a blast from the past. I haven't heard this song in 20
| years, when it was on the radio, and mostly just ignored it then
| - when I was young and powerful, to quote the song.
|
| Hearing it now was oddly relieving. It's like every line
| tells/assures you of things you think about, realize, or worry
| about - suddenly making it all just seem perfectly normal and OK.
| Especially for someone without parents or mentors to give you
| such advice. I guess I was just too young and 'allknowing' to
| relate to it or appreciate it when it came out.
| s_Hogg wrote:
| Played this at my wedding, wonderful song that manages to be
| sentimental but not cheesy
| throwaway98797 wrote:
| but is it good advice?
|
| how can it be tested?
|
| it sounds nice, but i struggle with knowing if it's actually good
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| rel2thr wrote:
| The first of 'meaningwave'! if you like this song I can't
| recommend Akira the Don enough
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